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Ottopartz460
29-01-2014, 03:09 PM
I got Test Drive working on MSDOS Box. My issue is that you can't accelerate and turn at the same time. When you hold down the up button to accelerate, it does so, but the instant you press the left or right key, it interrupts the up key. I don't remember it originally being that way (of course, it was 1987 and I was seven years old, so...).

Ottopartz460
29-01-2014, 03:12 PM
I got Test Drive working on MSDOS Box. My issue is that you can't accelerate and turn at the same time. When you hold down the up button to accelerate, it does so, but the instant you press the left or right key, it interrupts the up key. I don't remember it originally being that way (of course, it was 1987 and I was seven years old, so...).

Do I have to put in MOUNT C C:\Oldgames every time? Isn't there a way that it can automatically mount that folder as the C drive?

And finally, what games NEED to be played on MSDOS Box? Like, I know Test Drive needs it, but what about Doom? Duke Nukem 3d?

Japo
29-01-2014, 07:16 PM
Try changing the keys assigned to the gas and turning. Different keyboards have different combinations of keys that don't work at once.

Isn't there a way that it can automatically mount that folder as the C drive?
There are several. You have a choice of tutorials in the "Tutorials" subforum, plus two sticky posts on this main board, plus all those frontend programs for DOSBox.

And finally, what games NEED to be played on MSDOS Box?
It's called DOSBox, not MSDOS Box. Games for (MS-)DOS are best run with it--games for Windows not (in principle).

what about Doom? Duke Nukem 3d?
Yes and yes, because they were made for DOS. At least for Doom there are also many Windows ports, including an old one from Microsoft.

Ottopartz460
30-01-2014, 03:31 PM
Try changing the keys assigned to the gas and turning. Different keyboards have different combinations of keys that don't work at once.


There are several. You have a choice of tutorials in the "Tutorials" subforum, plus two sticky posts on this main board, plus all those frontend programs for DOSBox.


It's called DOSBox, not MSDOS Box. Games for (MS-)DOS are best run with it--games for Windows not (in principle).


Yes and yes, because they were made for DOS. At least for Doom there are also many Windows ports, including an old one from Microsoft.


Thanks. I'll check them out. Also, I downloaded "Car Builder" and every time I try to save something, it says "Disk Full". Am I unable to save stuff using DOSbox?

Finally, on Test Drive, when I try to run it with EGA 16 colors, it asks me to insert a disk. Since I don't have a disk, what do I do?

Japo
30-01-2014, 05:05 PM
Thanks. I'll check them out. Also, I downloaded "Car Builder" and every time I try to save something, it says "Disk Full". Am I unable to save stuff using DOSbox?
Yes :-) But in case of these problems, add this parameter to the mount command:
mount C C:\Oldgames -freesize 100
for example to indicate that your virtual C drive in DOSBox should report having 100 MB free. Most games don't check for available space beforehand and they do fine. In case they do you have to do this. It may be a good thing to include it in your automatic mount when you have one.

Finally, on Test Drive, when I try to run it with EGA 16 colors, it asks me to insert a disk. Since I don't have a disk, what do I do?
That really depend on the game. Often it's a reaction to not finding a file that may be missing. In other cases very old games didn't fit in one disk and so were designed to deal with this, but when you mount a folder on your modern hard disk that includes all files at once, sometimes it's enough just to press the key, as if you had switched disks in the same drive, and the game will look again and find the file that was supposed to be on another physical disk.

Ottopartz460
04-02-2014, 03:50 AM
Thanks, you've been a big help.

I DO have another set of problems I've been running into. Now, have some patience with me since it's been about ten years since I've fired up this game, and at the time, there was no real way to go multiplayer (well, there probably was, but nobody told me.)

I'm trying to play Duke Nukem 3D as a multiplayer game between my to computers. My desktop is a Dell with Windows XP and my laptop is an HP with Windows 7. I have ATT UVerse, so I have the two computers wired to the router with ethernet cables. I tried connecting the two computers directly to each other. On the back of the desktop, there's a serial connect (multiple pins with the screws on each side, I assume thats what you call a serial cable) that is light blue in color and the icon above where it plugs into (right above the printer cable of the same type of cable) is "IOIIOI" but flipped on it's side. There's a cable that comes out of there, but the other end is an ethernet cable (I assume that's what you call it, it's like the male end of a phone jack but bigger). So, I even tried connecting that to my laptop's port. Same results, no connection.

I set the desktop as a "host" and typed "serial1=nullmodem port: 12345" and set ipx=true.

Then on the "slave" computer or "guest" (I guess Guest would be a better term, I'm thinking it terms of hydraulics. :) ) I typed "serial1=nullmodem server: ***:***:**:*** port 12345. (I actually typed in the numbers for my IP address (I googled "What's my IP Address") instead of the asterisks).

I started dosbox on the host computer and in the C:\ (since I have it MOUNT automatically), I put in "ipxnet startserver 12345" and hit enter. it says

"IPX tunneling utility for DOSBOX

IPX tunneling server started"

On the guest computer, after I fire up dosbox and after it mounts itself to c:\ I type

"ipxnet connect ***:***:**:*** 12345" and it replies

"IPX tunneling utility for DosBox

IPX Tunneling failed to connect" somethingerother... Either way, it said it isn't connected.

What am I doing wrong? Is connecting the two computers through ethernet cables even a viable option? what about through the ATT router?

Help me out. My ultimate goal is to paly Duke Nukem 3D or Doom, Doom II, whatever between two different computers in the same room.

dosraider
04-02-2014, 05:03 AM
All you need to multiplay D3D: http://eduke32.com/
Doom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_source_ports
Take your pick ...
My personal favs:
Doomsday
zDoom
Skulltag
.... etcetera ............

Also: http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/?platform=2

For testdrive: use LAN between PCs, there is a howto in the tutorial section about LAN multiplay in dosbox.

Ottopartz460
04-02-2014, 05:59 AM
All you need to multiplay D3D: http://eduke32.com/
Doom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_source_ports
Take your pick ...
My personal favs:
Doomsday
zDoom
Skulltag
.... etcetera ............

Also: http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/?platform=2

For testdrive: use LAN between PCs, there is a howto in the tutorial section about LAN multiplay in dosbox.

Ok, I downloaded Eduke32. IT's pretty cool, but how can I play against somebody sitting right next to me?

Also, I've been trying to get the original Grand Theft Auto to hook up between the computers. Is there a difference between a serial cable and an ethernet cable? I thought I got close with using an ethernet cable from one computer to the other and setting up a modem game, but the guest computer wants me to dial a specific number. Should I just get a serial cable (the one that looks like a printer cable) and hook the computers up to each other and hope that works?

dosraider
04-02-2014, 06:34 AM
First step: be sure networking is OK.
In your case I would say:
1) LAN cable in HP Win7, setup home network.
2) then hook up Dell XP on cable , setup connect to home network.
Check if PCs see eachother, as long your LAN isn't correctly setup all efforts to multiplay are futile.

Use HP W7 as duke server
Use Dell XP as client.
(setup a LAN server/client in eduke is self explanatory, follow menus)

Be sure eduke is allowed to pass through firewall.

LAN = ethernet in your case, do you need that router? (Can block, maybe you need port forwarding? try directly between PCs first if you can)

[Edit]
Has been a while, checked settings and eduke32 server/client

To launch eduke32 server:
eduke32 -server (easiest is to create shortcut and adapt command)
All options for multiplay will be at your fingertips ( be sure to allow firewall access!!!!)
-> Start game

To connect client via LAN:
eduke32 -connect *server ip*
Same, easiest is to create extra shortcut and adapt launch command.
Same again: firewall access, if you use a router between PCs maybe you'll have to forward ports (not sure ....., depends, read router manual)

[Editē]
Networking OK (Win7 PC)
http://thumbnails112.imagebam.com/30586/59ce48305850930.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/59ce48305850930)

Launching eduke32 server (Win7 PC)
http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/30586/0609e2305850944.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0609e2305850944)

Game server launched (Win7 PC)
http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/30586/248309305851022.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/248309305851022)

Client connected to eduke32 server from XP PC
http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/30586/a222c3305851070.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a222c3305851070)

shake them baby !!!

Maxaxle
17-02-2014, 03:19 PM
Just incase you still haven't solved the gas/steering interference problems: maybe your keyboard is ghosting? Try assigning the steering to something higher up on your keyboard than the gas and brakes; a semi-ideal situation would have the gas as Q, the brakes as A, and the steering as the arrow keys or comma and period keys.