Hyper 3D Pinball won't "install" or run

[pollyisagoodbird]

I recently downloaded Hyper 3D Pinball for D-Fend Reloaded. I got it here:

http://www.myabandonware.com/game/hyper-3-d-pinball-2tf

When I run the program, the installation screen for the game pops up, telling me how much RAM and disk space I have and such. I get to a screen asking me if I want to install in-game animations to my hard disk. I give my answer, hit "Enter" to accept, and the screen goes black and the program closes. I have images inserted to show what I'm dealing with. I'm playing in full-screen mode.

This is my first time trying out DOS emulation, so I don't know if I'm forgetting to do something.

[Smiling Spectre]

Did you tried DOSBox? (First, obvious, question ;)

[pollyisagoodbird]

Did you tried DOSBox? (First, obvious, question ;)
D-Fend Reloaded comes with and works with DOSBox. It does all of the dirty work.

[The Fifth Horseman]

You see, 80% of the time when a frontend user comes to us with a problem, the cause turns out to be the frontend. The other 20% its turns out to be an assumption that a frontend is magic pixie dust that will make every game run perfectly.

In this case, your frontend hides from you several important error messages.
That copy of the game is borked beyond repair as far as I can tell.

[Smiling Spectre]

You see, 80% of the time when a frontend user comes to us with a problem, the cause turns out to be the frontend.
Umm... Sorry, pollyisagoodbird this is exactly what I wanted to say. "Did you tried pure DOSBox, without frontends".

But yes, game looks heavy broken for me, and I wasn't able even get your "no CD" message.

This version (http://www.kmzpub.ru/games.asp?Stat=dl&idg=1134) works quite good for me. Try it?

[pollyisagoodbird]

Umm... Sorry, pollyisagoodbird this is exactly what I wanted to say. "Did you tried pure DOSBox, without frontends".

But yes, game looks heavy broken for me, and I wasn't able even get your "no CD" message.

This version (http://www.kmzpub.ru/games.asp?Stat=dl&idg=1134) works quite good for me. Try it?

Okay, here's what I've done so far:
I downloaded the other version of Hyper 3D Pinball and extracted both of them into separate folders on my C drive. I then mounted the C drive and the directory where both folders are kept. I then did uvconfig.exe for the version of the game I downloaded today and it set DOSBox up. Then I input runcd.exe, and it prompts me to input 3DPINBALL. I do so, and it gives me an error message telling me that it could not install UNIVBE.exe. I get the same message with the version of the game I downloaded a few days ago.

[Smiling Spectre]

Was it version from link that I gave you?

Actually, you need only two things with it: extract game into hpinball dir, and mount dir from one level above (i.e. dir "hpinball" must exist on virtual C". After that running 3dpinball.bat worked just fine for me. But let me try to reproduce...

...Aha, I see the problem now. :)

See, command line parameter to runcd is game dir. If dir is wrong - game will not work. In your case you installed game into PIN dir, but trying to start it from hpinball dir. Either change "..\hpinball" string to "..\pin" in the bat-file, or rename "PIN" to expected "HPINBALL". :)

[pollyisagoodbird]

Was it version from link that I gave you?

Actually, you need only two things with it: extract game into hpinball dir, and mount dir from one level above (i.e. dir "hpinball" must exist on virtual C". After that running 3dpinball.bat worked just fine for me. But let me try to reproduce...

...Aha, I see the problem now. :)

See, command line parameter to runcd is game dir. If dir is wrong - game will not work. In your case you installed game into PIN dir, but trying to start it from hpinball dir. Either change "..\hpinball" string to "..\pin" in the bat-file, or rename "PIN" to expected "HPINBALL". :)

I renamed the directory and it worked! Thanks!

[IAmAGuest]

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a questions of my own.

I've got to the point where Hyper 3D Pinball at least TRIES to run - that is, it actually seems like it starts, but then immediately exits with no error. I suspect it can't initialise the video mode and my modern Geforce 960 card does not support the mode the game is trying to use. I've tried a number of combinations in the uvconfig.exe file but haven't found anything that works.

Are there any solutions for this, or do I just need to accept that this is a game that just won't run on my hardware?

[Smiling Spectre]

I've got to the point where Hyper 3D Pinball at least TRIES to run - that is, it actually seems like it starts, but then immediately exits with no error. I suspect it can't initialise the video mode and my modern Geforce 960 card does not support the mode the game is trying to use.
Wrong answer. :)

This game is DOS. So no use to try to start it under modern Windows.

Use DOSBox, as described above, and everything will be fine.

[IAmAGuest]

Wrong answer. :)

This game is DOS. So no use to try to start it under modern Windows.

Use DOSBox, as described above, and everything will be fine.

Sorry mate, I should have been more specific. I *AM* using DOSBox.

I've got to the point where if I execute the command, the game will try to start - that is, the screen res changes, but then it immediately exits. I'm suspecting it just can't recognise my modern GeForce card and can't set a video mode properly.

[Smiling Spectre]

It cannot be the reason. DOSBox is emulator - it doesn't use video (or anything) "as is", but emulate VGA or something.

So there could be 3 reasons.

1. Something wrong with the game itself. Did you try to re-download it?

2. Something wrong with the game settings. Try to change it, if you can.

3. Something wrong with the DOSBox settings. Check .conf file with text editor, and pay attention to "machine=" setting. It must be one of SVGA modes (svga_s3 is most compatible, and default, I believe).

If nothing will work for you, I'll check the game myself. At home. :)

[Smiling Spectre]

It cannot be the reason. DOSBox is emulator - it doesn't use video (or anything) "as is", but emulate VGA or something. Well, theoretically speaking, it can be non-compatible with your video drivers (even if I never heard of it), but in this case DOSBox itself wouldn't work, not game.

So there could be 3 reasons.

1. Something wrong with the game itself. Did you try to re-download it?

2. Something wrong with the game settings. Try to change it, if you can.

3. Something wrong with the DOSBox settings. Check .conf file with text editor, and pay attention to "machine=" setting. It must be one of SVGA modes (svga_s3 is most compatible, and default, I believe).

If nothing will work for you, I'll check the game myself. At home. :)

[IAmAGuest]

It cannot be the reason. DOSBox is emulator - it doesn't use video (or anything) "as is", but emulate VGA or something. Well, theoretically speaking, it can be non-compatible with your video drivers (even if I never heard of it), but in this case DOSBox itself wouldn't work, not game.

So there could be 3 reasons.

1. Something wrong with the game itself. Did you try to re-download it?

2. Something wrong with the game settings. Try to change it, if you can.

3. Something wrong with the DOSBox settings. Check .conf file with text editor, and pay attention to "machine=" setting. It must be one of SVGA modes (svga_s3 is most compatible, and default, I believe).

If nothing will work for you, I'll check the game myself. At home. :)

1. Yes, redownloaded it. No dice.

2. Tried every game setting, no luck (the sound and video applications work, but the game istelf doesn't).

3. DOSBox is set to svga_s3. It also has no problems playing any other games.

It's just not working. Exits out with no error when executing the command. It's genuinely trying to start but fails. Tried everything I can think of.

[Smiling Spectre]

Checked. Ah, great. It's a dirty rip, without lots of everything, cracked and assuming that game is in d:/3dp. (ANd maybe it expect to be CD too).

Anyway, doesn't work for me even in that case.

Recommendations: kill it with fire and found normal, full CD-version. (see PM :)

Ah, wait, you are not registered, so no any PMs. :|

Anyway, you need ISO, and it googled easily. Checked it, worked flawless on the DOSBox 0.74.