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TotalAnarchy
17-10-2010, 01:39 PM
Many of you may know that I'm deeply fascinated by the Orient, as well as by any culture that shows a bit of individuality in this conglomerate that we call a Global Civilization. However what I want to talk about in this thread is of course games, the ones that have the faraway lands of Asia as a main theme, not only geographically, but also bringing the oriental culture into focus. If I leave matters at this point, some of you may be quick to point out that if you want to find Asia, search it in Asian titles; and so you'd refer me to the Japanese industry, as well as the Korean and Chinese cloning factories. Unfortunately matters are not that simple, for the Chinese are stuck in WoW and MMOs generally, the Koreans are stuck in Starcraft and Blizzard generally, and the Japanese, well they do their stuff, except it's mostly fantasy, sci-fi, horror - no games that actually make me feel the tempo of their world, at least in a stereotypical way.

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Of course there are some works that draw inspiration from medieval China and the period of the Warring States, for example (KOEI's games come to mind, Sango Fighter from Taiwan) and also the feudal Japan. In this regard I'd mention the Onimusha series as being close to what I'm seeking, even though it features Jean Reno in the 3rd part, har har har. I don't know if the Japanese are shy or something, but there aren't that many titles which depict cultural details in a delicate way, so that I'd be amazed. I remember now a trailer for a Yakuza game (probably the third) which has a master stopping a katana with only 2 fingers. That video was on a whole different level, really loved it. Pity I can't find it.

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I'm quite sure if you're reading this, you still don't understand what this guy is talking about. Well, to give you an example from the Japanese games, it's Shenmue, of course. This unfinished series isn't even placed in a historical period, but it manages to capture interesting bits from the Japanese way of life, and later the Chinese one. Even though you know that reality is indeed harsh, and Shenmue is just a work of fiction distanced from the current state of things, you just can't but stand in awe as you play the masterpiece. A little Sakuragaoka, and a Hong Kong, which at first seems bland, but later reveals its vibrant colors, succeed in pulling the player into a strange atmosphere. As many scholars would put it, East Asian mentality resides in considering stability as the main element for progress. And this principle is also Shenmue's drive. It's an epic adventure, at first apparently about revenge, but ultimately it tasks you with restoring the balance.

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My opinion might be wrong, and I'm probably blind, but after browsing through the Japanese lists of games I can't find any other alternatives. Why do I say I probably fail? It's because I haven't played yet Okami, nor have I tried Team Ico's creations, which are, according to others, a bit eccentrical compared to the mainstream stuff. Thus I shift my attention towards the Sunset. Not long ago, I discovered Jade Empire, and rediscovered along with it, that Bioware can turn even the most weirdest of ideas into gold (ignoring the fact that KOTOR is a bugged mess). The gameplay mechanics are obviously reminiscent of the studio's Star Wars: Knight of the Old Empire and post-KOTOR RPGs, but at the same with a good dose of action, as you control your character directly in combat. As far as the concept goes, it's an amalgam of stereotypes we have about the Chinese culture modelled into a single product. Nothing has roots with the real China: the state is called Jade Empire, the Tho Fan language was invented for 2000$ at the University of Alberta, and the martial styles names are not related with the real ones. But the overall idea is there: the Jade Emperor, clay golems, China is at the center of the world - the rest are uncivilized barbarians, the Imperial City, martial arts and techniques...

You'll find weird stuff too, like aircrafts (this is medieval times we're talking about) and an Englishman who tries to "civilize" the locals, attempt which ends in a duel with you, to prove whose intelligence and physical prowess is superior. Subtle oriental humor, the proven Chinese inventivity and the splendor of both the Imperial City and the rural landscapes make from this epic trip, from the small village of Two Rivers, through Tien's Landing and ending with the capital, a must for every fanatical gamer, like me. :p

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There's something alluring in the way we westerners view this alien world, underlining aspects that for a Japanese or Chinese would seem only natural. That's why I had high hopes for a project, that in the end, I suspect never evolved from the concept stage. It was supposed to be a trilogy of sorts. The first part was to be called Once Upon a Time in Japan: Earth, the developer was Abborado. Probably there was nothing else ready except these screens I'm showing you, but looking at them the landscapes and setting just beg me to play this point-and-click adventure. The story was about a retired samurai's struggle in the normal world. Pretty fresh compared to the multitude of world-saving games. Unfortunately it was never meant to be.

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You probably noticed how media publishers consider the most comfortable China, the non-communist one. No wonder the other games that explore its cultural charms are placed in the 20s-30s of the previous century. Such is the case with Heart of China (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/463/Heart+of+China.html), another adventure, developed by Dynamix. The China between the wars is already a cliche, with the compulsory cargo airplane and the foreigner, who's either a pilot or part of the diplomatic service in the country. This is what HoC is, a small interesting adventure that displays some unoriginal clichees as only the 90s naivete can. :p Despite that I recommend it, because it's quite short, and in such little time the characters and the overall design didn't manage to get tiring. Currently I have my eyes on a new adventure called Lost Horizon (http://lost-horizon.deepsilver.com/en/portal/), which takes place in 1936 China. Is it related to the novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Horizon) or the subsequent movies? I don't know yet, but will find about when I get my hands on it for sure.

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I know this is a roundabout way of asking, but please tell me which other games explore the Oriental culture in a way that has highly impressed you. :)

Violetta
17-10-2010, 01:53 PM
Great post, thanks for sharing.

DarthHelmet86
17-10-2010, 02:00 PM
Epic thread is epic.

I am a bit of a noob when it comes to asian games/movies/cartoons as such I doubt I can name a game not listed in this thread. But there is one I would recomend that you play TA, even though you lack the hardware to do so (would be a good reason to get the hardware mind you) and that is Yakuza 3. I would recomend the others in the series but I haven't played them so I won't.

I could go on for hours about the joys I found while playing Yakuza 3, to break it down it is a basic RPG focused on combat....with enough side quests to make another two games out of. On top of that you have mini games galore, ranging from fishing, pool, darts and taking girls on dates. In the Japanese version there is even a set of Host/Hostess side quest, sadly these were cut from the English verison. The game has a very serious story line, one that actually made me rush through my first playthrough. I was desperate to see how it would all turn out, once I had beaten the game I found that my character was saved and I could play through on harder settings, which with a basic character would be nigh impossible, this added even more gameplay hours to this already long game.

The fighting in the game is just classic, ranging from simple attacks to martial arts wonders. What over game lets you light a cigarette and spit it into an enemies eyes allowing you to king hit them. On top of that there is the weapon system, basic weapons can be brought or picked up during battles. On top of that by buying DVD's and magazines you can find out how to make better weapons...like a lightsaber. The weapons you make range from the silly (like fake dynamite) to the epic (did you miss the bit about a LIGHTSABER).

On top of all the RPG/Side quests/Combat goodness there is the two cities featured in the game. They feel alive, full of people and things to do, there are tons of resteaunts full of real Japanese foods...like Potato flavoured icecream :p. So all I can say is TA buy a damn PS3 and get Yakuza 3.

Lulu_Jane
17-10-2010, 02:09 PM
I loved Heart Of China, so I'm really interested in this Lost Horizon you speak of :)

As for suggestions, I already mentioned The Cosmology of Kyoto, and I'll second Darth's suggestion for a ps3 because then you can get a vaguely Tibetan vibe on with Uncharted 2.

Also, if you get in the mood for some asian influenced cyberpunk, go for Blade Runner and Rise Of The Dragon.

Scatty
17-10-2010, 02:23 PM
Well to be honest, though I am myself quite fascinated with the Japanese, Tibetian, Chinese, Thai and Indian cultures, among some others, I didn't play many games that are based on those.
Loved Sango Fighter some years ago, also I liked Shadow Warrior, fantasy-oriented though as it may be. Never played it but Shogun - Total War has to do with battles in the Far East, maybe even historically accurate. Also Time Commando had an episode in feudal Japan, though rather short.

TotalAnarchy
17-10-2010, 06:07 PM
Actually I never thought of Shogun: Total War. Shogun II is expected to be released next year by the way, and since the first is the one that actually started the Total War series, gamers have their hopes up this will be the next big thing. I should probably try the original before the sequel... :mhh:

Lulu: Good thing you reminded me about the Cosmology of Kyoto. It's one of the weirdest things I've seen on Moby, together with this (http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/master-of-dimensions) and some other title which I forgot. It's still on HOTUD, I've checked.

Darth: no can't do sir. My house is already full of technology, plus I'm low on money these days... But I'll find a way to play the Yakuzas, I think.

rabadi
18-10-2010, 12:53 AM
I am fascinated with wuxia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxia), but mostly limited to novels and movies (for example by Jin Yong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_Yong) and Gu Long (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu_Long)), rather than games. My very first wuxia-themed game was Xiaoao Jianghu (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/xiao-ao-jiang-hu), which is loosely based on Jin Yong's novel of the same title (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smiling,_Proud_Wanderer). I did not even finish the game, because it was in Mandarin and I did/do not speak/write Mandarin :lol: I had read the (translated) novel and watched the adaptation movie and television series, so more or less I knew the story already, and I was able to progress for quite some time, but in the end I did not finish it.

I played Sango Player for some time, but since it is mostly a fighting game it did not hold my interest for long. I also played Journey to the West (West Adventure (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/938/West+Adventure.html)) for a while, and again did not finish it (but this time it was more because I sucked at that game). There is a new game coming very loosely based on Journey to the West, called Enslaved: Odyssey to the West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enslaved:_Odyssey_to_the_West). It is not for PC, though. I read good previews about it.

Seal of Evil (http://www.mobygames.com/game/seal-of-evil) is a diablo-clone from 2004.

I am sure nowadays there are many wuxia-themed videogames, but I have not followed the news, and also am not sure whether the games are translated into English or not.