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yoga
25-05-2012, 09:49 AM
Hi, I started the 3-th game from TES.
I like this saga, even well respected senior Japo thinks I didn't like Daggerfall.
No. Simply Arena is my first love, my first kiss in human life.
Hard to explain but true..

.well I started Morrowind with Bloodmoon and other.

I am Dark elf and the Lady. More of my characteristics in a mean moment.
I am equipped and armored, i know my duty.

But as usually the beginner has some Q. Excuse me Dosraider any novice has something to ask.

1 Q: I dunno how to call Quick Keys menu.
2 Q: Shame, but i dunno how to fight? Which are button for or maybe mouse? Yes, with F i ready the weapon and with ] i change the weapon. I do not want to use WT as stated my friend Capo. It is funny to meet some gigantic crab, who is ready to kill me in the very beginning because this is my first battle.
Ha ha...
The brave killed by some crab..

..and how to collect more money?:ph34r:

Every specialist and no specialist is welcome in my thread. Even.. even.. Dosraider.
Feel free to comment or make remarks.

funny moments ahead, ah?

DarthHelmet86
25-05-2012, 10:42 AM
To fight you ready your weapon and swing, there is an option in the menu to use best attack only I would turn that on if I was you. Otherwise the direction of movement changes the attack and each weapon is better in one attack then the others. Also quick clicking does the lowest damage, holding and then releasing the mouse button will do the higher damage. Depending on the speed of the weapon holding is better or clicking fast is better.

To make money collect things and sell them, if the merchant doesn't have enough money buy items off him then wait 24 hours and start selling those items back to him since he has gotten money back.

Japo
25-05-2012, 03:21 PM
Hehe I knew this was coming soon... :D

The quick keys menu is F1. You can see all the keys (and change them) in Esc > "Options".

To "swing" or attack just left-click (not right- like in Arena and Daggerfall) with the mouse, while your weapon is drawn. There are three types of attack, "chop" "slash" and "thrust" I think. By default you choose the attack by moving the mouse in a particular way while clicking, only that there's only one correct attack for each weapon. For example a chitin spear does up to 13 damage with "thrust", but only up to 2 with the other attacks. As Darth says there's an option in the menu (again Esc > "options") to always use the best attack for every weapon, and then attacking is just click-click-click.

If you hold the left mouse button pressed a little the attack will be stronger. (You can press tab to switch to third person for a moment and see how long does it take your character to wind up the strike completely.)

The best way to collect money is looting of course. But for now I'd just see what you can do in Seyda Neen and then follow the story at least until you're in Balmora. There you can join any guild (and the Imperial cult in the fort outside town) and get quests to level up.

When you're starting out you can make a difference in money by stealing everything you can, if you want. You don't need a good stealth skill if you can find places where nobody's looking, although it's good to use those skills to train them. And remember that you can't sell something if you stole it in the same store/house, because they will recognize the stuff.

Alchemy can be a source of income too, as you can find ingredients everywhere. You can sell them directly but the potions should sell for much more. Also alchemy is hugely useful in Morrowind. You'll need at least a mortar, you can buy or steal one at a number of places, for example the Mague's Guild.

Capo
25-05-2012, 03:26 PM
I suggest to install some mods before starting, a TES not modded is not a TES.

yoga
25-05-2012, 05:34 PM
Hehe I knew this was coming soon... :D

The quick keys menu is F1. You can see all the keys (and change them) in Esc > "Options".

To "swing" or attack just left-click (not right- like in Arena and Daggerfall) with the mouse, while your weapon is drawn. There are three types of attack, "chop" "slash" and "thrust" I think. By default you choose the attack by moving the mouse in a particular way while clicking, only that there's only one correct attack for each weapon. For example a chitin spear does up to 13 damage with "thrust", but only up to 2 with the other attacks. As Darth says there's an option in the menu (again Esc > "options") to always use the best attack for every weapon, and then attacking is just click-click-click.

If you hold the left mouse button pressed a little the attack will be stronger. (You can press tab to switch to third person for a moment and see how long does it take your character to wind up the strike completely.)

The best way to collect money is looting of course. But for now I'd just see what you can do in Seyda Neen and then follow the story at least until you're in Balmora. There you can join any guild (and the Imperial cult in the fort outside town) and get quests to level up.

When you're starting out you can make a difference in money by stealing everything you can, if you want. You don't need a good stealth skill if you can find places where nobody's looking, although it's good to use those skills to train them. And remember that you can't sell something if you stole it in the same store/house, because they will recognize the stuff.

Alchemy can be a source of income too, as you can find ingredients everywhere. You can sell them directly but the potions should sell for much more. Also alchemy is hugely useful in Morrowind. You'll need at least a mortar, you can buy or steal one at a number of places, for example the Mague's Guild.

Many thanks for your kind advices dear DarthHelmet86, Japo and Capo.

I very carefully read them and memorized.
For fighting:
May i say it is like..
One press the spring (the weapon), hold for some moment and release to hit enemy?
..ah..something very strange occurred..ha ha ha
I back to the town, swimming the water to rest, because this crab hit me very bad and suddenly some guard attacked and killed the crab...
Very nice act indeed but now i am unable to train on it and use the new lessons.

Well, if i steal something, will be killed as in Ultima Pagan 8 or not?

Please this is my first info:

Dark elf and the Lady
Major skills
Block-30, Long blade-35, Light armor-40, Marksman - 40 and Alteration-30
Minor skills
Mystic -20, Alchemy-15,Restoration-15,Short blade-30, Athletics-20
Misc Skills
Armorer-5, Medium armor-5,Heavy armor-5,Blunt weapon-5

Health-45/45
Medicine-50/50 ? Exc. me do not remember. Memory used.
Fatigue-185/185

Str-40, Int-50, Willp-30, Agil-40,Speed-50, End-75, Pers-55,Luck-40

I have silver short sword, Iron saber, chitin short bow with 3 arrows (no money) and 1 iron arrow, good armor maybe but have no en. money for new Pants.
About 20 money.
Location - some island near the town..

wait, wait - some black assassin appeared and killed me at once..Rats!!!
Hmm.. i have to train on somebody how to fight.....

@Japo
Yes, the "poison" of TES catches me.
Yesterday i was all the day with Mor..
My friends called me for football game, cat. refused.

Japo
25-05-2012, 05:57 PM
Once I managed to increase my sneak skill I like to sneak on all my enemies and hit them as hard as I can before they see me. It's pretty hilarious when you do it with strength 300 and a daedric katana or the hammer Sunder. :)

Well, if i steal something, will be killed as in Ultima Pagan 8 or not?

You mean if you're caught, right? :) Ask any guard and he can inform you (normally, you don't have to get caught to ask this), I think the topics are "law" or "fines and compensation". If I recall correctly you're given three options: to return the stolen items (I think they somehow identify all of them, not just the ones you just stole at that place) and pay a fine; to return the stuff but not to pay and accept instead a sentence to hard labor (which will reduce your skills); and of course to resist arrest (http://i102.photobucket.com/download-albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/ScreenShot13.jpg).

yoga
26-05-2012, 06:14 AM
Once I managed to increase my sneak skill I like to sneak on all my enemies and hit them as hard as I can before they see me. It's pretty hilarious when you do it with strength 300 and a daedric katana or the hammer Sunder. :)



You mean if you're caught, right? :) Ask any guard and he can inform you (normally, you don't have to get caught to ask this), I think the topics are "law" or "fines and compensation". If I recall correctly you're given three options: to return the stolen items (I think they somehow identify all of them, not just the ones you just stole at that place) and pay a fine; to return the stuff but not to pay and accept instead a sentence to hard labor (which will reduce your skills); and of course to resist arrest (http://i102.photobucket.com/download-albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/ScreenShot13.jpg).

:smile2:
I checked the provided link Resist Arrest.

Bravo, senior Japo. You killed all these 8-9 guards.. You are probably perfect fighting machine, not as stupid yoga who afraid to enter and kill just ordinary crab..
Hmm.. but maybe i have some magic option? maybe..?

sob..sob

OFF
Try Dungeon master 2, pls.

Japo
26-05-2012, 01:28 PM
:D I loaded the game after that, though. I didn't want to find out what's it like to be on the most wanted list.

The game's hard at first, there are many things out there that can kill you when you're starting (including stupid animals that shouldn't attack you in the first place). But after you increase your skills and attributes and get good weapons and armor, Morrowind is too easy.

My combat uses little or no magic, although that's an option. I must say I went for heavy armor, which is of course more protective than light or medium armor. And armor gives you more protection the more skilled you are with it.

OFF/ I'll note down your suggestion, but I don't know when I'll play DM2. Now I'm with the Elder Scrolls like you, and I also just bought Civilization V because it was cheap, but it will be long until I have time to play it... I did play Dungeon Master (1) a long time ago and I liked it a lot. I didn't finish it but I played a lot of levels. Having to make my own maps was a little too much, though, but I suppose DM2 will have its own maps.

yoga
26-05-2012, 01:49 PM
Done deeds:
I have returned the Healing ring to Fargoth.

I have helped Hrisskar to find money from Fargoth.

I have returned money from killed tax-collector Processus to the boss Sosuctos. He promised me 500 golds if i find and kill the murder of collector.

I do not hurry and investigated the small town and around.
I found the taxi - a big bug-like monster who may service as taxi. No. I know this is a save way but i have to up my 1 level.

I found a cave but when i enter with piece some men (incl. mage) attacked me badly so the brave retired fast. Some friend tell me about some cave full of brilliants and money. This one?
But i am still weak to fight number of opps. Probably i have to kill them all.

I upgraded my armor and shield. Now i have about 300 golds.

I tried to grab the picture with Print Screen. Not allowed. Have to make some change in the file.

But, but something is still wrong with my fighting. OK, i tried to find a good trainer to train me. No one.

Ok, what i do when meet crab or other opp?

My Health meter is full.
I have good iron shield. I have nice pant now. The option for the best attack is on. My armor class is 10.
My weapon is iron saber and with button F it is ready to hit.
The opp approaching. I am waiting ready to fight. Nice.
When the opp enters within fighting distance I point the crossbar to the opp, press the left mouse button, wait 3-4 seconds and release the button.
Is the strong sound a successful hit of yoga?
Japo said: click, click,click.
OK, but every-time a warning appeared:
--You can not rest here until enemy is close.---
But i do not want to rest but fight!!

Yes, for You this is funny, but for me this IS VERY important. I see how my health meter reduced, but fucked bug or crab is still alive.
:no:
Anyway the game is very nice. The atmosphere, the moving citizens, environment is open, the graphic, even the music.
I like it.
This is gigantic step ahead of Bethesda.

the brave

OFF

PS: Of course DM2 has very good own map. It is not so big map.
I can help with the map link, if needed, every time.
Very important: The famous minions are not appeared in the first let sat 1/3 part of the game. But when You see a flying round object before You at 2-3 meters heights, yes, the hell is here. Of course You may counter attack with own minions every moment.. But here is thread not for DM2 but for Mor.
:))

Japo
26-05-2012, 04:59 PM
The taxi bug is mostly for convenience, to save long boring travels. But now at first you'll enjoy the travel, you should take a look a the world of Morrowind.

If you press PrnScr the game takes the image and saves it to the game installation folder, instead of copying it to the clipboard. But it uses the BMP format, which is uncompressed and takes a lot of space; open them with MS Paint and save as JPG.

3-4 seconds are way too many, half a second is as strong as your attack will get. (I guess, because I haven't really found the information anywhere.) If you spend too long without attacking you're giving your enemy a huge advantage, of course.

I don't know how could you get that message about resting by clicking, to rest you have to press T. Again you can see all the keys by pressing Esc to access the menu, choosing "options", and then the "controls" tab. Remember that attacking is with the left mouse button, the right one is to access your inventory, magic, map and stats.

yoga
26-05-2012, 06:45 PM
Muchas gracias, amigo!!!

Yes, i did. Piece of cake!!! After 3-4 hits the black assassin who beat me 10 times was killed.

My control setting were wrong!! I dunno why.

Mouse, 0 - rest ???
Thats why when the brave try to fight, appeared this warning.
Well, I press Reset and all was OK.

I am so happy. Now all mudcrabs, some small lizard and so on will be dead.

1000 times Gracias, Senior Japo!
God bless YOU!!

even, even i will try again in that hostile cave..

:smile2::smile2::)
now the brave is level 2...

yoga
27-05-2012, 05:38 AM
Yes, i am in Balmora.

The good fact is that the hero may always visit again some place or town.
I reached the town step-by-step liberating some prisoners in a cave.
Sadly i have no car as in Fallout.
I am a good and fair Knight. In the second cave i found only eggs and some stuff.

Can i separate this stuff in different groups - for example - this is food, this is medicine, this is weapon and so on?
Too many stuff. My sack is full.

Still investigating. Have no any map(s).

Japo
27-05-2012, 05:14 PM
In the inventory window you can click on the tabs at the top ("all", "weapon", "apparel", "magic", "misc") to filter the items you see.

You can see the map when you right-click, along with the inventory, magic, and stats. You can toggle between a local map and a map of the whole island by clicking on the button. It will show points of interests after you've explored them or told about them, but until that you can learn about new places by reading some books or papers (for example, the "Guide to Vvanderfell"). A great way to learn about new places is to accept quests (after joining the guilds for example), most will require you to travel. But the island is huge, you can finish the game without seeing lots of it.

The main purpose of the "food" is as alchemical ingredients. To perform alchemy you need at least a "mortar and pestle". When you hover the mouse over an ingredient it tells you what effect it has. You can perform alchemy by dragging the mortar and pestle over your character's image in the inventory window. Then you make potions by combining ingredients: a potion has any effects (positive or negative) that at least two of its ingredients have in common.

Eating ingredients alone without preparing them into potions has no effect. If you aren't going to do alchemy for now, it's best to just sell all that.

yoga
28-05-2012, 07:11 AM
Muchas gracias querido amigo Japo.

Pls be advised i immediately use your directions.
YOU are the only person who advise and help me.

It is very interesting game. All is huge and gigantic! Wow!
Now i am level 3.
Armor class 34.
I have 32 k money. Yes, because i did the quest Lord's mail. Then i sold this mail to museum.
I increased Mysticism and 2 other options (sry cant remember now i am out of the game) training in Six Fishes.
The only opp i am unable to kill now is some famous skeleton with bow located in the sewers of Grand Bazaar if You remember this place.

and howto change the interface of my hero - from the normal (when before me in a cross) to sideways (when hero runs before me).

the brave aka humble yoga
:whistling:

Japo
28-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Your Spanish is perfect. :) Regretfully I don't know any Bulgarian, so I can't respond in kind.

It's a very nice game. It was overdue, 6 years after Daggerfall. And as you can see, in that time, computer hardware, and graphic hardware acceleration in particular, made a huge leap.

I may give Morrowind another spin soon enough. There's still much juice I can take out of it before moving to Oblivion. Now that I know what I like and what I don't, I'll look for mods that look nice, and I'll play it again.

Armor rating 34 is nice. Safety first! If you train the armor skill that rating will be multiplied. It's "heavy" armor, right? Keep your eyes open and see if you can find or steal ebony or even daedric armor. That is if you can take that much weight; but if you follow the main quest (Caius) you'll eventually get an opportunity to raise your strength to a super human level. (At the end of the game I had an armor rating of 233. :o But the game was too easy by then.)

I don't know what Grand Bazaar you mean. I'm not sure either what you mean by sideways interface. To change to a "3rd person" point of view, and back to 1st person, press Tab. Again all keys are in Esc > options > controls... If you keep Tab pressed you'll be able to rotate the point of view around your character, to look at him from any side.

hunvagy
29-05-2012, 05:53 AM
Your Spanish is perfect. :) Regretfully I don't know any Bulgarian, so I can't respond in kind.

It's a very nice game. It was overdue, 6 years after Daggerfall. And as you can see, in that time, computer hardware, and graphic hardware acceleration in particular, made a huge leap.

I may give Morrowind another spin soon enough. There's still much juice I can take out of it before moving to Oblivion. Now that I know what I like and what I don't, I'll look for mods that look nice, and I'll play it again.

Armor rating 34 is nice. Safety first! If you train the armor skill that rating will be multiplied. It's "heavy" armor, right? Keep your eyes open and see if you can find or steal ebony or even daedric armor. That is if you can take that much weight; but if you follow the main quest (Caius) you'll eventually get an opportunity to raise your strength to a super human level. (At the end of the game I had an armor rating of 233. :o But the game was too easy by then.)

I don't know what Grand Bazaar you mean. I'm not sure either what you mean by sideways interface. To change to a "3rd person" point of view, and back to 1st person, press Tab. Again all keys are in Esc > options > controls... If you keep Tab pressed you'll be able to rotate the point of view around your character, to look at him from any side.

Unless of course he's playing a class where heavy armor is a minor skill. That would make things a bit more complicated. If it's a misc skill, then it'll be even worse. As for travelling, if athletics and acrobatics aren't major skills, you should run and jump everywhere, to train it up.

yoga
29-05-2012, 08:46 AM
Unless of course he's playing a class where heavy armor is a minor skill. That would make things a bit more complicated. If it's a misc skill, then it'll be even worse. As for travelling, if athletics and acrobatics aren't major skills, you should run and jump everywhere, to train it up.

@hunvagy

Yes, option Heavy armor = 12 is in my Misc skill.
Sadly, one has not have all 4 aces in hand.:smile2:
But You are right- nice heavy armor is needed ASAP.

@Japo

Grand Bazaar.
I am in side mission now.
Yes, following the task after Dark Brotherhood attempt to kill me i entered their head-quartet and killed the boss finding a contract giving the license for yoga execution in name of some "H". To find the Dark Brotherhood i have to visit Grand bazaar and use the relevant sewers.
The Grand Bazaar is in Mournhold.
Mournhold and Vvardenfell are probably provinces of Ebonheart.

level 4
Armor class 40
Money 39 k

I visited all possible trainers to train and improve my characteristic. I improved The Enchant 9, Destruction 19, Mysticism 25.
Now i will concentrate onto Potion prepare with Mortar.
...
Some citizen directed me to Velas manor in Godsreach, near Grand Bazaar.
I visited this manor but Save before entering. Clever act!! Inside manor was the brother of the killed Dark Brotherhood boss, who waited me with gang to avenge his bro dead.

Then i visited Craftsmen hall in attempt to buy nice armor. The smith informed me that i have to find and bring special adamantiuom ore for the armor and...and the price for all armor is more bigger that my 39 k? I do not like such an offer.

Moreover i tried some preliminary scenario and was involved in a task to eliminate 2 leader of goblin army. But the preliminary test showed that i am still weak to kill alone these goblins who attacked in group. Yes, i may hire a good fighter but ....

Hmmm... maybe i have to back to the main mission..This game is so huge that maybe one need a year to visit and accomplish all missions. It is like a chain. The protagonist finished the mission and new appeared and again and again till in Daggerfall one knows that after this mission is that one. No more. Yes, some small additional quests were available too but not in this Morrowind huge scale.

One more word. The game is so nice!!! I have no word to express my admiration..Every picture detail is made with love. Real masterpiece!!!
Bravo Bethesda, bravo..
:OK:

hunvagy
29-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Well if it's a misc skill, then training your heavy armor will not make you level up. That can be good or bad, depending on how fast you like your leveling. But it also won't add options to the attribute increases on level up. If I recall correctly for Morrowind, raising major skill contribute to level up, and raising minor skills contributes to the points you can add to the governing attribute on level up. If you're a mage, or the like, you shouldn't be using heavy armor anyway. Just because it's heavy, it's not better. The Tribunal armor (medium) has better end game statistics then daedric armor.

Japo
29-05-2012, 06:03 PM
Yoga, the Grand Bazaar is in a region belonging to one of the expansions, which I didn't have. But I'll probably have it when I re-play this. I'm not sure how expansions will work... Will they add parallel "main" quests?

Whatever type of armor you choose, I'd advise you to pay for training for its skill (heavy, medium or light), now that you have money. It will multiply your armor rating for the same equipment. And other skills can be raised for free by practice on your own much faster, but armor skills will get stuck until you pay for training.

That's why I don't think armor skills are a good choice to include in your class, they will keep your level down in the early and most challenging part of the game. If you want to level up you should include in your class skills that will get practiced quick.

About alchemy, with the amount of ingredients you can find, you can practice all you want. The potions you don't want for yourself can be sold for a huge profit. Of course at the start you won't succeed most times, but even if you fail it's practice, at no expense. Or you can pay for a little training, since it's cheap when your skill is low.

The big trick about alchemy is casting anything that you have to fortify intelligence. Then making potions of fortify intelligence. Then drinking them. And only then making the rest of your potions, that will result much better.

Hmmm... maybe i have to back to the main mission..This game is so huge that maybe one need a year to visit and accomplish all missions. It is like a chain. The protagonist finished the mission and new appeared and again and again till in Daggerfall one knows that after this mission is that one. No more. Yes, some small additional quests were available too but not in this Morrowind huge scale.

One more word. The game is so nice!!! I have no word to express my admiration..Every picture detail is made with love. Real masterpiece!!!
Bravo Bethesda, bravo..
:OK:

The game and the amount of quests, counting the main quest, factions, etc. are absolutely huge. I don't know how long you'd have to play to exhaust them all, I don't even think you will.

If you're a mage, or the like, you shouldn't be using heavy armor anyway. Just because it's heavy, it's not better. The Tribunal armor (medium) has better end game statistics then daedric armor.

Why? Just because of the D&D cliché?

It seems medium armor choice got very promoted in the expansions, in the vanilla game it sucks (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Medium_Armor#Notes) big time, the best had lower protection (145) than the best light armor (168) and of course heavy (266).

EDIT: By the way Yoga, I told you how to take screenshots, but I forgot that for this to work you need to edit the "morrowind.ini" file in your installation folder and change "Screen Shot Enable=0" to =1.

hunvagy
30-05-2012, 05:55 AM
Nope, because it's a misc skill. It's more fun to only train minors and misc with trainers, unless you gotten to the point where you need days to raise skill levels. Major skills go up as you use them, and in my opinion it provides a much smoother level up curve. Unless yoga is using redone leveled lists via mods, one won't meet really unkillable enemies.

As for length.. last time I stopped I was done with Tribunal and Bloodmoon, which are paralell, as you put it Japo, so they don't care about the main questline, and don't even remember my level, but ha a solid 150 hours in the game :p I had aroun 300k gold though, so I just cruised aroun with my tribunal armor and the swords of Almalexia xD

yoga
30-05-2012, 06:29 AM
lvl 5
armor 42

Sry, the normal picture is 700 KB!

hunvagy
30-05-2012, 09:47 AM
lvl 5
armor 42

Sry, the normal picture is 700 KB!

Wow, that's either a very bad lighting, or lots of texture errors o_O And glass sword on level 5? Not bad :D

yoga
30-05-2012, 02:23 PM
Wow, that's either a very bad lighting, or lots of texture errors o_O And glass sword on level 5? Not bad :D

:smile2:
Ha ha ha

I had this glass sword in level 3 already, dear Hunvagy.

Picture:
I changed the file Morrowind.ini, save and leave.
Then pressed button PrintScreen and left. The file was ready at the original game directory. But it was 700 KB in BMP format. So i was forced to use the Option Crop and the result is this small picture (about 120 KB).

Normally after PrintScreen i use the program Paint of Windows, namely Paste and finito.

Yes, the lighting showed in the picture is not nice but this is a real moment of the game, if You want brilliance just tell me.

Location: The brave is running somewhere in West Gash Region near Ald-ruhn town.
I play the game with Tribunal and Bloodmoon.
This place belongs to Tribunal.

I still use the equipment of the killed Dark Brotherhood Apprentice.

Japo
30-05-2012, 06:16 PM
Picture:
I changed the file Morrowind.ini, save and leave.
Then pressed button PrintScreen and left. The file was ready at the original game directory. But it was 700 KB in BMP format. So i was forced to use the Option Crop and the result is this small picture (about 120 KB).

Normally after PrintScreen i use the program Paint of Windows, namely Paste and finito.

Never ever use BMP, specially on the Internet. Open the file in Windows MS Paint, File > Save as... > and in "save as type" drop-down menu change from BMP to JPEG, press OK, then use that.

Yes, the lighting showed in the picture is not nice but this is a real moment of the game, if You want brilliance just tell me.

I find screenshots taken by the game to be very much too dark, I usually have to edit them. Actually in the game I have the gamma correction above par, that's probably it. I guess it depends on the lighting in your room, but it's all too dark.

Location: The brave is running somewhere in West Gash Region near Ald-ruhn town.
I play the game with Tribunal and Bloodmoon.
This place belongs to Tribunal.

Nope that's from the core game, Ald-ruhn is one of the capitals of Vvanderfell. The original game has only this island, not Mournhold etc.

I've just started a game myself, with both expansions, and some mods. Yoga, the game looks even nicer with mods:

(click to enlarge)

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind14.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind14.jpg)

yoga
30-05-2012, 07:38 PM
Never ever use BMP, specially on the Internet. Open the file in Windows MS Paint, File > Save as... > and in "save as type" drop-down menu change from BMP to JPEG, press OK, then use that.



I find screenshots taken by the game to be very much too dark, I usually have to edit them. Actually in the game I have the gamma correction above par, that's probably it. I guess it depends on the lighting in your room, but it's all too dark.



Nope that's from the core game, Ald-ruhn is one of the capitals of Vvanderfell. The original game has only this island, not Mournhold etc.

I've just started a game myself, with both expansions, and some mods. Yoga, the game looks even nicer with mods:

(click to enlarge)

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind14.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/download-albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind14.jpg)


:hihihi:
But, but Senior Japo, are YOU this nice girl Marianne?

:whistling:
I am like dark hooligan..

ha ha ha

Japo
30-05-2012, 11:18 PM
:hihihi:
But, but Senior Japo, are YOU this nice girl Marianne?

:whistling:
I am like dark hooligan..

ha ha ha

That's a NPC. I'm a blonde. :D

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind16.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind16.jpg)

I need to find nicer clothes ASAP. :D She's very short, like Kylie Minogue.

And this is the dark hooligan who killed Dagoth Ur the last time:

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind33.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind33.jpg)

yoga
31-05-2012, 06:28 AM
That's a NPC. I'm a blonde. :D

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind16.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind16.jpg)

I need to find nicer clothes ASAP. :D She's very short, like Kylie Minogue.

And this is the dark hooligan who killed Dagoth Ur the last time:

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind33.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind33.jpg)


:smugulon:

Ha ha ha
ha ha ha

:hihihi:

If i may very humble to say:

-Every nice girl is perfect with bikini only...

Note:

Howto see my hero face. I tried but did not reverse my hero.

My first problem:
Neminda, lady from Ald'ruhn told me to speak with some Drulene Falen, who is nearby. Still did not find.
I will try again and again.

Dear Japo, kill thar Dark Brotherhood man and you will have better dresses.

:rolleyes:

yoga
31-05-2012, 06:51 AM
Wow, that's either a very bad lighting, or lots of texture errors o_O And glass sword on level 5? Not bad :D

:smile2:
Is the picture now better, Hunvagy?

JPEG, 117 KB.

.....
Simply I installed 2-3 lighting bulbs around...
No, no in the room but on the battlefield, y'now...

:whistling:

yoga
31-05-2012, 09:41 AM
Oh, at last!

I found this lady Drulane Falen, she directed me that bad Mud crabs are somewhere at the South west coast, the brave found the crabs (they are 3 and located around dead body of lady's guard quar, around many swamps and very near to the water). When the first is killed, do not move far from this place but make 3-4 steps and wait. The rest both crabs will appeared. Then back to the lady. Then back to the town Ald'ruhn. Report to lady Neminda..
The mission accomplished.
:whistling:

Ha ha ha
New task? Maybe yes maybe not!

..
BTW
the creators of the game probably played The game Dungeon Master 2 because i see the alternative of the nasty minions here as Cliff Racers. Abs. the same - yes, the form is slightly different (minions from DM2 are small flying rolling spheres till Racers are big birds but the behavior is the same - to tease the hero.. )
Nothing new under the sun!

Sadly i tried to kill the flying monsters who produced the Racers but they attacked me with some green fog-like weapon and i flee.
But i killed some monster babies. They have blue abdomens.

BTW my picture represents the same moment.

Important note for the novices:
Mates, pls do not enter carelessly some caves in the mountain! Or maybe You will be attacked from Mage-like creatures which reduced your Carrying points. Yes, mine were reduced from 225 to 91 and the brave becomes unmovable! Gladly i used last Save file..

the brave now
lvl 6
carrying points 245
armor 45
money 39 k

Just going up-down now as a Ronin (a samurai without master)

:whistling:
yoga the samurai

Rats, i try to create potion but all my attempts failed always! Moreover i loose the ingredients used. Not fair at all.

PS: I do not know how to use some potion for ex. to cure Paralysis on NPC?

hunvagy
31-05-2012, 10:43 AM
You mean bonewalkers? Or Ash people? They are many enemies that have damage strength as attack. You can recover it with a spell/scroll/potion of restore strength. There's also a few diseases you can catch that lower your abilities, so keep a lookout for cure disease potions. As last resort you can just go to one of the temples and ask for healing there.

yoga
31-05-2012, 02:12 PM
You mean bonewalkers? Or Ash people? They are many enemies that have damage strength as attack. You can recover it with a spell/scroll/potion of restore strength. There's also a few diseases you can catch that lower your abilities, so keep a lookout for cure disease potions. As last resort you can just go to one of the temples and ask for healing there.

Yes, bone walkers. They are very fast casting this bad spell on me.
I am still novice in difficult science of medicine.
And these potion ingredients are countless and make me crazy. I pick and pick and pick and pick these herbs and still have no required ones. Moreover all my attempts failed and i loose the ingredients.
Rats!!
I have 40 k gold and the better variant is to buy ready potions. Yes, yoga is brave as lion and lazy as lion..
I am not stupid herbalist but brave hero who save the world so many times.

and now -yoga, take mortar, add hound meat + moon sugar and ...voilaaa
the balsam of eternal life is ready...
Hate such stuff..
:smile2:
i am warrior not old mam, who is living in the smoked hut with one eye black cat and simmers herbs.
In Ultima underworld 2 i had special bags for every group of stuffs. No same here.

@Japo
Do You killed the boss of Dark Brotherhood?

Capo
31-05-2012, 04:33 PM
:smile2:
Is the picture now better, Hunvagy?

JPEG, 117 KB.

.....
Simply I installed 2-3 lighting bulbs around...
No, no in the room but on the battlefield, y'now...

:whistling:

That "thing" running is you yoga ? :whops:

yoga
31-05-2012, 06:07 PM
That "thing" running is you yoga ? :whops:

YOU do not like me, Caro Capo?:smile2:

I understand, yes, but this is the fight equipment of the Dark Brotherhood.
Under the equipment is hidden the brave - black hair and blue eyes. Simple and humble person from BG.

If YOU mean the picture, these are my possibilities. Y'now.

I am not so big spec like YOU in these matters.

Soon after Senior Japo tell me how to make photo of my face YOU will see the brave..
I will do my best to change this black and ugly equipment ASAP.
Anyway this equipment gives me 45 armor which is one good result.

Japo
31-05-2012, 07:43 PM
-Every nice girl is perfect with bikini only...

There are no bikinis for sale in this shithole of Seyda Neen. Although nobody seems to care if I run around stark naked. :) I have to go shopping with my new special friend Marianne. Because of the mod I can befriend her by sharing food, booze (I got her drunk and she was staggering all over Seyda Neen) and drugs and she will accompany me. Charlie's Angels, go!

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind35.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind35.jpg)

She didn't like the ugly armor I bought her. She says she can't be seen in it, it's not chic. And she doesn't like helmets, they ruin her hair. Caius will have to train her in Unarmored, and I'll see what else can I find for her. That ugly shirt is the best she's been able to take from a dead body... ugh. I have to find those boutiques from the mod ASAP.

Plus looking in third person is the only proper way to play dress-up with your character.



....what?

:D

Howto see my hero face. I tried but did not reverse my hero.

I already told you:

To change to a "3rd person" point of view, and back to 1st person, press Tab. Again all keys are in Esc > options > controls... If you keep Tab pressed you'll be able to rotate the point of view around your character [with the mouse], to look at him from any side.


Neminda, lady from Ald'ruhn told me to speak with some Drulene Falen, who is nearby. Still did not find.

Usually you'd look for a house marked on the map as "Falen residence". Not sure if that was the case.

the creators of the game probably played The game Dungeon Master 2 because i see the alternative of the nasty minions here as Cliff Racers. Abs. the same - yes, the form is slightly different (minions from DM2 are small flying rolling spheres till Racers are big birds but the behavior is the same - to tease the hero.. )

It's good to have a ranged weapon or magic to kill those, otherwise they're too annoying.

Sadly i tried to kill the flying monsters who produced the Racers but they attacked me with some green fog-like weapon and i flee.
But i killed some monster babies. They have blue abdomens.

Those don't produce the racers, they're completely different animals.

Mates, pls do not enter carelessly some caves in the mountain! Or maybe You will be attacked from Mage-like creatures which reduced your Carrying points. Yes, mine were reduced from 225 to 91 and the brave becomes unmovable! Gladly i used last Save file..

If it was a permanent effect, you could have gone to a temple, or bought a potion, or cast a restoration spell if you knew them. If you don't have magic get some scrolls of Almsivi/Divine Intervention, they teleport you to the nearest Tribunal/Imperial temple, saving your ass and your time.

Rats, i try to create potion but all my attempts failed always! Moreover i loose the ingredients used. Not fair at all.

PS: I do not know how to use some potion for ex. to cure Paralysis on NPC?

To drink a potion, drag it onto the picture of your character on the equipment window, the same as you drag weapons or armor to equip them.

You don't have a good enough skill to start with. Contrary to what I said at first, you don't get experience unless you succeed. Don't worry if you don't like alchemy, don't use it. But it's only that it's very powerful in Morrowind, when you're skilled you can make potions much more powerful than the ones you can buy, and for free.

If you want in the future, you'll need some initial training. Also when your skill is too low you don't even see the effects of the ingredients (just "?"). My previous character didn't know any alchemy at first either, but later I had so much money I trained in almost everything, and I discovered how powerful alchemy is. Kylie Minogue has alchemy as major skill. :)

Do You killed the boss of Dark Brotherhood?

I killed the evil god of Red Mountain. He's the bad guy of the whole game.

yoga
31-05-2012, 08:09 PM
There are no bikinis for sale in this shithole of Seyda Neen. Although nobody seems to care if I run around stark naked. :) I have to go shopping with my new special friend Marianne. Because of the mod I can befriend her by sharing food, booze (I got her drunk and she was staggering all over Seyda Neen) and drugs and she will accompany me. Charlie's Angels, go!

(click)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind35.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind35.jpg)

She didn't like the ugly armor I bought her. She says she can't be seen in it, it's not chic. And she doesn't like helmets, they ruin her hair. Caius will have to train her in Unarmored, and I'll see what else can I find for her. That ugly shirt is the best she's been able to take from a dead body... ugh. I have to find those boutiques from the mod ASAP.



:D



I already told you:


Usually you'd look for a house marked on the map as "Falen residence". Not sure if that was the case.



It's good to have a ranged weapon or magic to kill those, otherwise they're too annoying.



Those don't produce the racers, they're completely different animals.



If it was a permanent effect, you could have gone to a temple, or bought a potion, or cast a restoration spell if you knew them. If you don't have magic get some scrolls of Almsivi/Divine Intervention, they teleport you to the nearest Tribunal/Imperial temple, saving your ass and your time.



To drink a potion, drag it onto the picture of your character on the equipment window, the same as you drag weapons or armor to equip them.

You don't have a good enough skill to start with. Contrary to what I said at first, you don't get experience unless you succeed. Don't worry if you don't like alchemy, don't use it. But it's only that it's very powerful in Morrowind, when you're skilled you can make potions much more powerful than the ones you can buy, and for free.

If you want in the future, you'll need some initial training. Also when your skill is too low you don't even see the effects of the ingredients (just "?"). My previous character didn't know any alchemy at first either, but later I had so much money I trained in almost everything, and I discovered how powerful alchemy is. Kylie Minogue has alchemy as major skill. :)



I killed the evil god of Red Mountain. He's the bad guy of the whole game.

:ph34r:

If you want in the future, you'll need some initial training. Also when your skill is too low you don't even see the effects of the ingredients (just "?").

To be fair i see one effect and 3 ?. And i did one potion at last. Was very happy. Yes, i will cont. to try and develop my medicine knowledge.

Just a moment to clear some thing.
You, Senior Japo is small sweet blonde Kylie Minogu?
And Marianne is your companion?
Don Quijote y Sancho Panza?
..
lvl 7
245
37 k
45 armor

The brave did all 6 quests in Ald'ruhn.

I am training now always when some trainee offers this option and for some option i reached the top.

Excuse me for the Q. about my image. Yes, You explain me where are Control buttons. But starving to end some mission i forget it,,,:D

Maybe, maybe this is the best game i ever played. This is the reason not to hurry but make all available missions.
One thing is better in the game Shadowcaster: You may save the game even during the fight!! Yes, believe me.

La la la li hop!!

I never seen the rest games: Obvilion and Skyrim. Hope they are nice also?

Japo
31-05-2012, 09:00 PM
Just a moment to clear some thing.
You, Senior Japo is small sweet blonde Kylie Minogu?
And Marianne is your companion?
Don Quijote y Sancho Panza?

Yep. Don Quijote's armor must have looked like those iron greaves too.

I entered a tomb and a "lesser" bonewalker cursed me, but the curse was gone as soon as he was killed. Most effects are temporary anyway. But it's true that the curse of a "greater" bonewalker is permanent; but then it can be repaired at a temple or by potion, spell or scroll.

yoga
01-06-2012, 08:07 AM
level 7
armor 47
weights 255
money 33 k

health 90
magiska 54
fatique 200

str 51, int54,will31,agi42,spe59,end75,per56 luck41

Major skills: alt31,block47,long b54,light a49, marks35

Minor skills: res15,mys25, alc15, ath35, short b 29

Misc skills: armorer10, medium ar10, heavy ar13, blunt w10, axe11,spear10,enchant 9, destr19,illus10, conj5, unar8, sec8,sneak15,
acr6, merc7, speech7, hand-to-hand8

Faction Great house redoran
blades

Sigh: The lady
Reputation: 2
Bounty:0

Glass frostsword
Belt of iron will
Ring of healing
Viperstar 30
Dire viperarrow 11
Spark arrow 40
Holy shield
----
Potions of:
Restore fatigue - i did it
Bargain restore health 8
Cheap poison resistance
Exclusive restore int.
Standard rising force 2 - levitate
Frost shield
Restore strength
Paralyze
Water walking
Cure poison 2
Cure common disease
Cure blight disease
Sujamma 2


Scroll of Almsive int.
Scroll of Flamequard
Scroll of Gem feeder 3
Scroll of Icarian flight 3
Scroll of Ondusi 3
Scroll of restoration

some heavy stuff is stored at my base - home of Caius Cosades.

DarthHelmet86
01-06-2012, 08:35 AM
I am only popping in every now and then but I heard you talking about wearing heavy armour...don't. You have the major skill of Light Armour, so you should be using that. You will get better protection from light armour then you will from heavy armour.

yoga
01-06-2012, 10:30 AM
Armor 47

Armor in details:

Dark Brotherhood Helm
Armor Rating: 49
Condition: 300/300
Weight: 1 (Light)
Value 200

Dark Brotherhood Cuirass
Armor Rating: 49
Condition: 200/200
Weight: 6 (Light)
Value 1000

Dark Brotherhood Boots
Armor Rating: 49
Condition: 200/200
Weight: 2 (Light)
Value 100

Dark Brotherhood Greaves
Armor Rating: 49
Condition: 250/250
Weight: 3 (Light)
Value 100

Pauldrons and Gauntlets have the same AR:49

Sorry, i do not know what type is my armor. Light??
:smile2:

Thank You for the help, dear DarthHelmet86.

yoga
01-06-2012, 10:57 AM
Per il Signor Capo.

as promised

:D

DarthHelmet86
01-06-2012, 12:13 PM
I am pretty sure the Light next to the weight means it is Light armour. I am unsure though since it has been awhile since I played the game. Though I am thinking about making a Kahjit and playing it again.

yoga
01-06-2012, 02:59 PM
I am pretty sure the Light next to the weight means it is Light armour. I am unsure though since it has been awhile since I played the game. Though I am thinking about making a Kahjit and playing it again.

OFF

Before 2 minutes i visit youtube Channel and see in Lets play Obvilion 9 Zombie Cave how brave You fight with 3 zombies. Casting some like Fireballs You killed them all but fight was not so easy.Up-down You moved very fast avoiding direct contact. No, no very soon You used hand weapon, can not understand the type of.
You then take Rone metals from the dead bodies.
...
Actually the game is not so different comp. with Morrowind.
Yes i dunno the details.

:lol:

Unfortunately i have no still installed Sound driver in this PC.
Pls, does the author spoke during the video?

Capo
01-06-2012, 04:14 PM
Per il Signor Capo.

as promised

:D

A dummer, very appropriate for morrowind, i always play wood elf in this series, guess why :hello:


I will do my best to change this black and ugly equipment ASAP.
Anyway this equipment gives me 45 armor which is one good result.


The glass armour should be pretty good for what i remember.

yoga
01-06-2012, 05:22 PM
A dummer, very appropriate for morrowind, i always play wood elf in this series, guess why :hello:

Can not?

The glass armour should be pretty good for what i remember.

Hope to find this glass armor. Better than Dark Brotherhood's one?

yoga
01-06-2012, 09:58 PM
Something wrong happen to me yesterday.

Suddenly the left down picture, when i press right mouse button, disappeared ! This one with my image and all-weapons and so on.
I entered Option-Control buttons but can not find solution?

For example what is this Mouse 0 or mouse 1 ?

I am very upset because for me is very unhandy.

yoga
02-06-2012, 08:08 AM
Something wrong happen to me yesterday.

Suddenly the left down picture, when i press right mouse button, disappeared ! This one with my image and all-weapons and so on.
I entered Option-Control buttons but can not find solution?

For example what is this Mouse 0 or mouse 1 ?

I am very upset because for me is very unhandy.


Solved by clicking on the second left icon

yoga
02-06-2012, 04:26 PM
Lvl 9
Carries 275
armor 54
money 36 k

More 6 missions of Home of Redoran accomplished.

I tried to challenge goblins in the sewers but they regenerated and still i feel weak against these creatures. No, i killed them all with their Durzogs, but these continuous battles damages my armor. As i noted when i directed back i saw that all killed enemies are again alive and attacked me. The worst of all is that they attacked at group - 3 against me. But even weak i entered deep in their lands and reached their both leaders. They are strong for me still - 35 level - yog is 9 only..

My locking abilities are miserable. I can not open even a chest 5 level. Shame.

@Senior Japo,
i need a strong and loyal companion! Possible? Brothers in arms.

yoga
03-06-2012, 10:59 AM
Where the hell is this f....d cave MILK?

I lost day to search, in vein.:suspicious:

lvl 10

yoga
03-06-2012, 05:50 PM
Where the hell is this f....d cave MILK?
I lost day to search, in vein.:suspicious:
lvl 10

Milk found at last. But after the dead of mad man inside a new strange problem occurred.
The madman had a Ebony cuirass which weight is 60 kg and costs 30 k.
I can not find the merchant with such big sum.
How do YOU solve similar problem?

lvl 11
carry 295
armor 57
money 41 k

more new 5 missions of Home Remoran accomplished

Japo
03-06-2012, 09:54 PM
@Senior Japo,
i need a strong and loyal companion! Possible? Brothers in arms.

Sorry I was unavailable. But I played a little this weekend. :smile2:

I'm level 5, but just started looking around, not far in any faction. I did all of Ajira's errands at the Balmora magues guild, to befriend her, since she buys potions. I stole a grandmaster's mortar and pestle and the rest of the alchemy gear of master's level from a store uptown. I finally have decent armor: orcish pieces that I stole from a friendly orc's house in Caldera, bonemold boots, imperial heavy gauntlets, and the helm is the only nice piece of armor from the clothes mod, also heavy. Together it looks very good.

I continue with my companion Marianne, and I bought a guar (from a mod) that's great for carrying lots of stuff, and for riding (although the graphics for that are very poor, but in 1st person it doesn't matter), and it can carry Marianne too.

My greatest feat so far was killing the five Camonna Tong people in cold blood, at the behest of Larrius Varro. It was a tough fight: I cast dragonskin and bound longsword, shield, cuirass, helm and boots; but I still had to heal myself in the middle. I have to start increasing my very low endurance, because of my low hit points, and because it caps my armor skills.

I am pretty sure the Light next to the weight means it is Light armour.

The glass armour should be pretty good for what i remember.

Hope to find this glass armor. Better than Dark Brotherhood's one?

That armor is light indeed. That's what the word between parenthesis means. You should have told us you had such a high rating in light armor, and as a major class skill. Use it. You should probably also use a light shield, not sure what's that you're carrying.

What's your class? Did you pick a standard class, answer a list of questions at the census office, or made a custom class?

Glass armor is arguably the best armor in the game. It's more protective than any medium armor. The best heavy armor can protect you more but it's too heavy, you need to make your strength super human to use it.

In my opinion this Dark Brotherhood armor introduced by the Tribunal expansion is a bit hax, to make the game even easier. The only downside of light armor was that you didn't get strong protection until you found glass armor. Although if you know the game you already know where to steal it right at the start, but that would be a spoiler. With Tribunal they give you right at the start a full set that's as strong as orcish (far stronger than any medium or heavy armor that you find at that point), doesn't weight a thing, and uses the same skill as glass (also whose governing attribute is agility instead of endurance). It's basically a legal cheat.

I tried to challenge goblins in the sewers but they regenerated and still i feel weak against these creatures. No, i killed them all with their Durzogs, but these continuous battles damages my armor.

But consider that getting hit is the only way to train your armor skill on your own. Wearing it alone trains nothing. Instead of having smiths repair it, you can buy repairing tools and train the armorer skill.

The madman had a Ebony cuirass which weight is 60 kg and costs 30 k.
I can not find the merchant with such big sum.
How do YOU solve similar problem?

Selling equipment is a HUGE problem in this game, because merchants are ridiculously poor. That's why I absolutely needed a mod to multiply merchants' money. You'll start to get very annoyed now that you start finding very expensive stuff. When you're above the merchant's limit, for example if the limit was 5k, the only option is selling 30k and buying 25k in the same transaction, waiting 24 hours, selling 25k and buying 20k...

And no merchant will even have 25k worth of stuff for sale to begin with, so you'll have to have sold him before stuff that you can buy back (and waited 24h every time). And every time you buy and sell back you lose money (depending on how the merchant likes you and your mercantile skill). And there are very few merchants with even 1k limit.

There is one "cheat" merchant in Caldera, in a house full of orcs: he's a friendly scamp (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW-creature-Scamp.jpg) called "Creeper", who's a merchant with 5k limit, and he always pays the full "value" of items when you sell, and doesn't charge you anything above the "value" when you buy--so you don't lose money. But although very few other merchants have as high a limit as 5k, it's still way too little, after you start killing dremora who have daedric weapons, for example. You'll end up leaving stuff worth 50k gold on the floor, specially after you've already paid for all the training you wanted, just because you don't feel like doing the 5k x 24h thing.

:hairpull:

hunvagy
04-06-2012, 05:49 AM
That is if you don't have Tribunal. The Mournhold Merchants are pretty wealthy. I lugged back every single armor I ransacked when I cleaned out the Dark Brotherhood there, and came away with a bit over 400k :p Plus you can spend the time you wait on training. Just make a few training spells and use up mana/sleep/etc

*cough* It's Dunmer :p

And Japo, I found that the orcish medium is better then Dark Brotherhood, if your major is medium armor, not light.

Japo
04-06-2012, 11:07 AM
I have both expansions now, but I haven't visited Mournhold (or Solstheim) yet. It's good to know, but it's annoying having to travel to a single location every time you have something to sell. I know you can use the time to train magic, that just makes it more boring if you didn't plan to (or need, in the later game, or if you don't use magic). You can just "wait" the whole 24 hours, it doesn't affect the game, but even so it's incredibly boring and annoying selling a single daedric weapon.

And Japo, I found that the orcish medium is better then Dark Brotherhood, if your major is medium armor, not light.

That's like saying that orcish is better than glass if you major is medium instead of light; or iron if heavy. I'm talking about the qualities of the armor separate from the character's skills. Besides it depends on what rating you have in the armor skill, not if it's major or minor; it can be misc.

Orcish is more durable of course (can take more damage before breaking), but it weights a ton more too. The Dark Brotherhoods' armor is totally overpowered, and they give it to you for free right at the start.

About leveling up and attributes, I think someone mentioned here or in the other thread that increasing major skills advance your level and increasing minor skills add multipliers to the attribute increases. It's not like that, from what I've seen recently, and googled just now. Both major and minor skills advance your level. You advance when your major and minor skills (either equally) increase 10 points. But major skills take 25% less experience to increase each point, compared to minor. (Misc skills take 25% more, compared to minor.)

What gives you the multiplier for the attributes when leveling up is whether and how much you have used (increased) any skills whose "governing attribute" is each of them. But any skill counts here, including misc.

hunvagy
04-06-2012, 11:52 AM
I have both expansions now, but I haven't visited Mournhold (or Solstheim) yet. It's good to know, but it's annoying having to travel to a single location every time you have something to sell. I know you can use the time to train magic, that just makes it more boring if you didn't plan to (or need, in the later game, or if you don't use magic). You can just "wait" the whole 24 hours, it doesn't affect the game, but even so it's incredibly boring and annoying selling a single daedric weapon.



That's like saying that orcish is better than glass if you major is medium instead of light; or iron if heavy. I'm talking about the qualities of the armor separate from the character's skills. Besides it depends on what rating you have in the armor skill, not if it's major or minor; it can be misc.

Orcish is more durable of course (can take more damage before breaking), but it weights a ton more too. The Dark Brotherhoods' armor is totally overpowered, and they give it to you for free right at the start.

About leveling up and attributes, I think someone mentioned here or in the other thread that increasing major skills advance your level and increasing minor skills add multipliers to the attribute increases. It's not like that, from what I've seen recently, and googled just now. Both major and minor skills advance your level. You advance when your major and minor skills (either equally) increase 10 points. But major skills take 25% less experience to increase each point, compared to minor. (Misc skills take 25% more, compared to minor.)

What gives you the multiplier for the attributes when leveling up is whether and how much you have used (increased) any skills whose "governing attribute" is each of them. But any skill counts here, including misc.

Ah my bad, been a while since I played Morrowind. Wasn't entirely sure on the multipliers, but guess it still is best to raise the misc ones with the attributes you want to raise before maxing the major/minor. And my point was that I never ever used the dark brotherhood. Much better as a source of money. As for the travelling, I usually set up recall points at the merchants for a quick trip. Even if you aren't a mage (Nord spellsword.. barely had mana for a fireball) it is quite useful little spell to have.

yoga
04-06-2012, 03:46 PM
@Signor Capo
..Hmmm
yoga, the usage of WT is cheating, right?
...hmmmm
yoga, the Morrowind(Obvilion) is crap without mods.

Caro Capo, i do not understand your positions?

Please, explain yourself.

@Senior Japo

Mods? I used to install the mods. But dunno that there are installed and howto call them?

Capo
04-06-2012, 03:50 PM
@Signor Capo
..Hmmm
yoga, the using of WT is cheating, right?
...hmmmm
yoga, the Morrowind(Obvilion) is crap without mods?

Caro Capo, i do not understand your positions?

Please, explain yourself.


Well, Morrowind is pretty big so if you dont find a person searching for a tip is not exactly cheating :smile2:

For oblivion check the other topic (Elder Scroll).

yoga
04-06-2012, 06:31 PM
@Signor Capo
..Hmmm
yoga, the usage of WT is cheating, right?
...hmmmm
yoga, the Morrowind(Obvilion) is crap without mods.

Caro Capo, i do not understand your positions?

Please, explain yourself.

@Senior Japo

Mods? I used to install the mods. But dunno that there are installed and howto call them?



Beware:

When you is doing the next mission:
Retrieve three items from Redas tomb
keep in mind that Redas Chalice is actually Redas Goblet!!!
I lost 3 hours to understand this fact..
:3:

Japo
04-06-2012, 10:07 PM
A photo op of my heroine with her gear, and her guar:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind47.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind47.jpg) http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind45.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind45.jpg)

By the way, I forgot there's another easter-egg merchant who pays the full value, and has 10k gold. It's a friendly mudcrab (yes a crab, you read right) somewhere. I never bothered to look for it (I read about it in the UESP wiki).

Ah my bad, been a while since I played Morrowind. Wasn't entirely sure on the multipliers, but guess it still is best to raise the misc ones with the attributes you want to raise before maxing the major/minor. And my point was that I never ever used the dark brotherhood. Much better as a source of money. As for the travelling, I usually set up recall points at the merchants for a quick trip. Even if you aren't a mage (Nord spellsword.. barely had mana for a fireball) it is quite useful little spell to have.

I try not to think too much about powergaming. In my last (and first) game I didn't know how the multipliers work, but I ended up with every attribute at 100 (except for the ones above that because of the Corprus). Except now, in my current game I'm way too easy to kill, so I need to raise my endurance and train my armor skills ASAP: but fortunately the latter causes the former.

But the Dark Brotherhood armor really is very good, and not only for selling. It gives the same rating (if you had the same skill) as orcish, higher than dwemer and any heavy armor except ebony and daedric. At least that's what the wiki says.

Recall is nice, but because you can mark only one location (without mods) I use it when I have to return to a place that's very frequent (quest giver) out of hand (an ashlander camp). Otherwise the mages guilds' travel agents, silt striders and boats are convenient enough, and dirt cheap.

Mods? I used to install the mods. But dunno that there are installed and howto call them?

Mods aren't the easiest thing to install, and if you're happy with the game as is, there's no reason to use them. You may even like the game less after installing them.

yoga
07-06-2012, 08:33 AM
A photo op of my heroine with her gear, and her guar:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind47.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind47.jpg) http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/th_Morrowind45.jpg (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/japofran/games/Elder%20Scrolls%203%20Morrowind/Morrowind45.jpg)

By the way, I forgot there's another easter-egg merchant who pays the full value, and has 10k gold. It's a friendly mudcrab (yes a crab, you read right) somewhere. I never bothered to look for it (I read about it in the UESP wiki).



I try not to think too much about powergaming. In my last (and first) game I didn't know how the multipliers work, but I ended up with every attribute at 100 (except for the ones above that because of the Corprus). Except now, in my current game I'm way too easy to kill, so I need to raise my endurance and train my armor skills ASAP: but fortunately the latter causes the former.

But the Dark Brotherhood armor really is very good, and not only for selling. It gives the same rating (if you had the same skill) as orcish, higher than dwemer and any heavy armor except ebony and daedric. At least that's what the wiki says.

Recall is nice, but because you can mark only one location (without mods) I use it when I have to return to a place that's very frequent (quest giver) out of hand (an ashlander camp). Otherwise the mages guilds' travel agents, silt striders and boats are convenient enough, and dirt cheap.


Mods aren't the easiest thing to install, and if you're happy with the game as is, there's no reason to use them. You may even like the game less after installing them.


After 2 days of unsuccessfully mods installing attempts i decided to stop this project.

lvl 13
House Redoran
After 23 done quests i started first main quest:
TO build my House Stronghold

BTW i was virused but Imperial cult member helped me by some potion.
Cure general disease

I am still in fog and have to learn many things. Mainly Alchemy.
This game is not big Caro Capo but HUGE!
But i train myself non stop.

twillight
07-06-2012, 08:36 AM
I am still in fog and have to learn many things. Mainly Alchemy.
This game is not big Caro Capo but HUGE!
But i train myself non stop.

With all the sidequests maybe. But I've heared the main quest can be finished in mere 3 minutes!

hunvagy
07-06-2012, 10:06 AM
With all the sidequests maybe. But I've heared the main quest can be finished in mere 3 minutes!

Yes, with a speed run. So? TES games don't end just because you finish the main plotline. Focus was mostly on the sidequests anyway. And with the two addons, you have 3 main quests. Not to mention that the 3 minute skips the whole main plot line, and just goes to kill the bad guy. Which means you know who that is, and where he's hiding.

yoga
07-06-2012, 04:23 PM
Yes, with a speed run. So? TES games don't end just because you finish the main plotline. Focus was mostly on the sidequests anyway. And with the two addons, you have 3 main quests. Not to mention that the 3 minute skips the whole main plot line, and just goes to kill the bad guy. Which means you know who that is, and where he's hiding.


No, no dear twillight and hunvagy, after so many RPG i stop to ask who the bad guy is and where to find.

Moreover i play the game to enjoy but not to run as all devils are after my back.

ha ha ha

Hunvagy's opinion is correct. There are 3 main quests. If i am not wrong (correct me if necessary) we have about 200 side quests.
Wow!
Even Xeen World was not so huge!

@Senior Japo
Excuse me, during my expeditions up-down i met a strange white, transparent barrier which not allow me to cross through? Located somewhere northeast from Ald'runh town.
Maybe my low level status - just 13 only- is the reason for this fact or...?

Japo
07-06-2012, 11:02 PM
No, no dear twillight and hunvagy, after so many RPG i stop to ask who the bad guy is and where to find.
@Senior Japo
Excuse me, during my expeditions up-down i met a strange white, transparent barrier which not allow me to cross through? Located somewhere northeast from Ald'runh town.
Maybe my low level status - just 13 only- is the reason for this fact or...?

Nope, that's the "Ghostfence". The Tribunal (the rulers of Morrowind) erected it to protect their realm from the evil god of Red Mountain, Dagoth Ur (the Bad Guy). The Ghostfence can be entered through one point, the "Ghostgate".

You'll learn about Red Mountain, Dagoth Ur, the Tribunal, the Ghostfence and the Ghostgate if you follow the main quest. No need to give you spoilers, you only have to talk to Caius Cosades in Balmora to get started. You may not remember, but when you started the game you were a prisoner, and when the officials finally released you they told you to report to him. They told you he can be found by asking at the South Wall Cornerclub (also in Balmora). Look in the first pages of you journal. You can also ask many NPCs about these topics (Dagoth Ur, Ghostfence, etc.)

As you say both expansions (Tribunal and Bloodmoon) have their own respective main quests, unrelated to this main-main quest. I think you started the one for Tribunal, or at least traveled to Mournhold to find out about the Dark Brotherhood assassins attacking you?

The speedruns require previous knowledge, of course. The main quest is as long as any other game. And of course there's the free roaming, multitude of quests and factions.

Japo
18-06-2012, 11:12 PM
Where's the Brave?

Kylie's level 52, and I went hunting for some artifacts, including the Dragonbone Cuirass, the Helm of Orcyn Bearclaw, Eleidon's Ward and Goldbrand. Armor 224. Much too easy already, but I plan to play some quests and explore the expansions, which I haven't seen so far.

yoga
20-06-2012, 08:13 AM
Where's the Brave?

Kylie's level 52, and I went hunting for some artifacts, including the Dragonbone Cuirass, the Helm of Orcyn Bearclaw, Eleidon's Ward and Goldbrand. Armor 224. Much too easy already, but I plan to play some quests and explore the expansions, which I haven't seen so far.

Here is. :whistling:

Hi, all,


level 27
Carrying capacity 400
Armor 71
Money 14 k


Dark elf
Class Adventurer
The Lady
Reputation 11
Bounty 0


Great house Redoran -Arch master
Fighters club – Jorneyman
Ashlanders – Clanfriend
Blades – Finder


Armor
Redoran master Helm
Ebony Cuirass – 60 kgs !?!
DB Gauntlets
DB Pauldrons
Glass Greaves
Glass Boots
Goblin Buckler


Here I will politely disagree with well respected Hunvagy. The armor from Ebony is very heavy. If the hero armor is all from ebony he will have no room for stuff to carry.

I will make some notes concerning done missions:


Do not forget to enter cavern of Urshilaku, Astral Burial (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Urshilaku_Burial_Caverns) with one Levitate spell at least.
Hlormar Wine-Sot (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hlormar_Wine-Sot), a half-naked barbarian (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Barbarian) on the road northwest of Caldera (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Caldera), would like your help retrieving the Cloud cleaver axe from a witch Sosia. I recommend to reject the plea. Explain: I accepted the help plea and together started to search the witch. We found this healer/witch. But she wanted to meet Hlormar at Caldera within 3 days. OK. We wait and wait but she does not appeared. Liar as all Eva. Nice. I decided to cancel the quest and enter the nearest Mages guild to travel between town. When we both arrived in the new town the stupid barbarian asked me to back and wait another 3 days the witch. My answer was No...and, and he said something like –Die, scum - and attacked me. He was not problem for the brave. But all around officers of Mages guild attacked me also. They were no problem for the mighty brave but I met the danger to use no more this handy transport.
Arkngthand, Molag Amur region – Hope You know how to enter. No? Then stand 5 meters before the door and turn 90 degree left. You will see strange lever. OK? Very good. When You enter the cave do not hurry for Dwemer puzzle box (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Dwemer_puzzle_box) in Cells of Hollow Hand. First of all there are two Cells. Now start carefully go down. After 3-5 steps turn around. Yes, the Cells of Hallow Hand is before You. Enter it. Her You will find the box in question not in another Cells.
I did about 60 quests just to enjoy without any plans.
Basta! I will concentrate on the main ones..


Done main quests:
1. Report to Spymaster
Antabolis informant
Gra Muzgob informant
Vivec informants
Zainsubani informant
Meet Sul-Matuul


Very strange:
In Balmora when I move up-down between Mages and Fighters guilds some strange note appeared from nothin before me concerning the Six House and Dagoth?
Any idea?


The game is very nice. BTW I upgrade my video card from 128 MB to 512 MB. Sadly I wanted 1-2 GB memory but my motherboard refused to accept this volume.
OK. Soon I will change and motherboard with new one.
Now the game moments ..Loading new areas... are shorter..

yoga
20-06-2012, 04:11 PM
In some cave Illobi i was virused by DRAIN ATRIBUTE !!

I have no cure potion and dunno how to create this potion or where to beg for help.

sob..sob

:wall:

Mighty Midget
20-06-2012, 05:13 PM
Head over to the nearest temple or alchemist garage sale.

If a disease, first get a Cure Common/Blight Disease potion or go to a temple, pay a coin and get the cure.
If it's a Damage Attribute spell, you'll need a Dispel spell (I think).
If the stats don't return to their full values, get a Restore [attribute] potion from your favourite alchemist or use a Restore spell.

yoga
20-06-2012, 06:58 PM
Head over to the nearest temple or alchemist garage sale.

If a disease, first get a Cure Common/Blight Disease potion or go to a temple, pay a coin and get the cure.
If it's a Damage Attribute spell, you'll need a Dispel spell (I think).
If the stats don't return to their full values, get a Restore [attribute] potion from your favourite alchemist or use a Restore spell.

:palm:

Merci, dear Mighty Midget,

I'll try all Your advices.
:rolleyes:

Mighty Midget
20-06-2012, 08:22 PM
If enchantment is your thing then here's a neat solution that is not cheating or anything.

Needed:
Any soulgem with any soul.
Have an expensive ring or similar. It should hold the spell.
Know a Restore Attribute spell. It doesn't matter which attribute, any is good.

Enchant the ring with Restore [all attributes], 1 point, 1 second (or more if your gem and item can hold it) when cast.

Japo
20-06-2012, 11:58 PM
If it's a Damage Attribute spell, you'll need a Dispel spell (I think).
If the stats don't return to their full values, get a Restore [attribute] potion from your favourite alchemist or use a Restore spell.

I'm not sure Dispel would undo a permanent damage, I think it would only dispel temporary drainings, but I haven't checked.

Restore spells for every attribute are a must-have, in my opinion. And if you aren't a very good mage you can buy easier versions from an spell maker instead of "Circinate" spells. For example the usual "Circinate" restore attribute spells recover 5-20 points each one of 30 seconds, which means they'll recover around 375 points, and you will never lose that many of course. These spells seem to cost 19 magic points. But I had made restore spells for 19-20 points during one single second, which is also more than you'll need in almost all occasions (you could cast it twice if necessary, which is unlikely), and they cost one single magic point.

Potions are better for quantitative effects when you brew them yourself, and a high alchemy skill rating and a fortified intelligence can get you absurdly powerful potions, like for example levitating fast as shit for several minutes. But for restoring four points of a damaged attribute, spells are handier.

@Yoga, I don't think Hunvagy said anything about ebony armor? As I already said you can't use the best heavy armor without getting super human strength. And the lesser heavy armor (dwemer, imperial, etc) is less protective than the light armor you already had, not to mention still very heavy. And if you have a high rating in light armor skill and a low one on heavy armor skill, you will be less protected with the heavier armor. Check the numbers in your inventory.

In my game I've spent most of the time looting, training and leveling up. I've made very few quests, and I'm at the entry ranks in all factions except the Mages' Guild (where I'm not much higher). Now I'll start exploring the expansions and the factions that I didn't explore in my previous game.

yoga
21-06-2012, 05:26 AM
Pls see the real situation.
The cave name is Inlobi.
The bad man Dagoth Gares cursed me with his dying breath.

hunvagy
21-06-2012, 05:51 AM
Pls see the real situation.
The cave name is Inlobi.
The bad man Dagoth Gares cursed me with his dying breath.

The Corprus is part of the main quest line. You have to continue it to find a cure.

yoga
21-06-2012, 09:04 AM
The Corprus is part of the main quest line. You have to continue it to find a cure.
:3:
Sure, it is. I know.

BTW, i cured 2 of attributes: Intelligence and Speed.
I found in my sack Restore potions.

Nice!

@Japo
Senior, I speak about weight of the ebony armor not about the factors Light, Medium and Heavy armors.
:D

May i understand that YOU want to play all possible quests?
But they are more than 1000 i suppose?
..and find all valuable stuff?
No, one year will be not en. for such giant task.

Pls. do not forget that Oblivion and Skyrim are waiting for us and maybe Bethesda will create new game - some Red Mountains or like..
If both above mentioned games are like Morrowind we have to play Bethesda games till the end of the world.
:smugulon:

ha ha ha

the brave want to meet live opponents in multiply game.

possible?

hunvagy
21-06-2012, 01:01 PM
Nope, TES has always been single player. If you want multi, you'll have to wait until TES Online.

yoga
21-06-2012, 05:50 PM
Nope, TES has always been single player. If you want multi, you'll have to wait until TES Online.


OK, will wait for online TES.

Dear Hunvagy, You played the game.

Pls what was your sign, class and some more details if i may politely ask You?

...
Last news but good news.
The brave is cured already. Some magician gave me cure potion and voilaaaa.

Japo
21-06-2012, 07:50 PM
@Japo
Senior, I speak about weight of the ebony armor not about the factors Light, Medium and Heavy armors.

Yes but the protection you get from armor depends on your skill, and the light/medium/heavy "factors" dictate what skill is used. Glass and Dark Brotherhood use your light armor skill, and you have 71 which is a good rating, and it's major so it helps you level up. What rating do you have in heavy armor? That would be a misc skill for you.

My point is that you might be less protected with an ebony cuirass than with the Dark Brotherhood one, depending on your skills. You can check in your inventory.

May i understand that YOU want to play all possible quests?
But they are more than 1000 i suppose?
..and find all valuable stuff?
No, one year will be not en. for such giant task.

Pls. do not forget that Oblivion and Skyrim are waiting for us and maybe Bethesda will create new game - some Red Mountains or like..
If both above mentioned games are like Morrowind we have to play Bethesda games till the end of the world.
:smugulon:

ha ha ha

Hahaha. Not really, I now have almost all the artifacts I wanted. But yes I want to explore some factions and Mournhold and Solstein. And I can be playing this for a long time, get tired, go back to it... It took me many months the first time. And the next game waiting for me is Civilization V. I'll be interested in your experience with Oblivion and Skyrim.

You can bet anything Bethesda will create more TES games, you won't lose it. :)

Last news but good news.
The brave is cured already. Some magician gave me cure potion and voilaaaa.

In Tel Fyr, right?

Actually the Corprus disease is a great opportunity to get super human strength and endurance for free, if you want. And if you have restore spells for the other attributes.

hunvagy
22-06-2012, 05:48 AM
OK, will wait for online TES.

Dear Hunvagy, You played the game.

Pls what was your sign, class and some more details if i may politely ask You?

...
Last news but good news.
The brave is cured already. Some magician gave me cure potion and voilaaaa.

First through I felt masochistic enough, so I made a Nord Spellsword, around level 30 or so I still didn't have enough magicka to do a fireball xD

I usually play Nord, Redguard or in some cases Breton. Don't really like the other races, I have a natural abhorring against all kinds of elves (thank you DnD) and since the Dwemer are extinct, can't play dwarf.

Signs are interesting. With my mage I went for the Apprentice, for more magicka, but with the Nord and the Redguard I usually go for Tower (that 50 pts knock spell is really nice) or Lady.

Stats.. I don't really remember anymore. I know that I was Archmage of the mage's guild, after I beat the crap out of the current Archmage in the Vivec Arena. I was in the Thieves' guild, but for reasons of the guilds, had to stop at a low rank, since I advanced in the Fighter's Guild. Was also in House Hlaalu, had my little egg mine, my mansion. Didn't advance the main storyline after that though, I went to Mournhold and finished that, then sailed over to Solstheim. I was toting the full Tribunal Armor, both blades of Almalexia and some other trinkets. One of the weapon I made for myself was an ebony longsword with on hit Paralyze 10ft radius xD

As I wrote, I never finish TES games. In fact Skyrim is a first, I actually am done with the main quest, not that it means the game is over or anything :) Especially now, that the 1.6 patch introduced fighting from horseback. Can't wait for Dawnguard, getting a perk tree for mah werewolf will be nifty, and also crossbows \o/

yoga
22-06-2012, 11:32 AM
Yes but the protection you get from armor depends on your skill, and the light/medium/heavy "factors" dictate what skill is used. Glass and Dark Brotherhood use your light armor skill, and you have 71 which is a good rating, and it's major so it helps you level up. What rating do you have in heavy armor? That would be a misc skill for you.

My point is that you might be less protected with an ebony cuirass than with the Dark Brotherhood one, depending on your skills. You can check in your inventory.



Hahaha. Not really, I now have almost all the artifacts I wanted. But yes I want to explore some factions and Mournhold and Solstein. And I can be playing this for a long time, get tired, go back to it... It took me many months the first time. And the next game waiting for me is Civilization V. I'll be interested in your experience with Oblivion and Skyrim.

You can bet anything Bethesda will create more TES games, you won't lose it. :)



In Tel Fyr, right?

Actually the Corprus disease is a great opportunity to get super human strength and endurance for free, if you want. And if you have restore spells for the other attributes.

:)
Yes, in Tel Fyr, of course.
I restored all my attributes..

I will use this post to said some "secrets" about this famous cave Ilonibi.

==
Again do not forget Levitate spell.

But one may lost orientation very, very soon in this cave with 5 sections.
Blackened Heart
Carcass of the Saint
Marowak's Spine
Soul's Rattle
Tainted Marrow


Do not enter Tainted Marrow.
Your target is Soul;s Spine.


Well, even You do own map You will not find easy the exit.


--So, yoga, what to do...?


Pls follow my advice.


You enter some section and this section is correct. Then You( i ) back in previous section and put down before the door some bottle. Then again enter in correct section and after the door repeat bottle operation. This way You will keep tracking of your advance..
You will meet the bad Dagoth G.. and when you return to the exit You will be sure that the door with bottle is the right way.
Remember, the exit is near nice small water fall. Have to use Levitate spell to reach the exit...
This method was used by ancient Greek hero. He used a twine advancing in the labyrinth. I had not twine but had many bottles. Yes, You may collect again these bottles.



Hope You understand my advice. Merci.

yoga
22-06-2012, 04:25 PM
First through I felt masochistic enough, so I made a Nord Spellsword, around level 30 or so I still didn't have enough magicka to do a fireball xD

I usually play Nord, Redguard or in some cases Breton. Don't really like the other races, I have a natural abhorring against all kinds of elves (thank you DnD) and since the Dwemer are extinct, can't play dwarf.

Signs are interesting. With my mage I went for the Apprentice, for more magicka, but with the Nord and the Redguard I usually go for Tower (that 50 pts knock spell is really nice) or Lady.

Stats.. I don't really remember anymore. I know that I was Archmage of the mage's guild, after I beat the crap out of the current Archmage in the Vivec Arena. I was in the Thieves' guild, but for reasons of the guilds, had to stop at a low rank, since I advanced in the Fighter's Guild. Was also in House Hlaalu, had my little egg mine, my mansion. Didn't advance the main storyline after that though, I went to Mournhold and finished that, then sailed over to Solstheim. I was toting the full Tribunal Armor, both blades of Almalexia and some other trinkets. One of the weapon I made for myself was an ebony longsword with on hit Paralyze 10ft radius xD

As I wrote, I never finish TES games. In fact Skyrim is a first, I actually am done with the main quest, not that it means the game is over or anything :) Especially now, that the 1.6 patch introduced fighting from horseback. Can't wait for Dawnguard, getting a perk tree for mah werewolf will be nifty, and also crossbows \o/

:3:
Thank You for sharing your experiences with TES games especially Morrowind.
I am surprised to know that
..I never finish TES games..????

Very strange for good gamer like You!!.
I can not explain such behavior..
One more word if You do not mind:

You know the old RP game Betrayer at Krondor. This is my best favorite till now.
Would be so kind tell me what of both game is better: Morrowind or Krondor?
Pls do not compare the graphic, control etc. but only intrigue.
Because i start to think that Morrowind is better. But i respect any another opinion.
Danke.


@Master, Kmonster and twillight

Hey, amigos, do YOU played Morrowind?
Where are You? Holli-days? Sea Beaches? or just sleeping in these hot days?

37 C degrees in small, sunny and lovely Bulgaria.
Thank you, thank you good man who invented the air conditioner..

@Japo
So sorry i do not like so much the games from Civilization saga.
If i remember correctly Dune 2 was the only such game i played. Wait, wait..Master of Magic also.
One starts with humble hut to create giant empire and starts battle with neighbor countries..
:smile2:

hard task before me:
-To free Mehlo from prison of Ministry of Truth in Vivec Complex..

yoga
22-06-2012, 06:39 PM
:3:
Thank You for sharing your experiences with TES games especially Morrowind.
I am surprised to know that
..I never finish TES games..????

Very strange for good gamer like You!!.
I can not explain such behavior..
One more word if You do not mind:

You know the old RP game Betrayer at Krondor. This is my best favorite till now.
Would be so kind tell me what of both game is better: Morrowind or Krondor?
Pls do not compare the graphic, control etc. but only intrigue.
Because i start to think that Morrowind is better. But i respect any another opinion.
Danke.


@Master, Kmonster and twillight

Hey, amigos, do YOU played Morrowind?
Where are You? Holli-days? Sea Beaches? or just sleeping in these hot days?

37 C degrees in small, sunny and lovely Bulgaria.
Thank you, thank you good man who invented the air conditioner..

@Japo
So sorry i do not like so much the games from Civilization saga.
If i remember correctly Dune 2 was the only such game i played. Wait, wait..Master of Magic also.
One starts with humble hut to create giant empire and starts battle with neighbor countries..
:smile2:

hard task before me:
-To free Mehlo from prison of Ministry of Truth in Vivec Complex..

:D
...
(cont.)
Inspired of previous picture of well respected Japo , when he showed dead corps of 8-9 persons i decided to start similar action in Ministry of Truth starting to kill any guards. They are strong but the brave is more strong. Well i killed all the guards between the first door and Prison Keep.
So i opened the last door and met lady Mehlo..
-Suprise!!
She refused to deal with me cause i am bad outlaw.

Hmmm. OK. I started very risk plan. I took all keys and place down the keys before the first door outside but no any valuable stuff, back down, jumped to Temple again. Then wait for the guard, dully paid penalty of 2080 golds and back up to Mehlo. Now i used again the keys and visit again the lady but as a loyal citizen. Ha ha ha
I took 4 cuirases X 7000 gods each = 28 000 golds. Even redused i will take about 5-6 000 golds.
Yes, the brave is hooligan of course.

..But In love and war all is allowed...

yoga
23-06-2012, 11:39 AM
Yes, i did the above missions

7. Six House Base
8. Corprus cure
9. Mehla Miro and the lost prophecies

@Japo

I want to discuss my problem with spell cast.

With button F1 i add the next spells:
1-Summon least Bone-walk
2-Summon Daedra
3-Summon Skeleton
as for example 5,6 and 7
never mind
no one work
I pressed the mouse button, my both black hands tried to cast but nothing..
And warning message appeared: Bla bla yr spell kaput. Why?
Cant idea where i am wrong!
Maybe my mage possibilities are low?
Rats!!

Fireball and Toxic storm are perfect spells.

Japo
23-06-2012, 06:49 PM
In the list of spells where you choose them from, each is followed by two numbers. The first one is the cost in spell points. If you don't have enough the spell will fail. The second number is the chance of success. Even if you have enough spell points, you have that chance out of 100% of casting that spell successfully. To increase this chance, increase the magic skill for those spells (Conjuration).

yoga
24-06-2012, 07:17 AM
Muchos grasias, Japo.

Yes, my Conjuration is low. Only 20.
I will do my best to increase this "factor" Ha ha.

OFF
BTW, my congratulations for your football victory yesterday.
Spain-France 2:0.
Bravo!!

hunvagy
25-06-2012, 06:17 AM
:3:
Thank You for sharing your experiences with TES games especially Morrowind.
I am surprised to know that
..I never finish TES games..????

Very strange for good gamer like You!!.
I can not explain such behavior..
One more word if You do not mind:

You know the old RP game Betrayer at Krondor. This is my best favorite till now.
Would be so kind tell me what of both game is better: Morrowind or Krondor?
Pls do not compare the graphic, control etc. but only intrigue.
Because i start to think that Morrowind is better. But i respect any another opinion.
Danke.




I never finish them, because strictly speaking, there is no end. Plus I usually get so distracted that I sink 1-200 hours into walking around, next thing I notice the next TES game is out.

As for which is better, Krondor or Morrowind. Both are good in their own category. Krondor is a story driven game, Morrowind is more sandbox-y go where you want type. As I said earlier, the main plot always played second fiddle in TES games to exploration, guilds and side quests. But I can tell you which I like more: the TES games. Just so much to do and see, without having to complete the game.

yoga
25-06-2012, 01:21 PM
I never finish them, because strictly speaking, there is no end. Plus I usually get so distracted that I sink 1-200 hours into walking around, next thing I notice the next TES game is out.

As for which is better, Krondor or Morrowind. Both are good in their own category. Krondor is a story driven game, Morrowind is more sandbox-y go where you want type. As I said earlier, the main plot always played second fiddle in TES games to exploration, guilds and side quests. But I can tell you which I like more: the TES games. Just so much to do and see, without having to complete the game.

:hihihi:
Merci, Hunvagy.

I would like to add that I abs. agree now with your opinion conc. Krondor and Morrowind.

Krondor was my first and gentle love till Morrowind is ... have no words to explain but You understand me..

I did more quests and i think i see the end of the game:

- The path of Incarnate
- Redoran Hortador
- Hlaali Hortador
- Telavnni Hortador

+
- Urshilaki Nerevarine
- Ahemmusa Nerevarine

Now I am playing Erabenimsum Nerevarine

OFF
I would like to salute Caro Capo with great football victory of Italy-England 4:2..

Capo
25-06-2012, 09:59 PM
Yea, those Englishmen cant play football :max:

Anyway Krondor sucks :whistling:

yoga
26-06-2012, 11:07 AM
Yea, those Englishmen cant play football :max:

Anyway Krondor sucks :whistling:

:hihihi:
Si, si Signore Capo, You are absolutely correct with both above remarks.

(pls. do YOU started Krondor - answer me very silent psshhh.?:hihihi:)

I hope the lovely and sunny Italy to be champ 0f Europe.
Just smash down Germany and voillaaaa!
Sry, Gnadige Kmonster.:bleh1:

yoga
26-06-2012, 11:19 AM
@Japo

My first problem to discuss.

Well, i do one of the last main quests of the game, namely
I have to find a bribe for some man. But the girl is slave in Tel Aruh. Moreover the lady who keep the slaves wants expensive shoes, shirt and skirt for the slave girl.
I did my best and found shoes and shirt but no skirt.
May i replace the skirt with a nice robe?
What a paradox? The world saver aka the brave to ask for woman dress? !!

ha ha

I think that after this quest i will be ready to meet Dagoth Yr.

But i will do some additional but nice missions.
:whistling:

level 33
money 150 k
C.capacity 450
armor 126

I am using glass armor now.

Japo
26-06-2012, 06:09 PM
I don't think you can replace the skirt with a robe or anything else, but according to the wiki, the slave driver must have mentioned that you can buy those clothes in Tel Mora. There's boat transport between Tel Aruhn and Tel Mora. You'll be asked about another last thing after you get the clothes, but you'll be able to buy it in Tel Aruhn.

LOL

yoga
26-06-2012, 08:48 PM
I don't think you can replace the skirt with a robe or anything else, but according to the wiki, the slave driver must have mentioned that you can buy those clothes in Tel Mora. There's boat transport between Tel Aruhn and Tel Mora. You'll be asked about another last thing after you get the clothes, but you'll be able to buy it in Tel Aruhn.

LOL

:OK:
Yes, You are correct again..

No, no the brave have no time for boat.
Brave bravely swim all middle distances.
ha ha
Note i am ex-sailor!!

Y'now, i feel little sad because i approached the end of the best game i played for so long years with RPG.

BTW, i visited this island Solstheim.
It is located northwest of Khuul.
Snowy place with many bears and wolves, Skaal vilage and more.
I do not see some very interesting and different from the rest of the game.
Maybe this is Bloodmoon addon?

OFF
Do You think Spain will win Spain-Portugal match?
I hope.
I like Fernando Torres and Fabregas..

Japo
26-06-2012, 09:53 PM
Yep Solstheim is the Bloodmoon expansion. I think you can get a quest in the fort and you can end up becoming a werewolf. Gotta try it some day.

Spain is el número uno :)

hunvagy
27-06-2012, 05:49 AM
Yep Solstheim is the Bloodmoon expansion. I think you can get a quest in the fort and you can end up becoming a werewolf. Gotta try it some day.

Spain is el número uno :)

Sadly Morrowind werewolf is pretty badly done. Unlike the Daggerfall version, you transform every bloody night. But yes, it is one of the paths you can take to finish Bloodmoon.

yoga
27-06-2012, 08:10 AM
Sadly Morrowind werewolf is pretty badly done. Unlike the Daggerfall version, you transform every bloody night. But yes, it is one of the paths you can take to finish Bloodmoon.


:whistling:
Hmmm..some day i will try werewolf.

But now the brave is in big trouble. No levitation potions at all.
I need at least 4-5 pieces. Have no idea how to create or where to buy.
I remember about some ring or like for telekineza but I do not know where it is? Sold or lost. Stupid me!!
sob..sob..
I have to do one of the last quests -Telvanni Hortador and this potion is needed.

3 of the persons are in very high places and levitation is abs. required.

..
Spain is Primera.:hihihi:

11 hours left only to the match.
When finish this quest i will be ready to start attack to Dagoth Ur at Red Mountains.

Japo
28-06-2012, 12:07 AM
You can make potions of levitation from the plumes of the cliff racers, from the roots of the thorny trama plant (found in the desert Ashlands), and from the flowers of the coda plant (found in swamps in the Bitter Coast region). You can probably buy potions and scrolls in many places, but I couldn't tell you now.

Telekinesis isn't the same as levitation, it's for interacting with objects (picking up, opening doors and boxes) at a distance.

Long match with no goals but Spain is victorious again. :)

yoga
28-06-2012, 07:15 AM
You can make potions of levitation from the plumes of the cliff racers, from the roots of the thorny trama plant (found in the desert Ashlands), and from the flowers of the coda plant (found in swamps in the Bitter Coast region). You can probably buy potions and scrolls in many places, but I couldn't tell you now.

Telekinesis isn't the same as levitation, it's for interacting with objects (picking up, opening doors and boxes) at a distance.

Long match with no goals but Spain is victorious again. :)

:smile2:
Thank You very much, dear Japo for detailed info.

Yes, see my word in above post:

Primera

ha ha ha

Just one final battle and YOU will grab the cup.

My sincere congrats!!!
España para vivir!
:OK:

Capo
28-06-2012, 03:09 PM
Ot: Spain is the most boring team in the history of the game :dislike:

yoga
29-06-2012, 10:47 AM
Ot: Spain is the most boring team in the history of the game :dislike:

:smile2:
Ha ha ha

First: My congratulations for Caro Capo for the victory! Great Balotelli!

Second: Poor yoga. Why? Because both teams are my favorites - Spain and Italy.
What to do?

OK.

Let the game be fair and nice and let the better one win.
I will be neutral now..

.Gaming:

Gladly i was happy to find and buy in Vivec complex 3 levitation potions.
More 3 and i will be ready to start..

:D

Japo
29-06-2012, 05:55 PM
Italy's actually a little scary. Spain is very good at moving the ball, but usually disappoints when it comes to scoring, and is ridiculously shy before the enemy goal. Italy gets bad press for being very defensive (at least here), but she usually knows better how to make the most of the time she's near the enemy goal.

yoga
29-06-2012, 07:06 PM
Italy's actually a little scary. Spain is very good at moving the ball, but usually disappoints when it comes to scoring, and is ridiculously shy before the enemy goal. Italy gets bad press for being very defensive (at least here), but she usually knows better how to make the most of the time she's near the enemy goal.
:3:
Hmmm.
I am unprejudiced because i am not Spanish nor Italian. And i like both teams.
Yes, Italy is very clever team, who controls all phases of the game. They play very good in defense. Buffon is nice goal keeper. Balotelli, this bad boy, erupted. Pirlo has good time.

But Spain has Fabregas and Torres. Also very good defense line. This team has good spirit because of many wins.

My prognosis:
1:1 or 0:0 in regular time.
Same result in the continuations.
Then penalties.
Here i am helpless.
;)

kmonster
29-06-2012, 10:47 PM
Italy actually plays very offensive football at this tournament. They play 4-4-2 (most other teams use 4-5-1) and got lots of chances to score a goal, far more than spain.

Spain is actually the most defensive team, their system is very defensive, passing the ball left and right until the enemy falls asleep and makes a mistake, as long as the ball is kept in possession the opponent can't score a goal.

I guess spain will win, offense wins games but defense wins tournaments.

yoga
30-06-2012, 03:22 PM
Italy actually plays very offensive football at this tournament. They play 4-4-2 (most other teams use 4-5-1) and got lots of chances to score a goal, far more than spain.

Spain is actually the most defensive team, their system is very defensive, passing the ball left and right until the enemy falls asleep and makes a mistake, as long as the ball is kept in possession the opponent can't score a goal.

I guess spain will win, offense wins games but defense wins tournaments.

:D
Hmmm.
Very interesting opinion.

But gnadige Kmonster, be fair and confess that Your opinion against Italy is because they won against Your country?
True or false?
:3:
I think that both teams play similar football.
Spain likes to control the ball, Italy is very unpredictable team.
But let our good friends Caro Capo and Senior Japo said us who will be winner.
Anyway they are good football and ........ game specialists.

yoga
30-06-2012, 07:02 PM
:hihihi:

Japo
30-06-2012, 08:15 PM
I know almost nothing about football, I have only watched one match of this cup (Spain vs. Portugal), and I was bored by the match and busy talking to friends and looking at the waitress. The stuff about Italy being very defensive is just something journalists over here have been traditionally saying for years (catenaccio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio)). It's entirely possible that they're playing a different style in this cup. I haven't watched any game of theirs. But I'll watch the final.

We should split these posts into a new Euro Cup thread. :) We usually had those when Tulac, Overlord/Dino and others were active here.

yoga
01-07-2012, 01:30 PM
I know almost nothing about football, I have only watched one match of this cup (Spain vs. Portugal), and I was bored by the match and busy talking to friends and looking at the waitress. The stuff about Italy being very defensive is just something journalists over here have been traditionally saying for years (catenaccio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio)). It's entirely possible that they're playing a different style in this cup. I haven't watched any game of theirs. But I'll watch the final.

We should split these posts into a new Euro Cup thread. :) We usually had those when Tulac, Overlord/Dino and others were active here.


OK.

But...
Something is wrong at all!

.......
I visited the three Great Houses and have been pronounced as their Hortator to fulfill the Fourth Trial.
To satisfy the Fifth Trial, i traveled to the four Ashlander Camps and have been recognized as the Nerevarine.

So why this lady Danso Indules in the Temple tunnel in Vivec complex does not arrange my meeting with the Archcanon? Moreover she told me i am outlaw and my religion is false?
Without my meeting with the Archcanon I am unable to continue further!!

Any help or advise will be welcome.
Thanks for Your time.

brave

Japo
01-07-2012, 10:13 PM
4-0 :)

Yoga, if I remember right that priest told you that you have to infiltrate the temple secretly to talk to the Archcanon because the whole thing was being done behind the Ordinators' backs and you were still persona non grata as Nerevandine, but even so the Archcanon wanted to talk to you. What does your journal say?

yoga
02-07-2012, 06:01 AM
4-0 :)

Yoga, if I remember right that priest told you that you have to infiltrate the temple secretly to talk to the Archcanon because the whole thing was being done behind the Ordinators' backs and you were still persona non grata as Nerevandine, but even so the Archcanon wanted to talk to you. What does your journal say?

:lol:
My sincere congrats!
Bravo!
Caro Capo, pls do not cry, my friend. Always we have second chance.

..I will explain in details my problem.
This problem breaks my hearth.
Pls, wait a bit.

brave

yoga
02-07-2012, 09:07 AM
Hi,
If You do not mind i quote my next steps:

.....................


Finding the Archcanon

Meet with Danso Indules in the Temple Canton (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_Temple) of Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_%28city%29), in the central exterior tunnel. Danso says that Archcanon Saryoni is waiting for you in his private quarters in the East Chapel of the High Fane. Once you enter the High Fane, you quickly discover that the Archcanon is actually behind a locked door (level 45). Unfortunately there's an Ordinator standing nearby which means that none but the most stealthy of characters may wish to try it. There is a back door from the Hall of Wisdom and, although the door is still locked (level 50), there's no Ordinator on watch.

Talking with the Archcanon

Once inside the Archcanon's office, you can talk with Tholer Saryoni. After a brief talk, you are given the choice to visit the god Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_%28god%29), who will hopefully shed some more light on the current situation. When you say yes, you are given two keys: for the Archcanon's office and the Palace of Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Palace_of_Vivec). You are warned that the Ordinators are still not under Tholer's control.
..................................
(end of the quotation)


But Danso Indules - this is lady in the tunnel, refused to talk with me and said Goodbye!


Then i reached Tholer Saryoni from save back door from the Hall of Wisdom. No Ordinators around me.


He said:
You are heretic.
No duties for you.


....

and i attach my last journal records.



My situation is:
-To visit Rome and not see the pope.-

Capo
02-07-2012, 03:17 PM
:lol:
My sincere congrats!
Bravo!
Caro Capo, pls do not cry, my friend. Always we have second chance.


No problem, they are never tired, i dont know his this is possible, sovranatural.

Japo
02-07-2012, 07:52 PM
Finding the Archcanon

Meet with Danso Indules in the Temple Canton (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_Temple) of Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_%28city%29), in the central exterior tunnel. Danso says that Archcanon Saryoni is waiting for you in his private quarters in the East Chapel of the High Fane. Once you enter the High Fane, you quickly discover that the Archcanon is actually behind a locked door (level 45). Unfortunately there's an Ordinator standing nearby which means that none but the most stealthy of characters may wish to try it. There is a back door from the Hall of Wisdom and, although the door is still locked (level 50), there's no Ordinator on watch.

Talking with the Archcanon

Once inside the Archcanon's office, you can talk with Tholer Saryoni. After a brief talk, you are given the choice to visit the god Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Vivec_%28god%29), who will hopefully shed some more light on the current situation. When you say yes, you are given two keys: for the Archcanon's office and the Palace of Vivec (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Palace_of_Vivec). You are warned that the Ordinators are still not under Tholer's control.

Where did you quote that from?

I have loaded an old save from my previous game, and these are the key journal entries:

18 Heartfire (Day 702)
Nibani Maesa says I must go to @Vivec#'s high priest, Saryoni, and demand to speak with the false god @Vivec#. She says @Kagrenac's tools# are the keys to the @riddle# of the Sixth and @Seventh Trial#s, and that I must get them from @Vivec#.

19 Heartfire (Day 703)
The archcanon is in his @private quarters#, and he wants to speak with me, but I must @avoid confrontations# with the @Ordinators# at all costs, because spilling the blood of @faith#ful servants of the @Temple# will make a reconciliation more difficult. The archcanon has spoken with the @High Fane# @Ordinators#, but if I am a wanted criminal, they may try to arrest me.

19 Heartfire (Day 703)
Archcanon Saryoni has suggested that the @Temple#'s policy concerning the @Nerevarine# might change, and has arranged a private meeting with Lord @Vivec#. He gave me two keys: one to the @private back entrance# to his quarters, the other to a locked entrance to Lord @Vivec#'s palace. He says the @Ordinators# are not under his control, and asks that I avoid them. Lord @Vivec# is expecting me, and perhaps I shouldn't keep him waiting.

The second entry should have been added to your journal after you speak with Danso Indules. What are his exacts words on why he doesn't want to talk?

The first entry should be optional, you shouldn't need Nibani Maesa to tell you to go to Vivec, because you already received a letter from the Archcanon before (right?). I don't think keeping that letter is necessary either.

In any case it might be a good idea to go back to the Urshilaku camp to talk to the wise woman. In case you have missed a previous trial she might tell you what's there left to do. Ask her about every trial (1st - 7th).

If you get frustrated here's the walkthrough for this part: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hortator_and_Nerevarine

yoga
03-07-2012, 09:33 AM
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hortator_and_Nerevarine

This is the link used for my quotation.

But first my thanks for Your kind help.

I will immediately follow your directions included in above post.
:3:

Off
Do You know the game Dungeon Hack?
EOB trilogy like?

Japo
03-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Do You know the game Dungeon Hack?
EOB trilogy like?

I haven't played those.

yoga
05-07-2012, 04:32 PM
I haven't played those.

BTW, I passed DH for 2 days as Cleric.

But.. instead i visited the Urshilaki camp twice and spoke with the Wise woman, she did not tell me to go to Vivec.
Yes, I have 3 notes named the Stranger but still this Archcanon Saryoni said that the Nerevarine politics is not changed!!

I passed the all four tribes and they again confirmed as their Nerevarine.

I will cont. my attempts.

hopeless brave:sick:

Japo
05-07-2012, 05:47 PM
You must have missed something. But if you become too frustrated, or this is an actual bug, you can advance the quest with the Journal console command (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Journal). But use a new save file afterwards.

yoga
14-07-2012, 06:25 PM
You must have missed something. But if you become too frustrated, or this is an actual bug, you can advance the quest with the Journal console command (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Journal). But use a new save file afterwards.

:hihihi:

Hi, again,

I would like to advise You, that thanks to valuable help of kind and competent señor Japo i continue the game.

I passed the Fifth Trial (my fail was that i spoke with the Wise Woman in Urshulaki camp instead of Khan).
The correct way was to speak with Khan first and then with woman.
Done.
Then i visited god Vivec in the Temple and he directed me to eliminate bad Dagoth Yr.

The happy brave is going to bed now.

Good night everybody, good night.

humble brave
who never forgets the helper.

yoga
15-07-2012, 06:12 PM
:smile2:

The brave is pleased to said he finished the game Morrowind.
I am little tired after the battle with Dagoth Yr and its robot but after a while i will be ready to answer any question.

But first i want to said

Muchas Gracias Señor JAPO!!!!

Without your kind, valuable and competent help brave will never beat the game.

With Caro Capo and Master Scatty YOU are one of the best staff members of AB for me.

God Bless You!

Many thanks of everyone who supports yoga in this game.

Thanks a lot AB !

the grateful and happy brave aka yoga
:)

yoga
16-07-2012, 06:14 AM
I would like to share some thoughts concerning the nice game Morrowind:

First, no need to eat.
No time limits as FO.
No speed runs as Legend of Grimrock and Prince of Persia 3.
Very, very good graphic!
Freedom of the movements, not monotone corridors as Legend of Grimrock, EOB 1,2,3.
Nice changes of climate - terrible sand storms. Wow.
Many missions - over 200.

Simply, I recommend this game...
You can trust me, i do play and know many RPG.

-So, yoga, what next?
Ty for the Q.

I dunno..

My careful investigations show that my system will not run the next games:

- The Witcher
- The Witcher 2
- Oblivion
- Skyrim

The problem point is CPU Speed.

You are right as usually, dear Hunvagy.

But before me are:

Capo
Arcanum

Smiling Spectre
The Summoning and Dusk of the Gods,(Can not find still)

Lulu_Jane
-Planescape: Torment

hunvagy
Drakensang
Drakensang: The River of Time

RSS
Darkstone
Temple of Elemental Evil: A Classic Greyhawk Adventure

Hmmm.... LoG is....

Japo
16-07-2012, 09:39 AM
You can always play Morrowind some more, specially the Tribunal and Bloodmoon expansions if you haven't beat them yet.

yoga
16-07-2012, 01:51 PM
You can always play Morrowind some more, specially the Tribunal and Bloodmoon expansions if you haven't beat them yet.


True!
After my victory i realized that the game not end and i am free to do what i want.
I think i will do 2 additional main quests

1. Sleepers awake
2. Yagrun Bagarn

maybe i will try to kill these both leader of the goblin army even i die after...

and try to explore more the island of Solstheim.

Definitely there is a work to do. Dagoth Yr was piece of cake for me.

Forget to tell i finished the game being
level 37
armor 142

I will stop playing now Legend of Grimrock because more and mote it not enjoy me. Sorry Caro Capo.

yoga
16-07-2012, 05:36 PM
..to kill these both leader of the goblin army even i die after...

Ha ha ha,

I did these both difficult for me quests:

- Two goblin army leaders were killed.
- Two goblin army trainers were killed also.

They are located in sewer system.

Now i have armor 145 and was equipped with the very defective Wraithguard and Sunder.
Especially the last weapon was deadly for above opps.

I think Morrowind is equal of 5 Mortal combat.
:3: