Jazz Jackrabbit 3d Demo

[quatroking]

Do you know where i can download it?
(the project started in 2000, but it was stopped. Now they have only a demo)

[wormpaul]

Nope..

Even never heard that there was a demo released :blink:

But why should they launch a demo without a game??? :whistle:

[quatroking]

. . . . i dunno. . . .

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by quatroking@Jan 26 2005, 03:42 PM
. . . . i dunno. . . .
But you're sure there is a demo??

[quatroking]

yes, i'am sure.
i have read it on a offical site:
Jazz jackrabbit 2 online (http://www.jazz2online.com)

In one of the faqs

[Omuletzu]

Keep it clean and warez free :rifle:

[JJXB]

nothing was uttered about warez and theres no space (only a demo of jj3d was released and the jj2online website has no warez on it) so where did you pull that remark from, wizard?

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Omuletzu@Jan 26 2005, 08:24 PM
Keep it clean and warez free :rifle:
Omeletzu CHILL DOWN!!!! :rifle:

There was totally no warez on that site..

It was just a great FAN site :sneaky:

[quatroking]

that "demo" is the uncomplete game, nothing more

[Omuletzu]

Originally posted by JJXB@Jan 26 2005, 11:46 PM
nothing was uttered about warez and theres no space (only a demo of jj3d was released and the jj2online website has no warez on it) so where did you pull that remark from, wizard?
Ahem...
If you really want to know:
Quatroking has already made a negative name for himself(talking about warez), so i thought i'd post a warning, WIZARD!


I always think before i post!

[wormpaul]

Plz stop with things like that..

Only do something when there is something really going on and when wanna warn people use PM for it..

So dont borther us with it :wall:

[Omuletzu]

Right now i have the authority around here.Until that changes, i say what goes and what doesn't!I am a moderator, and it is my job to keep the forums clean.Until told otherwise i will do my job!
I'm sorry if i am too strict, but these are the rules :rifle: :Titan:

[JJXB]

Originally posted by Omuletzu+Jan 27 2005, 03:13 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Omuletzu @ Jan 27 2005, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-JJXB@Jan 26 2005, 11:46 PM
nothing was uttered about warez and theres no space (only a demo of jj3d was released and the jj2online website has no warez on it) so where did you pull that remark from, wizard?
Ahem...
If you really want to know:
Quatroking has already made a negative name for himself(talking about warez), so i thought i'd post a warning, WIZARD!


I always think before i post! [/b][/quote]
excuse me? even if quatroking wanted to, there wouldn't be any way warez could fit logically into this thread so why mention it? ok you were trying to be careful but you were overzealous because you assumed warez would possibly be mentioned later on in the topic even though THERES NO ROOM. that clearly shows you weren't thinking right when you posted that. i am a member of a warez community but i never mention it here, thats how i know warez would never fit into this topic even if i wanted to talk about it. so don't jump the gun next time.

[Omuletzu]

1)Never judge my thinking unless you have serious arguments("there's no room" is not an argument!) If there's something i learned while moderating is that there's always room for warez talk and spam.I am opened to suggestion if your arguments are good.

2)Never give me orders! You are in no position to give me orders! I don't take orders from anybody other then the admins!

Now this is off topic and is wrong.Let it end here

[JJXB]

im not giving you orders, its more like a very useful piece of advice.
edit - explain how warez could be fitted in the topic then, if you can prove it can be fitted in then i will admit i was wrong about that. anyway, jumping the gun still isn't a good thing to do as it can make you look silly when it wasn't needed.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Omuletzu@Jan 27 2005, 03:45 PM

2)Never give me orders! You are in no position to give me orders! I don't take orders from anybody other then the admins!

Now this is off topic and is wrong.Let it end here
NOPE!!!!!!!!! :ranting:


As long as you're doing things wrong i wont be silenced....and if you wanna say that all in public like you're the almighty himself then you can be expected that something will fall wrong...

And at that point you were totally wrong...and i`m not an admin (and probally never be ) so you wont listen to me but dont feel like you're invernuable..

Not very friendly on a forum like this :wall: :wall:

:rifle:

[Omuletzu]

I am not invulnerable.If you have something to report, then please feel free to report me
Now let's get back on topic.PM me if you have something to tell me

[JJXB]

well, heres my last thought on the subject of you jumping the gun olumetzu:
http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~rah56/images/handy/images/flames.jpg

[Braindead]

ummm chill out guys... :sneaky:

On the topic of Jazz 3d demo, I don't think there was ever released a public beta as you can deduct from this question:

*
Q:* Will the Jazz community ever get to see the demo?
A:* Although WTG wants to release the demo, and Cliff Bleszinski (the owner of Jazz) has talked about distributing the game for free on the Internet, right now it is unlikely that we'll see Jazz 3 anytime soon. Before it could be released, the demo would have to be reprogrammed to eliminate the Unreal technology, or else WTG would be paying Epic a hefty $300,000 for use of their engine. It would take a great deal of time to do the reprogramming, and WTG is not interested in working on it right now. They are tied up with other projects, and working on Jazz 3 does not make them any money, so it has the least priority. There's a better possibility that Jazz 3 may be released as an Unreal or UT mod.

[Yamcha]

Please dont start a fight... calm down both.

[Omuletzu]

You guys are a few days late...

[wormpaul]

hehehe..

Were we fighting??

It's more like a good marriage...fighting but still loving :angel:

[N17R0]

Back on topic...
as far as I last remember about the Jazz3d (since I used to be an avid member of the community) was that there were some pics released of the first in-game screens when it was in development, but it never got to the point where it was complete enough to release an alpha by the time they cancelled it. I could be wrong, but the chances of an alpha, legit or leaked, is highly unlikely. Plus, as popular as Jazz2online is still, I never liked their community as much as Jazz2city.

[quatroking]

I have search hi and low, but i have still found nothing.
(and that demo is real,why they have screenshots then?)

[wormpaul]

I think they just all cancelled it..

[quatroking]

the full version is cancelled, i'am sure that the demo is alive.

[wormpaul]

If you ever found it..

Let me know :ok:

[quatroking]

warez....

[wormpaul]

Nice..

Use PM for such things next time :whistle:

[Draken]

Quote from the Jazz Jackrabbit 3D Website:

Q: Will the Jazz community ever get to see the demo?

A: Although WTG wants to release the demo, and Cliff Bleszinski (the owner of Jazz) has talked about distributing the game for free on the Internet, right now it is unlikely that we'll see Jazz 3 anytime soon. Before it could be released, the demo would have to be reprogrammed to eliminate the Unreal technology, or else WTG would be paying Epic a hefty $300,000 for use of their engine. It would take a great deal of time to do the reprogramming, and WTG is not interested in working on it right now. They are tied up with other projects, and working on Jazz 3 does not make them any money, so it has the least priority. There's a better possibility that Jazz 3 may be released as an Unreal or UT mod.

[quatroking]

um... Braindead have already post that. but i'am still busy with the my w*r*z program; E-M*L*
(hey, this is not speaking over you know huh?)

[Draken]

Originally posted by quatroking@Feb 8 2005, 04:33 PM
um... Braindead have already post that. but i'am still busy with the my w*r*z program; E-M*L*
(hey, this is not speaking over you know huh?)
What I was trying to say is that I dont even think they gave it to anybody, so a download for it would be extremely rare. Unless it was leaked.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by quatroking@Feb 8 2005, 04:33 PM
um... Braindead have already post that. but i'am still busy with the my w*r*z program; E-M*L*
(hey, this is not speaking over you know huh?)
Plz give it when ready :bleh:

[Jemery]

Wow, that's funny. I was doing a search on Jazz 3D to put up references to do tutoring work on the side. :)

Yeah, I was the main coder on the Jazz 3D project. Boy does that seem like a while ago. I figure it took nearly a year to get a playable demo running, but as other people have already mentioned we can't release it because naturally it uses the Unreal engine. Well, unless Epic gave us permission to.

People at Epic seemed to like the game, especially because it managed to make the engine look cartoony, which they were surprised at seeing. Multiple weapons were selectable, a few enemies in with AI, a few full levels, some of the more difficult movements like ledge grab, etc. And of course Alex made a pile of fun songs that I still listen to now and again. I was especially fond of the ice cannon that would create a huge spiked crystal of ice, trapping enemies inside for a brief time. Very funny. :)

But as you can imagine, companies like GOD were folding at the time and nobody was willing to put forth the cash, basically, to bring it to fruition. A decent chunk of cash, really, to license the engine, market, etc. I remember giving the artists money from my own leftover amounts from Tyrian so they could pay their student loans. :)

So yeah, it's a typical story of developing something on your own and just due to circumstances not having it work out. Makes some sense, anyway, as the PC market never really was big into cartoony action games. Not like consoles. I suppose if we made it a few years later on consoles it would have been received far better. But it wasn't a Quake clone, or Star Trek, or whatnot, so people weren't as interested.

Anyway, there you have it, straight from the one who tried to put it together. Heh.

Jason Emery
Amaze Entertainment << In case you were wondering where I am today.

[BlackMageJawa]

Oh yeah, that's right, taunt us by telling us how good the game we can't have is :angry:

Any chance you could release some of those songs? They sound good, and I'm sure there's no way theat they could be dependent on the Unreal engine.

[Omuletzu]

Wow the real person!! Glad to have you aboard! :cheers: :Brain:

[N17R0]

Hmm, it makes me wonder if that's why Epic has given the Unreal engine even up to now a cell-shading ability...

[JJXB]

it had cel-shading ability n17r0 (XIII showed that)

[Braindead]

Jason if you pass me the game :tease: I won't tell anyone... ;)

[The Levitating Nun]

Originally posted by Braindead@Feb 24 2005, 10:06 PM
Jason if you pass me the game :tease: I won't tell anyone... ;)
You wouldn't need to we'd steal it from you using Jazz magnets

[Dreadlord]

Unh? Whasat mean?

[N17R0]

It means they think they are ninjas! :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

[Jemery]

*laughs* Well, it was interesting, sure. But with other games like Sly Cooper and Ratchet and Clank they really tend to overshadow the more primitive-seeming Jazz game. Of course, I guess they did come about five years later, but I'm not sure it would have aged -really- well.

Then again, it was just a demo so nothing was 100% completed.

Hmm, and no, I don't believe we used toon shading or anything. It was just the standard ol' engine with textures of a single color. Pretty funny, really.

Again, there probably isn't much I could give out about it. The music, for instance, was remixed in part and ended up in other games Alex did, including the Unreal he worked on. Same thing happened to the game we started up before Jazz - the Circle.

The PC industry is a harsh mistress. Anymore if it's not a first-tier game it hardly has a hope of being published and making much money. Unless it's one of those jewel-case games you see at the checkout stand. But that's almost a separate genre in and of itself. PC games make a lot of money, but then they cost even more to make. ;) I'm not sure what some companies are thinking anymore. Heh.

Consoles have the advantage of being obscure, accepting of far more genres of games, etc. :) I suppose Jazz was really pushing it by crossing the line to PC, but we didn't know how to make a console game, nor would we have been able to afford a dev kit.

[quatroking]

I have it....
(my pc is not good enough for playing it)
but i don't know where i can upload 54 MB.
(on my Ripway account you can upload 3 MB in one turn)
and its the official test demo!
(know where i can upload it?)