How Will The World End?

[Tulac]

Here's a satyrical view...
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/endofworld.html

But seriously how do you think the world will end(if it will) and when?

[Mentor]

What's your world? What is your definition of "world"?

The way I see it, the Earth will end slowly, just how it started. We'll choke the life out of everything and, when we eventually sap ALL of the natural resources, we'll move on, leaving the Earth a barren wasteland, spread across our galaxy and eventually the universe, continuing on the path we've already chosen.

The universe will end when all that energy eventually goes catatonic and either implodes or explodes on itself.

Besides, a nuclear strike won't end the "world", since the Earth'll still be there. Armageddon used to mean something, but now it's just the religious explanation for whatever may happen.

[Tulac]

Then I'll redefine myself: When(and how) will the human race end?

[Mentor]

Ah. Within the next thousand or so years, and by our own idiocy.

[Tulac]

I think that's quite optimistic...

[Havell]

After I die anyway, probably as a result of all this overpopulation. Overgrazing is already rife as is very intensive farming that removes nutrients form the soil, we will end up with the elite who can get their food from hydroponics centres and suchlike. The downtrodden masses will overthrow them and they will either do a good job of governing the earth, in which case the process will repeat in a few decades time, or they will you a bad job and everyone will stavre. They may be a few people left after this but they will be back in the stone age and will eventually end up in the same place, either that or there will just be tribal wars and that would probably result in exitiction.

[xcom freak]

:roflol: :roflol: i am moving to australia!!

Earth will not end b4 a couple of billions!! that's for sure!

Mentor a thousand years !!!!!!!! come on man be REAL

the earth ve been here for billion of years and beleive me it wont disappear in a thousand!

[JJXB]

The americans will start a nuclear war which will end up destroying the whole world

[Havell]

He was talking about the exictinction of the human race, not the destruction of earth. 1000 years would probably be right, that's the amount of time it would take for the tribal wars to come to a brutal end. But I'll be dead by then so I don't care what happens.

*Goes to do something eco-unfriendly, like pissing in a stream or spraying his garden with pesticide.*

[xcom freak]

Did u c the chinese flag?
:yawn: :yawn: the americans will destroy the whole world how typical !
come on if in the cold war nukes were evaded beleive me no nukes will be used for destroying the world

[Havell]

Yeah, it wasn't, it was the Japanese flag. This may have been intetional, I noticed that the US flag had one star of David instead of 50 stars.

[xcom freak]

Good thing stroggy is not here we would'nt have heard the last of it

[Lizard]

I dont think that mankind will extincint so soon.Not in hundred years and not in thousands.I am great fan of mankind(what is logical becouse I AM human)

[cheesegrater]

The world will end sometime in the next 200 years. Nature will take revenge upon us. Even if the world doesn't end, billions of people will die. Humanity only learns the hard way.

[Sebatianos]

The world will end when our Sun goes Supernova and that's a few billoin years away so don't hold your breath.

But the human kind will end sooner. OK wars may cause a lot of destruction, but I doubt that they could destroy all life. There are creatures that can addopt to just about anything (mostly bugs) and I believe that humans could addopt to just about everything too. Life would get extremely difficoult after a nuclear war, but it wouldn't end (I don't think there will be though). So I wouldn't say that there's gonna be "the end of the world" I'd just quote REM and say: "The end of the eorld as we know it." Life will change and the human race won't be here forever, but we still have a few millenia to look forward to. People have survived many hardships thus far (including a few ice ages), so I think we are capable of surviving, but not our way of life. That one will change radically. No more cars, probably no more electricity, economy would crash and everybody would start doing things for pure survival - no more money or reaching out for more profit. The world will get a bit brutal. :Titan:

[Omuletzu]

Romania will conquer the world and install a reign of terror!! Muhahaha

On the serious side, i think the nuclear ending is getting more and more less likely to occur, because of the recent efforts to diminish the stock of nuclear weapons.The way i see it terrorists are likely to spark off something major.

[Mentor]

Always with the blaming of the "terrorists".

These aren't terrorists. These are soldiers. Not that "War On Terror!" bullshit, just a generic war.

[Stroggy]

Well done Tulac, you built a hive for depressing jerks to post how the humans/the US will destroy the world. How I loathe these people

[Havell]

Small scientific technicality here, the sun is noyt big enough to go supernova, it will either go normal nova, which will probably raise the earth's temperature a few thousand degrees for a day or two. Or it will just fizzle out and the earth will become cold and most probably lifeless. Either way it's nothing to worry about.

[FreeFreddy]

On current theories it will take the sun still many thousands of years before it supposedly will grow to a red giant. At that point the life on the Earth will become impossible, but hey, this is a load of time. ;)

[LordHogFred]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Feb 23 2005, 01:36 PM
On current theories it will take the sun still many thousands of years before it supposedly will grow to a red giant. At that point the life on the Earth will become impossible, but hey, this is a load of time. ;)
I think millions is closer than thousands :bleh:

[Tulac]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Feb 23 2005, 01:15 PM
Well done Tulac, you built a hive for depressing jerks to post how the humans/the US will destroy the world. How I loathe these people
Thanks :angel:

I'd agree with Sebatianos, Fallout anybody?

And I'm quite sure that for how much I dislike the US policy, they won't be the ones causing the end of human race as we know it, there are always at least two sides in conflict, which sides will those be? Who knows will the US even exist or will be the pale shadow of it's former greatness, who knows policy's shift...

[troop18546]

Crap :ranting: . I wanted to do this topic. :cry: Well, seriously the world should end in about 4.9 billion years, but do to the toxic and other muck happening to this world, I should say that it wont last more than 150 years. The Earth's resources wont last more than 50 years and due to wars and other conflicts I'd say it'll be polluted like nothing other from this solar system. Judgeing by the facts described I'd say: THE END IS IN ABOUT 30 YEARS... My advice to all of you:
- Do something youve allways wanted to do, maybe like:
1) Curse on people all day in a shoutbox (my advise taken perhaps).
2) Run around naked (if you like it ofcourse :D ).
3) Whateva...
4) And so on and so on... :ok:

[N17R0]

The world will end when I decide. I am going to launch a massive fleet of neon signs the size of Austrailia into orbit. Everyone will be in awe by the neon glowyness and forget about everything else and starve to death. I mean...no, I'm not an evil genius....

[Dreadlord]

I percieve that one day the universe will implode unto itself and we will all be crushed by the degenarating force of gravity as the big bang reverses itself. Soon after the big bang will once again explode in firey goodness and new life will be spread among the cosmos (insert dramatic music here) :ok: .

[wormpaul]

I think at the end we all blow ourself away from this earth...

Maybe with too many nuclear bombs :help:

[TaloN]

when oil reserves begin to disappear in the next 50-60 years countries wil l go to war for the remainging reserves. the main faction will be china moving toawrds the arab states to take control the oil and so america and nato will be foreced to react. this will be the beggingin of the end. i reckon within 500 years the human race will be no more.

[wormpaul]

only the human races??

I think the animals are dead before we are...(at least the animals bigger then 25 cm/inch)

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by troop18546@Feb 23 2005, 09:27 PM

- Do something youve allways wanted to do, maybe like:
1) Curse on people all day in a shoutbox (my advise taken perhaps).
2) Run around naked (if you like it ofcourse :D ).
3) Whateva...
4) And so on and so on... :ok:
You know about 105-110 years ago people thought exactly the same thing. Its called "la fin-de-si?cle" It gave way to the word 'decadence'.

[quatroking]

if the animals dead, we will dead!
i think that the Ozonray explodes.
(without that, we have no air)








Or aliens!!!

[The_EgAt]

I don't know how the world will end, but according to the Maya(correct plural?), the world is going to end on December 21st, 2012 (Or something)

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

[troop18546]

If they believe that the world will end in 7 years, then their, pardon the expression idiots. <_<

[Sebatianos]

Well, then in eight years you'll be able to send everybody who believed in that this message (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.php). Unless ofcourse they are right. Then you won't be sending anything.

[Mentor]

If they believe that the world will end in 7 years, then their, pardon the expression idiots.

Mayans. The Mayans were a civilization that died out a few hundred years ago. Technically their end of the world already came, but their calander ended in 2012.

YOU are, pardon the expression, an idiot.

[Dreadlord]

The Mayans believe that because of their Calender, it stopped going in the perfect cycle at that year, so they thought instead of their system being flawed, that it must be the end of the world, you must remember, we weren't so smart back then :D .

Mentor ease down, how many people are supposed to know this?

[Mentor]

It's not stupid, it actually makes quite a bit of sense. If you develop a system of counting days, on your own, and suddenly that system goes a little screwy, say in a time a few hunded, or thousand, years in the future, what would be your first thought, especially if you were part of a society that worshiped quite a number of gods that directed your actions?

"Wow... we must have fekked up."

or

"Up, there's the end of the world. Well, let's do the most with what we've got."

[Dreadlord]

Not really, only the insane and mentally challenged would perceive it that way, most likely they would slap their foreheads, scream in frustration, then start a new calender system.

Also you just proved my point.

[Mentor]

In your opinion. But you're not trying to get into the mindset of someone who lives in that kind of society, are you?

The gods created the days, the months, the years. The gods gave you the methods to count those days, months, and years. So if the system went wrong, and the gods are NEVER wrong, then what's the only "logical" answer?

It's not stupidity. It's faith. While they may look similar, in your eyes, they aren't the same.

Besides, are you really calling one of the first civilizations to develop a calander that actually was accurate, save that ONE TIME, stupid? If so, then lets see you make your own wholly accurate measurement of time without any outside influence, and lets see how accurate it is, hmm?

[Dreadlord]

:D That's exactly what I was talking about!

I said the calender was stupid not their faith, shucks.

[N17R0]

The Mayan calendar ended at 2012 simply because they stopped then. You can only go so far until your civilization gets wiped off the planet LOL.

[Dreadlord]

Another way the world will end is that a lone asteroid can smash into the planet earth upsetting it's rotation, causing days to end 5 hours earlier, spinning the earth off it's axis and in 1 million years crashing into the sun.

[FreeFreddy]

Originally posted by troop18546@Feb 24 2005, 06:41 PM
If they believe that the world will end in 7 years, then their, pardon the expression idiots. <_<
Don't call it idiotical because you think it's wrong. You will only know if Mayans and Aztecs were right when the supposed time of the end will begin. Then we'll see for real. :max:

[Lizard]

I vote that nothing happens.There was too much prophecies with world ending recently (1999,2000,2001 and so one) that I would believe in it.

[Tulac]

The ones you can't trust are the Jehova witnesses(or whatever thay're called in English), they've been announcing the world end™ since 1922, so eventually they decided to stop. They're still saying satan's coming on earth soon, how optimistic...

[Dreadlord]

Maybe the world will explode because Abandonia made God angry in the future by turning into a warez site.

[Havell]

Actually, with regard to the Aztec beliefs. They don't think the entire world will end, they think that something catastrophic will happen and only two people will survive (a man and a women, obviously) and they will repopulate the world. They believe that this has already happened four times (with the the destruction and repopulation) and it will carry on in an eternal cycle.

[Danny252]

uh, nice?
the world will end when the US or another supwerpower tries to use a sub-core nuke to nuke another country, but it goes wrong and goes off in the core of the earth. BOOM.

[FreeFreddy]

Originally posted by R Havell@Feb 24 2005, 10:48 PM
Actually, with regard to the Aztec beliefs. They don't think the entire world will end, they think that something catastrophic will happen and only two people will survive (a man and a women, obviously) and they will repopulate the world. They believe that this has already happened four times (with the the destruction and repopulation) and it will carry on in an eternal cycle.
I know exactly what you mean. Yes, it's about time for a new civilization. Ours is going slowly down the waste. But that with the eternal cycle... Doesn't have to be if one of the civilizations will find the right way to live in order.

[The Duck Sick]

*ques sublime - were only goin to die for our own arrogance*

[troop18546]

Originally posted by Mentor@Feb 24 2005, 05:43 PM
If they believe that the world will end in 7 years, then their, pardon the expression idiots.

Mayans. The Mayans were a civilization that died out a few hundred years ago. Technically their end of the world already came, but their calander ended in 2012.

YOU are, pardon the expression, an idiot.
Whoops... :whistle:

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by R Havell@Feb 24 2005, 03:48 PM
Actually, with regard to the Aztec beliefs.* They don't think the entire world will end, they think that something catastrophic will happen and only two people will survive (a man and a women, obviously) and they will repopulate the world.* They believe that this has already happened four times (with the the destruction and repopulation) and it will carry on in an eternal cycle.
I got an e-mail from Kukulcan a week ago that said that I've been chosen to be the man, but they haven't picked a woman yet. The pantheon has been playing double-elimination Connect Four to determine who it will be, and they're down to four players: Kukulcan wants Jennifer Garner, Ah Puch wants Winona Ryder, Ixtab wants Danica McKellar, and Yumil Kaxob wants Giada de Laurentiis. Ixtab almost threw the whole system into the can when she threatened to hang herself - again - after an early loss to Ekchuah, whom she accused of making a double-drop when Ixtab wasn't looking. Kukulcan calmed matters down when he counted the checkers in play, determined that no double-drop was made, and reminded Ixtab that she could still win the tournament from the losers' bracket.

[Sebatianos]

Well at that rate the world is never going to end. Speed it up, you fruity pie you :D

[Strobe]

let me add my view about this topic (which is quite interesting, btw):

in my opinion there are two possible factors causing the end of the world.

either humanity will destroy itself by (nuclear or other) conflicts which get out
of control, either by purpose or by accident...or, and that case seems more
likely to me, a global catastrophy most probably of cosmic nature (e.g. a comet),
strikes down civilization as we know it now.

that implies that the world would not be detroyed totally, but civilization will
be thrown back to a very low state of existance, because crucial structures
defining our actual life, would be demolished to a high degree.

[wormpaul]

So it`s just a circle all the time..

When we became to good the world will throw uss all back for a few thousand years so we can all start again over and over??? :blink:

[quatroking]

Maybe a 2nd Ice-time!
we will freeze in and over thousand year we unfreeze and live further!!!

[wormpaul]

as long 90% of the world dies it`s ok...

We will get a really big push backwards

[troop18546]

WTF? :eeeeeh: 90% world dies its - O.K.?????!!!!!!

[Lizard]

I can imagine many things that could destroy our civilization.Each meteor,dangerous virus,nuclear war atd...Has great chance to destroy it becouse our civilization is very soft,specialized mechanism that can be very light pushed off from balance and destroy.(Who read a book I think it called Day of Trifid in english?(read slovakian translation got the idea)
However I think it would "just" killed majority of worlds human population and throw us few hundreds or thousands years back.Destroying entire mankind with just one disaster is almost impossible...

[troop18546]

Nothings impossible. Especially killing the Earth. One asteroid und kaput. :whistle:

[Lizard]

One very HUGE asteroid and Earth is kaputt.One small asteroid and civilization is kaputt.

[Fawfulhasfury]

When planet x flys by, its immense gravitational force will not only pull the earth out of its orbit, causing earthquakes, volcanoes, the ring of fire to erupt, and a ton of other stuff, but the asteroids and comets being pulled in planet x's orbit will collide with earth and cause devastating damage to the world. Radiation will poison the water, and so on and so forth. Sounds fun, huh. :w00t:

[troop18546]

Man, youre really from Oddworld... :whistle:

[Lizard]

Originally posted by troop18546@Feb 26 2005, 08:57 PM
Man, youre really from Oddworld... :whistle:
No he is bringer of Cosmic disorder.He is supposed to have fun from events like end of world... :whistle:

[troop18546]

Well, I too would like to see the world be destroyed part by part but, geeeez... :whistle:

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by troop18546@Feb 26 2005, 08:00 PM
Well, I too would like to see the world be destroyed part by part but, geeeez... :whistle:
then is the problem..

Wich part first...

I defitnaly vote for: America :bleh:

[troop18546]

I vote Russia.
The one country that had litteraly F**KED my country 50 years or more back and made it a very unpleasant place to be. The jerks F**KED up everything they could get their F**KING hands on. Those F**KERS! :ranting:

:rifle: Russia.

[wormpaul]

They Fu*ked with Scorpion`s lair??? :blink:

[troop18546]

My country is Lithuania. Scorpion's lair is my home. :D

[Fawfulhasfury]

I choose that the u.n. be destroyed first. :evil:

[troop18546]

Who's U.N.? :blink: The united nations? If they are then which countries belong to U.N.?

[Fawfulhasfury]

I meant the U.N. leaders.

[troop18546]

I'm not very in to the Earth's life right now so, could you give a hint who of the leaders should die first?

[Fawfulhasfury]

...I dunno. Any of them. But anyway, lets get back on topic plz.

[troop18546]

O.K. I think the end is near, but I dont care. :ok:
We can always go to Mars. I would want to suffer there like in Doom3. :D

[quatroking]

yeah, i have seen that in the simpsons show. year 2000 begins and everything don't work.
Homer and that kid go's into a rocket too the sun and jumps out the rocket.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Fawfulhasfury@Feb 26 2005, 10:32 PM
I meant the U.N. leaders.
And if they are killed of, there really would be no more institutions to keep the US checked by legal means, and thus the Earth would really be likely to end - think pollution, think stink...

[Ioncannon]

LOL the same guy made so FFXI parody flashes. You might not get some of the stuff you hear if you do not play FFXI, but I can explain if you want.

http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep01.htm
http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep02.htm
http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep03.htm

I think number 3 is the most funny.

[Lizard]

Originally posted by Ioncannon@Feb 27 2005, 04:03 PM
LOL the same guy made so FFXI parody flashes. You might not get some of the stuff you hear if you do not play FFXI, but I can explain if you want.

http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep01.htm
http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep02.htm
http://www.fluidweb.net/ffxi_ep03.htm

I think number 3 is the most funny.
:eeeeeh: Those guys are absolutly sick...
But this is :ot:

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Feb 27 2005, 02:56 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Feb 27 2005, 02:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Fawfulhasfury@Feb 26 2005, 10:32 PM
I meant the U.N. leaders.
And if they are killed of, there really would be no more institutions to keep the US checked by legal means, and thus the Earth would really be likely to end - think pollution, think stink... [/b][/quote]
And there would be nobody to ignore the genocide in Darfur either :cry:

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Feb 27 2005, 06:19 PM
And there would be nobody to ignore the genocide in Darfur either :cry:
Well... Yes, the UN isn't a perfect organization (in fact it's fairly useless), but it seems like it's the only international organization, that has at least some weight on the certain decisions some superpowers (or should I use the singular?) make.

[xcom freak]

What about the armenian genocide !! it happened 90 years ago and still its not recognized :ranting: :ranting:
Sebastianos how can the UN oppose US when 90% of its funding come from the US?

[Sebatianos]

IT can't oppose it. But if any country opposes it... Well do you like them Liberty Fries? And is you're french teacher a liberty teacher now???
If the UN says something it's atleast listened to (even if it has no effect).

About the Armenian genocide... Well many cruel and sinister things have happened in the past (especially during the wars, right after them, during rebellions, revolutions, peace-keeping actions, feild exercised, protection of the civilized people...). Sorry to say, but it's not likely that you'll ever see an official statemant saying that genocide happened there and then (it's like expecting a statemant from the US government to admit that they practiced ethnical cleansing when they were pushing the fronteer further to the west).

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Feb 27 2005, 06:13 PM
but it seems like it's the only international organization, that has at least some weight on the certain decisions some superpowers (or should I use the singular?) make.
Before it tackles the US with its bravura they should first show their worth in other parts of the world. In the last few years and months the UN has shown it is a big slow apparatus with no power. Its incompetence is matched only by its corruptness.
It is a political laughingstock. Tell me, who is a prominent member of the UN security council? Syria. Syria, an occupational power (though only now does Mr. Kofi dare to speak up a wee bit.). Syria, intent on throwing the fragile ceasefire in the middle-east back off track. How can the UN possibly be effective if these are the people its composed of? Why should the US even care what the UN has to say?

Its an organization run by countries with severe ego-problems. Butros Butros Gali, Kofi Annan, who is next? Some disease-ridden Ethiopian?

I don't understand how anybody can stand up for the UN this day and age. They said Bush went to war so that he could take the oil, fair enough, but the main reason the UN didn't want war was so that they could keep their corrupt little Oil-for-food program running with Saddam.

UN, it just shows how corruption can cripple even the most noble of causes.

[xcom freak]

Stroggy even though our countries are technicaly still at war and even though i think Palestine is a country.I really agree with you on this one. :D

Syria is really messing things up in the middle east and Syria rejected that UN sends international investigators to the elections.UN just didnt react to that.
Bush and Chirac however are pressuring and threatening the syrian government
and i am sure these measures will lead to great improvements in the area.
Its true that americans are ignoring the UN but UN just dont have any Cojones and without Cojones the world will never improve.And everytime Russia oe China want something the US vetos and when The US wants something Russia and CHina Vetos just for spite so the Un isn't going anywhere!

[troop18546]

Hey, ever thought of going to politics? :eeeeeh:

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by xcom freak@Feb 27 2005, 07:33 PM
Stroggy even though our countries are technicaly still at war
Belgium is at war with Canada?

[xcom freak]

LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yeah from this morning but Belgium lost so fast that no one noticed the war happening CANADA rules.

I am talking origins,i am originaly Lebanese and with all the blue and the symbols i thought that u were from Israel.

[Tulac]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Feb 27 2005, 08:26 PM
Its an organization run by countries with severe ego-problems. Butros Butros Gali, Kofi Annan, who is next? Some disease-ridden Ethiopian?


Yes it must be run by righteous and brave US...
Ohh the hipocracy...

[xcom freak]

AH!!!

Try to understand the meaning b4 throwing words out.
If a weak country's representative is to be like KOfi annan his word wouldn't be strong enough to oppose The US/other countries.If the representative is Chinese/german/french/russian/american it will give back THe UN its past glory!
And stop with the american hating logics its really getting typical and not really productive.

[FreeFreddy]

What does this all have to do with the end of the world? :eeeeeh:

[xcom freak]

Good question I don't know !i am just answering previos posts!!

I think people relate end of the world to UN not capable to stop US.or US blowing the whole world :yawn:

[Tulac]

Originally posted by xcom freak@Feb 27 2005, 09:17 PM
Chinese/german/french/russian/american it will give back THe UN its past glory!

Why, why can't the rest of world be important why can't an Ethiopian, Croatian or whoever be a secretary of UN,and make it powerful, it depended's on what kind of person you are and not where your from, therefore your post is very hipocrate, as it makes some nations less 'valuable', it's United Nations, not Opressing Nations!!!

And yup this is completely OT, but I couldn't resist posting...

[xcom freak]

Originally posted by Tulac+Feb 27 2005, 08:23 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tulac @ Feb 27 2005, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-xcom freak@Feb 27 2005, 09:17 PM
Chinese/german/french/russian/american it will give back THe UN its past glory!

Why, why can't the rest of world be important why can't an Ethiopian, Croatian or whoever be a secretary of UN,and make it powerful, it depended's on what kind of person you are and not where your from, therefore your post is very hipocrate, as it makes some nations less 'valuable', it's United Nations, not Opressing Nations!!!

And yup this is completely OT, but I couldn't resist posting... [/b][/quote]
i am sorry its really a shame but that's how the world works .
If kofi annan was russian he wouldve had the support of his country but hes not so Russia can feel free to not support Kofi annan.He has the support of his country which is not as powerful as the others.Thats just how life is.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Tulac+Feb 27 2005, 08:13 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tulac @ Feb 27 2005, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Stroggy@Feb 27 2005, 08:26 PM
Its an organization run by countries with severe ego-problems. Butros Butros Gali, Kofi Annan, who is next? Some disease-ridden Ethiopian?


Yes it must be run by righteous and brave US...
[/b][/quote]
I did not say it should be the US, you should read my statements before calling me a hypocrite. I meant a respected country like Germany or canada should preside over it, not people from countries where corruption is a major in university (or what passes there as a university)

[Tulac]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Feb 27 2005, 11:21 PM
I did not say it should be the US, you should read my statements before calling me a hypocrite. I meant a respected country like Germany or canada should preside over it, not people from countries where corruption is a major in university (or what passes there as a university)
I know what you were implying, and now in your words I can feel your disgust of 'lesser' nations. You underestimate these countries while it was these 'great' countries that used, manipulated and caused the corruption anyway...

[Stroggy]

Actually it was Kofi Annan's son (and probably mr Kofi aswell)

[quatroking]

3 legs,
3 eyes,
2 arms,
4 rare tentacles,
and two holes.
the perfect alien that takes over the world!

[Maerlyn]

When i decide ive had enough of it.

[Tulac]

No, then the world will end for you...

[Yobor]

I think that everone has his/her own world, and the only way the world can truly end is if everone loser their imagination.

[Dreadlord]

Or if they just die :blink: .

[Strobe]

yes yobor, i think you've made a good point! but in the end our imagination is
limited by our physical existance...like dreadlord said.

however, as long as we're alive, we should keep our spririts and the "phantastic
worlds" which are created within alive. sadly, many people seem to be mentally
dead in our modern time. media and the like takes away our own responsibility
of dreaming, which is crucial for a fulfilled life, imo.

if we manage to uphold the realm within us, we're kind of inhabitants of a world
that can really only be destroyed, if our body is destroyed!

[Lizard]

Originally posted by Strobe@Mar 1 2005, 10:53 PM
yes yobor, i think you've made a good point! but in the end our imagination is
limited by our physical existance...like dreadlord said.

however, as long as we're alive, we should keep our spririts and the "phantastic
worlds" which are created within alive. sadly, many people seem to be mentally
dead in our modern time. media and the like takes away our own responsibility
of dreaming, which is crucial for a fulfilled life, imo.

if we manage to uphold the realm within us, we're kind of inhabitants of a world
that can really only be destroyed, if our body is destroyed!
So that mean that end of our mental world has already began? :blink:

[Tulac]

Now that's what I call a speech Strobe! :claps:

Creativity is what makes the progress...

[Dreadlord]

Not really, although many have gone under, some people have gone into a state of creativity, usually they are considered "weird" or "hyperactive", but it's this creative process that really makes them more of a independent and curious breed, a la the fact that they indulge in everything, not following a mere sociatal status...

[Lizard]

Unfortunetly that makes them a little weird,and they often arent accepted in society...
Btw Dreadlord you are really storming here :D

[Dreadlord]

Eh? What's that supposed to mean? (Really, I don't understand.)

It wouldn't really be the end of the world, if you read books like Farheneight 451, you get a sense, that we have no independent formalities, we're controlled by the higher ups, they're holding us back so we won't think for ourselves, they'll do it for us.

[Lizard]

Originally posted by Dreadlord@Mar 1 2005, 11:02 PM
Eh? What's that supposed to mean? (Really, I don't understand.)

It wouldn't really be the end of the world, if you read books like Farheneight 451, you get a sense, that we have no independent formalities, we're controlled by the higher ups, they're holding us back so we won't think for ourselves, they'll do it for us.
Well you have 65 posts today... :blink:
How will be a human diferent from robot,or zombie then?If we surrender our mental worlds we would be more or less just living machine.(interesting how I changed from they to we :whistle: )

[Dreadlord]

Oh I don't really care about how many posts I have, I never look :D .
Sorry, is that too much?

But yeah, we'll just be something they can control, their own little sandbox.

[Lizard]

No actually not...
I had even more posts once... :whistle:

[Dreadlord]

Amazing, how many?

:D The world will end when everyone has become zombies.

[Lizard]

Well there will be "always" someone who will be a leader...So infact the world wouldnt end becouse there will be a privileged group of people who will be in lead and "keep the world turning".It will end for those who was too unfortunate and become a zombie...
I wont say :D

[Dreadlord]

The world would have ended because it is now only HIS/HER world, there is no world in terms of a connectively active human power.

Is it just me or does this conversation sound like something that could be in Planescape: Torment?

[Lizard]

It would be interesting when in this theoretical situation the leader dies.Would that force some zombies to began to think again?

[Dreadlord]

My theory is that they would lose their sense of purpose and live out basic life functions, in term, we would become like animals, with no other features to distinguish us.

[Lizard]

I am more optimistic.I think some of them will regain it and well as usuall,probably become a new leaders :(

[Dreadlord]

They will eventually regain it, but after a period of thousands of years or so, because as the line goes down we will eventually become more curious and intelligent, just as the world is going right now.

[Yobor]

The Zombies would probably revert to natural instinct, but the first generation zombies might all die out (their instincts having been erased)

[Lizard]

Maybe a lot sooner.When you live in wilderness with animals you MUST have some level of curiosity or intelligence,or you just wont survive...

[Dreadlord]

I said natural functions, one of those is survival, everything in the world is based on survival.

[Lizard]

Yes but humans dont have abilities that are needed to survive in wilderness without tools.And to make tools you definetly need some inteligence...So they all just die or they will be forced to regain their intelligence

[Dreadlord]

But we need to realize that there are humans all over the world, some are in friendlier locations, like a deserted island, with few dangerous creatures.

[Yobor]

Nowadays, things may not be based on survival. If someone is saved by surgery from an inherent genetic defect, then they have defeated the purpose of natural selection and survival.

[Lizard]

They will still need to find something to food.I dont mean tolls to defense but for hunting.Humans cant catch anything without tools or knowledge how to do it.And the both ways need some cunning.

[Dreadlord]

Ah, but surgery is for survival, that deffect might have deterred survival, therefore they may have removed it for survival, or there are different terms of survival, social survival, beauty survival, go crazy.

[Yobor]

However, genetically, the defect is still there and will be passed on to the offspring, hindering the human race as a whole to support this defect. Many things no a days are deterrent to human survival. Obesity is being toned down by some groups when it should be brought up into the limelight. The fatness of people is a major problem that needs to be dealt with. If people get fat in that new society, where does that leave them? Starving to death, or falling in a hole, or not outrunning prey.

[bohor]

The world will end, and if by that you mean the end of human civilisation, when another 10 km meteor strikes the earth!

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I think I'd rather not think about it. :ph34r:

[marko river]

Like Seb said, no disasster will manage to destroy mankind. Dinos didn't disappeared when comet hit the Earth, nor the mankind when "Atlantida" exploded.

Well, dinosaurusses died when precenage of oxygen in the air was to low. 60 millions years ago, precentage of oxygen was over 80% !!!!!!! In the future, this will be lowered more quickly since we cut the woods (especially in Brazil), but it is long time ahead. Now, just because somethign is long time ahead doesn't mean we don't need to bother. Millwall was never to won FA cup and they reached the finals few years ago. Yes people, what are we gonna do when this happens. Return into the water???

Well, we have bigger problems in next few decades. Global warming is too dangerous now. Ice on the north pole has melted for 35% in last decades and temperature is growing. When i was like 5, they sad that every years temperature is raising for hal degree. When i was 14, it was raising whole degree. Now i'm 23 and it's still raising. I think Holland has big problem with water level growing, which is caused with this global warming, but soon whole world will have this problem, since 80% of human race lives on coast (which is 50km to the sea).

Now, something less known. Some Serbian astrologyst, i don;t know his name, apparently explained existance of ice-age using the moving of Earth's rotating axis. He also made the best calendar, but Orthodox church refused it.
Well it seems that our mother Earth is always in the ice-age, with short springs from time to time. Want to know why man lived in caves for 2 millions years and established civilization 5000 years ago??? Well, this becomes logical. Spring came and Earth stated to warm, first civilizations were found in warmest parts of the Earth, and later more civilizations appeared. No aliens and other X-files crap.
According to him, those (this) springs last 10-15 thousands of years. Since 5000 years already passed, it is not hard to calculate how much time we have. And when ice-age come, we don't have much choice but to abandon surface of the Earth, either we go to other planet or beneath the surface and hope that there will be enough food (plants and animals) for everybody, which is more then optimistic.

We have major problem burning right now, what are we gonna do in 20 years when temperature during summer are 60 degrees Celzius, and when we start building walls on the coasts or simply move entire cities away from the sea. But, if ice-age comes, all this will be no more a problem. -60 degrees during the summer will!!!!

One more thing, my professor of astrology told me that this guy explained why it is always ice-age and that his theory has been accepted considering his explanations and proofs. So, is it just a fairy tail then?

[TheSmyth]

With the way technology is advancing at the moment, it's more of a race between stuff that could make us immortal and stuff that could wipe us out.
But the chances of the human race being wiped out has got to be pretty slim. Yeah, society may be wiped out, and things may change, but humans have continued to evolve, and are evolving even now.
Look how quickly a baby can learn to work a VCR / DVD player, our brains are bigger now than they have ever been, every generation people get taller, every generation people get physically stronger.

Even if we did have a nuclear holocaust, an ice age or whatever some groups, somewhere would survive, and continue to evolve. We've managed it every time before. If all of our distant ancestors hadn't found someway of adapting to whatever got thrown at them, we would never have evolved into humans in the first place.

:whistle: "Every generation, blames the one before, and all of their frustrations come beating on your door. I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father held so dear, i know that i'm a hostage to all his hopes and fears.." :whistle:

[MasterGrazzt]

There are three possible scenarios.

Number one is that Great Cthulhu shall rise, and with many of the other Great Old Ones, reave the Earth of humanity, devouring their flesh, destroying their dreams, IA! IA IA ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! GREAT AND GLORIOUS CTHULHU!

Number two is that Galactus shall break his treaty with his former herald the Silver Surfer, his agreement with Reed Richards, and literally suck the life out of our poor planet, reducing it to cinders. I dread the day the Devourer of Worlds once more turns his attention to our little jewel of a planet.

Number three is that a colony of nanotech robots go berserk and cover the planet, endlessly reproducing, until they have cannibalized everything that has mineral value.

[GraveDigger]

I don't know the exact day/date, but if it doesn't occur by next presidency elections then we have a chance to live in peace.

[Sebatianos]

:w00t: Here's an idea.
The world will end, because an :adminpower: / :modpower: would close it due to :SPAM:
:whistle:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

There is no such thing as peace. It is a myth.

Seb was that a subtle hint to get someone to close the thread. :whistle:

[Sebatianos]

Wasn't meant as a hint... Let's say it's more of a prophecy. :sneaky:

And about peace... It is real, just not natural. I want there to be peace, unfortunately it was always just a period between wars. A period in which people gathered their strength and prepared for another venture against someone.

[bohor]

All dinos died when the comet hit! That's a fact!!

[troop18546]

I sure wish it wouldnt have hit them...

[Iron_Scarecrow]

But then we'd be a hunted species. Or we probably wouldn't even exist.

[Sebatianos]

Oh you guys... Just play a game of Sim Earth and you'll see what would if it could and not how it should... :eeeeeh:

[marko river]

Originally posted by bohor@Mar 4 2005, 03:46 PM
All dinos died when the comet hit! That's a fact!!
Nope, most oh them died, but they continued to live even after. They found dinos that died much after comet. Besides, if they died because of comet, how come other animals survived? Birds managed to increase their population much after comet, but when oxygen was low enough.

[Lizard]

Yup,crocodiles and some others "dinos" survived.The other dinos died mainly becouse they couldnt adapt new enviroment...The mammals (and also humans) can live almost everywhere on earth,if there is enought food.Dinosuars cant.They were just too inflexible...

[Sebatianos]

About the dinosaurs...
It's the huge land dweling plant eaters that disapeared. Also their hunters vanished because of the lack of food. So no more big dinos there. Othjers have survived. Just look at a crocodile or a turtle. Both have been around in the time of dinos, but they are now slightly modified. Other disno evolved into birds! So every time you look at a pigeon you should know it's nothing less then a grand-grand-...-grandson of a dino.
Other animals have disapeared too I was really surprised when I saw a documentary about the skeleton of a guinea pig. Just before the first of the seven ice ages there lived guinea pigs in Venezuela that weight 700 kilos and were 2 metres tall. To make a comparison - that's about the size of a cow, that would have longer front legs and would therefor be taller in front.

[xcom freak]

2 factors for Dino disappearance :

Volcanic activity in India and the comet in Mexico .
These two factors crated a harsh environement for survival and species quickly started disappearing.

The comet didnt come and directly killed everybody thats just a common error.
the atmosphere suffered and species that rely on it a lot died.
small mammals survived coz the oxigen was lighter than the fumes and they could breathe easily.

[Lizard]

I think there are more "well-documented and proven" dino disapeppearance theories than mice in a granary...We could spend VERY long time arguing about them.The only fact is-Ther dinosaurs lived in the past and now there dont. :bleh:

[xcom freak]

Originally posted by Lizard@Mar 4 2005, 09:27 PM
I think there are more "well-documented and proven" dino disapeppearance theories than mice in a granary...We could spend VERY long time arguing about them.The only fact is-Ther dinosaurs lived in the past and now there dont. :bleh:
No my friend the comet is a fact its been dated to the time just b4 their disappearnce and the Volcanic activity also there isnt any debate to be done .

[BUFFY]

I read a book (fiction) about the future...

It told of humans finding a higher "plane" and leaving Earth to another dimension I guess you could call it... it wasn't spirituality but a developing of the brain...

Another human had left earth then somehow travelled into the future to find Earth alone bar the technology which consisted of a database with computer personalities and histroical recordings, this is how he found out why Earth was empty.

I not saying this is more logical then a coment, nuke, orbital shift, or ice age, but how can you prepare for any ending of the race if you have so many possibilities.


P.S I'd love to have a bomb shelter with bio life! :ok:

[troop18546]

The dinasaurs roamed the earth millions of years and that MF comet or etc. had to ruin everything, the world wouldnt be polluted or damaged in anyway by those creatures, unlike us - humans. Saying that were the BETTER species isnt right, we caused a muck of the Earth in 400 years or so while the dinosaurs kept it for millions of years natural. :whistle:

[Fawfulhasfury]

I agree with troop there. We are hazardous to our own health. But who cares. Its chaos right. Wheee. I bet that this topic will now get closed in no time.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

There's no point whinging over it, there's nothing you can do.

[BeefontheBone]

Originally posted by troop18546@Mar 5 2005, 06:54 PM
The dinasaurs roamed the earth millions of years and that MF comet or etc. had to ruin everything, the world wouldnt be polluted or damaged in anyway by those creatures, unlike us - humans. Saying that were the BETTER species isnt right, we caused a muck of the Earth in 400 years or so while the dinosaurs kept it for millions of years natural. :whistle:
Yes, except that it was 65 million years ago, during which time there would have evolved new species. Probably not humans though, since mammals needed the extinction of the dinosaurs to evolve larger than about a foot long.

Read Richard Dawkins' amazing book The Ancestor's Tale for a brilliant treatment of the history of evolution.