Return To Zork

[wendymaree]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/403)

[Stroggy]

Wow, what can I say but:

Want some rye? 'course ya do!

[wendymaree]

I can dig it. :D

[Jingo James]

Wow! This sure does bring back lots of memories :D I just hope it will be able to play on my computer, unlike the CD-ROM version I have that doesn't work for some reason.

[wendymaree]

Err, this is the CD Rom version. But I hope it works for you. :whistle:

[Stroggy]

I can play the CD version just fine on windows XP.

[Jingo James]

ok, so I tried to do the whole sound card stuff and when I tried to start the game it gave me this:

Illegal command: DRIVERS\PAUDIO.
Illegal command: MADECD.
Illegal command: DRIVERS\PAUDIO.

So do anyone knows what this means. Is it because it might not be the right I\O number and stuff? If so anyone know where I could find that information at? Thanks.

[wendymaree]

What sound card do you have? It's important to pick the right one, with the correct I/Os. I have a Sound Blaster Live and the first time around I picked the Sound Blaster option, without properly reading the list. I should have picked Sound Blaster 16. Nothing would work until I changed to the right option. I can only advise how to find the s/card addresses using Win98, but I gather it'd be pretty similar with XP. Here's what I do: find the way to the control panel. Then click on the System icon and then the Device Manager tab. Then from the list click on your sound card and from what appears choose your dos driver and click on it. Then it brings up the properties for the driver. Click on the Resources tab and there is a list of the I/Os.

[Jingo James]

Yep I believe I have the same card as you. Creative Sound Blaster Live. I found the resource tab and clicked on it and found the IRQ and I\O, however my I\O address is has letters and numbers in it (sorry don't know a lot about this stuff in computer). Also the DMA wasn't there, I wonder if it's 0 then. Still doesn't work for me i'll keep trying.

[wendymaree]

ok, this is what I have for mine:

I/O: 0220 - 022F (that means my I/O is 220)
I/O: 0330 - 0331 (I think this means the top of the range, however I always choose 220 and it works.)
Direct Memory Access: 01 (I choose 1 for the DMA)
Direct Memory Access: 05
Interrupt Request: 05 (I choose 5 for the IRQ)

However, using Win98, the game chose the DMA and the IRQ itself - as none! I only had to choose the I/O.

[Jingo James]

Well, mine confuses me LOL .

I\O: CF20-CF3F
IRQ: 22

Thats all it has.. I'm not quite sure what to put for I\O I tried CF20 and 22 for IRQ and DMA 0 then 1 and it didn't work.

[Kosta]

If you're playing in DosBox you should set the IRQ for sound blaster to 7

[install problem]

I seem to have a problem installing it for some strange reason. I run install.exe (tried both DOXbox and just through windows) and it says since I already have the cd-rom installed, it can let me change soundcard options. I don't have i installed yet! I think i'm most likely doing something wrong, whats up with this?

[Kon-Tiki]

HOLY BALONY, didn't expect that one to come up anytime soon. Getting around to studying my lineair algebra'll be pretty damn hard :whistle:

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Kon-Tiki@Jan 22 2005, 03:35 PM
HOLY BALONY, didn't expect that one to come up anytime soon. Getting around to studying my lineair algebra'll be pretty damn hard :whistle:
oh you'll have plenty of time when you're stuck... and you WILL be stuck.

[Kon-Tiki]

UHS proves to be useful in such cases... unless it blocks that exact part you're stuck in due to not registering.

[funky]

It says "Since you have already installed RTZ"

But I haven't installed it yet. Another windows 95 only game?

[Tom]

hi, i just got the .zip and im having promblems playing on XP through dosBOX. I run the install file that cam in the .zip through dos box and it runs fine (had to skip the project files though) and it installs to the default dir (rtz-cd) from there what do i do? iv tried running various combos of RTZ and INSTALL named files out of the rtz-cd directory through dosbox but notihing seems to work.i jsut get a black screen. (i did ONCE get as far as to see an old-fashioned mousepointer and part of the white-house mesage before the scre went blank buti cant get it back!)

any help you cant give me would be great!

thanks

[holly]

i cannot get it to intsall on xp at all , Help

[Kon-Tiki]

Originally posted by funky@Jan 22 2005, 07:28 PM
It says "Since you have already installed RTZ"

But I haven't installed it yet. Another windows 95 only game?
Got that thing too, under Win98SE. When running Rtz.bat, it just says cannot find file... twice.

[mt toom]

Originally posted by wendymaree@Jan 22 2005, 09:34 AM
Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review & Download (http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=403&genre=adventure)
The archive seems to be missing the drivers directory and the madecd.exe file maybe more ??? help please thanks

mt toom

[Ioncannon]

I loved this game.... Want some Rye? course you do!

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by mt toom+Jan 23 2005, 02:21 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mt toom @ Jan 23 2005, 02:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-wendymaree@Jan 22 2005, 09:34 AM
Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review & Download (http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=403&genre=adventure)
The archive seems to be missing the drivers directory and the madecd.exe file maybe more ??? help please thanks

mt toom [/b][/quote]
mr toom, before you jump to conclusions like this, would you please read the review where it gives you instructions. The files you mentioned will only appear on your hard drive AFTER you have clicked on install.ext.

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by funky@Jan 22 2005, 06:28 PM
It says "Since you have already installed RTZ"

But I haven't installed it yet.* Another windows 95 only game?

Funky, I read in a previous post where Stroggy mentioned that the CD rom version of the game worked fine on his XP system. This is the full CD Rom version and no files have been removed.

In the past I've paid a lot of money for games that have never worked on my computer. The game companies gave me half-baked answers that never worked, either. Not even the game companies can guarantee that a game will work, and neither can Abandonia. Especially such old games that have been ripped from CDs or disks.

This version of Return to Zork is the full game without any files removed. However, it is meant to be run from a CD, so perhaps complications arise when files are uncompressed into the same directory as where install.exe resides.

Suggestion: Unzip the archive and burn it onto a CD. After burning, remove all trace of the game from your hard drive. Then run the 'install.exe' file from the CD to install/uncompress files onto your hard drive. If you don't have a burner, but you have more than one drive, it might work if the uncompressed files are installed on a different directory to where install.exe is. But I think burning the files to a CD and running the game from there is the best option.

[wendymaree]

UPDATE:

I've been fiddling around with the archive and I tried zipping up the files from the CD rom onto the hard drive. Then I unzipped them. Then I clicked on 'install.exe' on the hard drive only to get the same message as Kon Tiki: 'As the game has already been installed on your hard drive, you can now choose new reconfigurations.'

Then I burnt the files onto a CD and tried clicking on 'install.exe' from there but got the same message. When I put the original CD of the game back into the CD drive, I got: 'Thank you for purchasing this game, press any key to continue....'

Then you choose a directory, etc, and the files are installed.

So it seems that install.exe will only work from the original CD Rom. I've never heard of this happening. Sorry everyone, it's not just a matter of configuring systems. As it stands, it seems that once you remove the files from the CD Rom, the install.exe won't install.

If anyone knows a work-around for this, please tell. I'll pm Data and see if he knows of an answer.

[GraveDigger]

How about replacing the rip with original floppy version. I have the Original Floppies' iSOs in HD-Copy format.

Give my idea a thought and let me know!

Editing here:

I have just read a reply that the game doesn't run in Xp. I recenty replayed and reviewed the CDRom version of the game in XP and it worked fine with me.

[wendymaree]

Well, thanks for that, GraveDigger. *smiling for the first time today* This would be fantastic.

I 'll just wait a little bit to see if Data, or anyone else, has a work-around for this problem. But if not, then we'll gladly take that game from you. :)

And thanks again! :bye:

[GraveDigger]

By the way, if you decide to put the floppy version of the game then make sure that you have "12+1 x HD-1.44" floppies handy to regenerate the floppies using HD-Copy, which is a freeware utility.

Return To Zork (12 HD-1.44)
Return To Zork Upgrade (1 HD-1.44)

[Stroggy]

If only I could remember how I made it work, but i'm definite it worked eventually!
However I did spend some time fiddling with everything. Trying to figure out how to make it work is sometimes part of the abandonware fun. The fiddling itself isn't much fun but when it does actually work and you see the images rolling by and hear the sound as it was meant to be heard... thats always fun.

[wendymaree]

Part of the fun....must remember that. :hairpull:

If we can't get this archive working, then I'll upload another one. There are a few to choose from, and it's such a great game we must have it onsite, and it definitely can be made to work on XP. :)

[wanttoplayzork]

I found a "CD patch" that seems to manually uncompress the files (see links below) on a fan infocom page:

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/games.html
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/Download/RTZCD12.EXE

However, I still cannot get Zork to play. When I run RTZ.bat, it says "No sound driver resident".

I am on XP with SB Live! When setting up install.exe, I've tried SB, SB Pro, and SB 16 settings, and cannot get past the "No sound driver resident message".

Help appreciated figuring this out!

[Mec]

Got to work in XP using dosbox, burnt the contents of the zip to a CD (d:\ not d:\rtz) and mounted the hd and cdrom drive in dosbox and then installed it. Chose a full install which copys the files to the hard disk, when it asks for the cd drive i pointed at the cd drive as opposed the hard disk. Set up the sound card SB16 i/o 220 irq 7 dma 1. got to c:\rtz-cd and run rtz.bat :) enjoy

[wendymaree]

LATEST: HERE IS THE SOLUTION

Some might have already figured this out, but I've got the game to work both from the hard drive and also burning it to a CD. The trick is this: When you unzip the files put them in the route of either the CD drive or drive C or D on your hard drive. What this means is don't put the unzipped files into a folder. Put them straight onto the C drive or the D drive. The same when burning to a CD.

Now, when you've unzipped the files to the route of a drive, click on install.exe. They will ask where you want the files to go and also the name of your CD Drive. For the name of your CD Rom drive, give the drive letter where the initial files where inzipped. I think it might work best if you put the files that are to be uncompressed into another drive from the inital unzipped files. Burning the files to a CD and placing them in the route of the CD drive will also work.

*happy dancing*

Now going back to see what's been written since last night (my time)

[taikara]

Gah.

Zork rocks. Text games rock.

Anything with pictures cannot truly be Zork, and therefore cannot rock.

Text games are games at their purest. All story, no eye candy, and only your brains can get you to the end.

Of course, Sierra rocks, but then, you still needed brains to play the old Sierra games, too.

Those were the days. I curse the invention of "Point and Click," even though early Lucasfilm was pretty sweet.

I'll try it anyway. Ignorant prejudice never made anyone happy.

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by Mec@Jan 23 2005, 09:44 PM
Got to work in XP using dosbox, burnt the contents of the zip to a CD (d:\ not d:\rtz) and mounted the hd and cdrom drive in dosbox and then installed it. Chose a full install which copys the files to the hard disk, when it asks for the cd drive i pointed at the cd drive as opposed the hard disk. Set up the sound card SB16 i/o 220 irq 7 dma 1. got to c:\rtz-cd and run rtz.bat :) enjoy
Mec, that's great news that you have the game working. Thanks for sharing that and the secret of your success :) And, yes, you're right - the secret is to put the unzipped files into the route directory NOT in a folder. You don't have to burn them to a CD. The game will also work from the hard drive. The trick to getting this to work is selecting the drive letter where the unzipped files are as the 'name of the CD Rom drive' when asked by the installation program.

[wendymaree]

DATA'S SOLUTION FOR PLAYING RTZ THROUGH DOSBOX:

example:
extract to c:\

go inside dosbox
mount c c:\
c:
cd RTZ
subst d .\
d:
install
change install path to c:\rtz
run install (do not move 45 mb)
configure it right.
play the game.

I didn't have audio but I'm not sure if you uploaded it as it appears to be redbook audio and those are stored in audio tracks I recall. not certain.)

You can then recreacte the archve from c:\rtz (as you installed it from the same directory as where you installed it too (see the subst trick) )

Play withit yourself. (you can say the c:\ is your cdrom)

Thanks, Data! :ok:

[Kon-Tiki]

Works like a charm now :ok:

[wendymaree]

Yippee! Thanks for letting us know, Kon-Tiki.

[Timelord]

ANOTHER SOLUTION:

Using Dosbox, you can trick the game into thinking that c:\rtz is the CD-ROM drive c:\.

unzip the files into c:\rtz

load up dosbox

>mount c c:\rtz
>c:
>install

set the directory for installation to c:\rtz-cd (which is actually c:\rtz\rtz-cd)

after the installation is complete, run the install.exe in the rtz-cd directory FROM WINDOWS, not dosbox. Set up the sound and set the CD-ROM directory to 'Drive C:'.

The working directory for RTZ will be shown as c:\rtz\rtz-cd, that is okay.

Then run rtz.bat through dosbox, this worked for me and I have sound.

-Timelord

[wendymaree]

Thanks for that information, TimeLord. :)

[Magmaros]

any solution for the "this game is already installed" bug?

[Data]

read the posts above you ?

[Guest]

i did, but most of them refer to dosbox, which im not using cause i'm currently on win98, can you please refer me to the specific posts?

[Rebecca]

I liked Timelord's solution for installing -- seemed simple enough -- but I have very little to no experience with DOSbox and could use some *very* specific instructions.

I have everything set up they way he suggests, but typing in "install" to the command line doesn't do anything.

Can someone bear to tell me *exactly* what to do here, step by step?

Sorry to be this way. Email the solution to me if if feels like too much repetition on the forum (redhotkitchen at earthlink.net).

Rebecca
who needs some rye

[dOllee]

I got the game installed alright, but I still have some sound issues. Apparently there's a patch here (http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dp.cgi?lang=eng&ref=ps&sys=pc&cap=r) that should solve that problem. I downloaded it, ran it in the RTZ-CD folder and normally I would have gotten a message asking me to overwright some files. But I didn't, and the sound still isn't fixed... I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. Can somebody help me with this?

Btw, be sure also to have a look at this site (http://home.earthlink.net/~infernofilecabinet4/XpSetupsP_T/rtz_setup.htm), it helped me install Zork. It's pretty much what you guys are saying, but a step-by-step walkthrough for us dummies. :huh:

[Rebecca]

There are two patches for RTZ that site...not sure which one to grab.

Also, while the step-by-step install page looked more helpful, it was written for an actual, physical CD-rom install, which we're not going. So I still don't get it.

I loved this game, back in the day. But I don't remember any of the DOS commands and whys and where-fors. There are steps that these posts assume I know how to do that I just don't anymore.

It just sucks so much that I want to play this game, but can't remember any DOS 101 to make it work. So frustrating.

Rebecca

[dOllee]

There are two patches for RTZ that site...not sure which one to grab.

It's the one for the cd-version.

Also, while the step-by-step install page looked more helpful, it was written for an actual, physical CD-rom install, which we're not going.* So I still don't get it.

I know, but after unzipping the Zork-files to the C-drive, everything else is the same. These files are actually the files you would normally find on the cd-rom. I now this has been said repeatedly, but make sure that you unzip them DIRECTLY under C, and NOT in a folder.
Also, using VDMS worked like a charm for me, and it's quite well explaned how to use it in that walkthrough. Give it a go!

[Tom]

need help getting sound in XP

RealTek AC'97 Audio
I/O Range E400-E4FF
I/O Range EC00-EC7F
IRQ 18


what should i pick from the list and what options do i enter?


Thanks

[outspan]

this is the most awesome thing i've ever found on the interweb. i can't believe i found this game again! :cheers:

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by Tom@Jan 25 2005, 11:55 PM
need help getting sound in XP

RealTek AC'97 Audio
I/O Range E400-E4FF
I/O Range EC00-EC7F
IRQ 18



Isn't there an option for a sound blaster compatible card? For the I/O you could try 400 or 408 and if that doesn't work, try 220. That's a very universal one. For IRQ, try 18, then 7, or 5, or 3, or 1. You might have to go with an AdLib driver if SB compatability doesn't work. But I'm no expert here. Just try everything. It's worth the effort cos it's such a great game, and also once you've found a working combination you'll be right for all the other dos games you download from Abandonia. :)

EDIT: There's an option for a sound blaster clone, I've discovered. There's a good chance your card will work with this one. If you have to end up choosing the AdLib drivers, I think I read somewhere in the readme files that you won't hear any speech or digitized sound, only music.

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by outspan@Jan 26 2005, 08:50 AM
this is the most awesome thing i've ever found on the interweb. i can't believe i found this game again! :cheers:
Glad to see you smile, outspan. I'm guessing that no other abandonware site has the full CD version with movies and speech. HOTU has the floppy version.

[dOllee]

Is there no-one who can help me with the patch I found here (http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dp.cgi?lang=eng&ref=ps&sys=pc&cap=r)? I'm really having trouble understanding the conversations in-game... And with everybody shouting from the rooftops about this game, I would REALLY like to get it up and running!

[wendymaree]

You shouldn't need a patch to run the game. What system do you have, ie Windows 98 or XP? For both systems you need to unzip the game files to whichever drive you choose - usually C drive. But do not unzip them into a folder. Chose an unzip address that's something like this: C:\

They usually unzip together in a cluster, so it's not that hard to find all the files in the archive. Then you double click on 'install.exe' This installation program will ask where you want to install the files. If you have another drive, I'd choose it. Then, later, when the installation program asks the name of your CD rom drive, just type in the drive letter where you unzipped the original files - the ones you downloaded from Abandonia. Then the game knows where to look for these files so it can run properly.

You need to know the name of your sound card. If it's not a Sound Blaster card, and it's not one that is on the list that the installation program provides, then you could try selecting the 'sound blaster clone' option. You also need to know your i/o number, plus your IRQ. These settings enable the sound card to provide digital sound and music for the game. I've outlined how they can be found in a previous post in this thread.

If you have XP, you have one more step and that is configuring the game to run in dosbox. There are several step-by-step instructions on how to do that in this thread. If you have 98, then you can miss this step and just click on rtz.bat and the game should run for you.

Any more questions, just ask. The game is very stable and once the above is taken care of should run on any system.

[Rebecca]

Got it installed. Whew. Thanks to all for your patience in dealing with me!

But now I have another problem. : )

I have sound, but it's very choppy. I have picture, but it is also very choppy. And everything is painfully slow. There's some little thing I must be missing in the set-up portion of installing the game.

I mostly used the default settings for everything, soundwise (220, 7, etc.) and didn't change anything else.

One of the DOSbox windows says, "SDL:You are running 24 bpp mode, this will slow down things!" So perhaps I'm having a DOSbox issue?

I'll keep searching for answers, but help from Those Who Already Know would be much appreciated.

Rebecca
jonesin' for rye

[Kon-Tiki]

Haven't seen anything 'bout that in the DosBox configuration, but what we usually do to speed DosBox up or down, is play around with the CPU cycles. Press Ctrl-F11 for less and Ctrl-F12 for more cycles. 2333 cycles's usually enough to run it smoothly here. If that doesn't work, there's still frameskips to tweak, which is Ctrl-F7 and Ctrl-F8. Personally, I've never had to use those yet. The sound's fluent, but when you're moving from one part to the second, when you're walking in 3D, it does go kinda choppy. That's more the game itself, I think, concidering its age. Pretty well-done for that. Another reason why I think that's the game itself, is that other animations, like the vulture or the guy in the crystal ball, aren't choppy.

[Rebecca]

Thanks, Tiki. I figured that out after a while but it was nice to know I was right. : )

Now the problem is, the dwarven mines are *really* hard to navigate with all the frame skipping. And the screen will black out during the trip, as if things weren't bad enough. I can't tell when I need to change from clicking right to clicking left.

Argh! At least now I've got a "Want some rye? Course ya do!" ringtone for my phone. : )

Rebecca

[Rebecca]

Here. I'll answer my own question:

Look at the tracks, not the walls. Looking at the tracks makes it easier to see when an intersection is coming up. Then click right or left until the cart turns and you know you've done it.

Ha!

[dOllee]

Originally posted by wendymaree@Jan 26 2005, 11:54 PM
You need to know the name of your sound card.* If it's not a Sound Blaster card, and it's not one that is on the list that the installation program provides, then you could try selecting the 'sound blaster clone' option.* You also need to know your i/o number, plus your IRQ.
I have WinXp. And my soundcard is not on the list.
Before, I installed it with Soundblaster (the first one), I/O 220 IRQ 7 DMA 1, and it worked! The sound was great, until I arrived at the lighthouse... The voice was really messed up.
Now I tried your soundblaster clone suggestion, but that didn't work at all. I don't know if I got the numbers right. This is what I found:

soundcard: C-Media AC97 Audio Device
I/O D400-D4FF --> I used 400
I/O D800-D83F
DMA FA801000-FA8011FF --> didn't know what to use, but tried 1 and 8
DMA FA802000-FA8020FF
IRQ 17 --> used 17, obviously...

Any help...? And do I have to 'uninstall' the game before adjusting these settings? Because I didn't.
Oh yeah, I run the game with VDMS.

[Hoody]

Howdy! I have a strange thing happening when I go to install it through dosbox. whether I do so from a folder or straight from hard drive, after typing install it sorta starts to go into a blue screen, then dosbox shuts itself down. No error report, no explanation. Maybe my comps just funny, but do you have any suggestions? Thanks :tomato:

[wendymaree]

dOllee, I'm sorry but I just don't know what to advise. My frame of reference is only with the equipment I use which is a SB Live card and Win98. I've never used Dosbox or VDM. All I can suggest is that you experiment with settings and card names until you find one that works for you.

EDIT:
No, after changing a setting you definitely don't have to reinstall the game nor should you need to reboot.

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by Hoody@Jan 28 2005, 10:34 PM
Howdy! I have a strange thing happening when I go to install it through dosbox. whether I do so from a folder or straight from hard drive, after typing install it sorta starts to go into a blue screen, then dosbox shuts itself down. No error report, no explanation. Maybe my comps just funny, but do you have any suggestions? Thanks :tomato:
Are you using Dosbox with XP or Win98? I use Win98 and know nothing about dosbox, but to install I just click on the install.exe file. (But this only works for me as long as the files have been unzipped into the route of the drive.) Have you tried this instead of trying to install through Dosbox?

[Hoody]

I'm using windows XP, so i hafta use dosbox to run it. And I gotta say, I've encountered more problems with XP than I ever had back on the ol' win 95 486 comp. :angry: Maybe its time to down-grade. :blink:

[NekoboyEriku]

I've still got the Original CD and box for this game. Every time I try to run it I can't get the digital music from the CD tracks to play. They used to when I was younger, so I'm a bit disapointed without it. Mounting -t CDROM in Dosbox only makes the game unplayable.

[jl7]

I have the game installed directly on the c: drive. In the install menu it tells me to type c:\rtz\rtz and the game will run. When I do this it says, "file not found and bad command or file name." I do end up in the directory C:\rtz>. I have tried to run it from this directory without success. Any suggestions?

[Molokaicreeper]

:help:

Hello

I am a DOS and Mac user. I recently bought RTZ for Mac, but needless to say when the game was ported to the Mac, a lot of modifications were made and some things are just not the same. Well so I went to eBay and grabbed a DOS copy. Unfortunately the seller was not clear on his description, (he said either a floppy or CD rom drive was required) I assumed he had both the floppies and the CD. I got the game today. Only floppies. I put them in my PC and the first disk (1 of 12) is busted.

Overall I wanted the CD rom version that contains all the music tracks. The Mac does not work that way. When they ported it to the Mac, instead they made the music tracks into midi files, and improved the graphics, also there was movies playing everytime someone would talk to you.

But I miss the music of the old DOS CD version I used to have, as enjoyable as the movie capable version in the Mac might be, lots of funny comments were removed and the music is so corny (for God sake its midi music! yuck!).

Is there anyone who can tell me how I can find disk number one for download, or better yet, is there any way to get the music tracks from RTZ for downloading somewhere in the web? I could create a custom RTZ CD with the download I got here. I miss the music from the gift shop and the music from the fool's memorial.

Please help, I dont want to get into another expense! :(

Thanks!
Lili

[Molokaicreeper]

Originally posted by jl7@Feb 8 2005, 09:00 PM
I have the game installed directly on the c: drive. In the install menu it tells me to type c:\rtz\rtz and the game will run. When I do this it says, "file not found and bad command or file name." I do end up in the directory C:\rtz>. I have tried to run it from this directory without success. Any suggestions?
you have to run the install.exe application again and choose drive C: as your CD rom drive. or reinstall, whenever it ask you what drive to use, choose C: :bye:

[Julester]

Ok - so I finally almost got this to work, taking your advice (dropping everything directly to C: Driv, etc.) The sound is messed up though - like I didn't hear any sound during the intro, then I could hear the music but not the voices on the first screen (and the animation moved too fast in the orb). Any ideas? I have a sound blaster live sound card, and configured it to sound blaster 16 like you said, both times it asked me. Could that be my problem? Thanks!

[Julester]

I realized I had the wrong I/O number in - for some reason I had 22F instead of 0220. I got it to work! Excuse me, I have to go play the best game in the world now. Man, this brings back memories . . . :)

[Molokaicreeper]

Hello

:Brain: A very nice person helped me out on how to get the music tracks and I got them now. But I still need the first floppy disk from Zork. Would it be possible for anyone to give me a zip archive with it? Or is there any place I can find it? I wish I had a webpage, I'd let them download the music tracks. Oh well, anyone for Disk 1 of 12? Thanks!

Lili
molokaicreeper@hotmail.com

[Julester]

Crap . . . so I somehow lost my money, I have no idea how. I paid the blacksmith for the sword and to read the book, and I thought I had paid for a room too, but now I don't have money to pay for the boat. I can't figure out what to do, does this mean I have to start over?

[Tuttle]

Nope. Money grows on trees down there (or at least one particular tree). ;) Go search the forest (and draw a map while you're exploring it).

[Julester]

Ah, but see . . . don't you need the witch's stick to get it? And don't you need the boat to get to the witch, and don't you need money to get the boat? Haha.

[Tuttle]

No, you just need something long and hard. The sword definitely works, and there's probably another object or two that would too.

[Julester]

I figured that, and I tried the sword, but it wasn't an option to strike it. Throwinf it didn't work either. Ah, it sucks if I have to start over haha.

[Julester]

Never mind! I must have clicked in the wrong place, I got it to work. Yessss.

[YO]

I tryed playing zork on dos box but after i install it and i type RTZ in the C:\RTZ> It says Illegal command: drviers\sb16
Illegal command: MADECD
Illegal command: drivers\sb16

can some one help me with this or has the same problem

[Julester]

I had the same problem, and just reinstalled it making sure I had the sound configured right. Check what sound card you have and be sure to pick the right one, and try chnaging the I/O number they ask you for to 0220. That's what I did, and I got it to work.

[Julester]

On a side note, I totally got back from the Witch's and realized I left the steak outside. That could be a problem.

[YO]

Uh i think my sound card is Nvidai®nforce™audio but it doesnt say anything there in the settings help me plz

[Tuttle]

YO, you'll need to play the game in DOSBox, and in DOSBox you can tell it you have a Sound Blaster 16.

[Molokaicreeper]

:D hey dude, you dont need to put the meat outside! all you gotta do is drop it on the floor inside her house, somehow she doesn't smell it anymore LOL

[Molokaicreeper]

:( :cry: hey guys I still am looking for disk number #1 of 12 from return to zork the floppy disk version, can anyone please do an image of disk one and email it to me [BEEEP]@aol.com I'll appreciate it!!!

Liliana

[Mike b]

Hey everyone, Im running XP but a few errors are coming up when i Play the game through DOSbox...

I run it from DOSbox...
I hear thunder and lightning, see "infocom" logo
"art of adventure" at bottom of screen
Then a black screen, flashes message "cannot open file intro00.pmv"

I can't get the movies to play at all, here, or at the mountain pass, or when the man at the lighthouse answers the door.

Any ideas???

[desperately hopes I'm missing something simple]

[Guest]

I downloaded it, but when I try to install it, it says:
"The system file is not suitable for running MS-DOs and Microsoft Windows applications."
This always seems to happen when I try to run things in DOS. I have Windows XP. Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
thanks

[mrpeepers]

I'm getting the same problem as Mike B. there are no videos at all. even when you make the raft and go into the river, it goes straight into West Shanbar. Also everything is very choppy, and pressing F11 and 12 and 7 and 8 doesn't do anything. help please! :cry:
the person who posted just before needs DOSbox, it is on this site.

[hillel_kitty]

Just a thought, mike b, have you tried installing the project book? I don't really know what this does, but install.exe seemed to think it was a good idea.


Does anyone have the problem of this program running WAY too fast in XP? I've never seen that codger Trembyle shuck and jive so FAST! I've got DOSBox installed, but I just run RTZ thru windows, since it automatically pops DOSBox when I start up rtz.bat

How can I slow this down? I've tried ctrl-F8 and F12, but it doesn't seem to help.

[wendymaree]

Hmm....the problem with running videos must be some kind of Dos/memory issue as they work perfectly in Win98. Have you tried running the program using VDM sound? That's available onsite too and the memory can be configured easily. Dosbox is trickier to set up...for me, anyway. Sometimes VDM sound doesn't need any configuration at all and games will just play with the default configuration.

[Guest_nick]

Well i managed to make a false CD ROM drive inside of dos box, and load RTZ out of that. i edited the .conf file like:


[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
mount C C:\DOS\CDrive
mount D C:\DOS\DDrive\ -t cdrom
C:
CLS


so i loaded RTZ out of the D: that i pulled up inside of dosbox. back in C: i went through the tinstallization okay (i had to chose the no option when it asked about loading the .pjm thing to the harddrive, otherwise it all locked up.) now i can run RTZ, i see the into scene with the white house and all, and get to the first clip in the valley where the orb says he needs a new battery. then everything goes black, and nothing loads. I still have the funky little hand as my mouse cursor tho. Anyone else hit this problem? or know how i can work around it?

[Guest_nick]

nevermind, i finally got it to work. it took some tinkering with letting it use smooth audio and whether to load movies into higher memory. i had to put the first two on NO, and the bottom two on YES. now it works great!

want some rye? 'course I do...

[Guest]

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get the .pmv files to play? They're the only thing I can't get working.

[BackFire]

Any one else have a problem putting a battery in the globa? I can't seem to put into the tela globa any Ideas? This is my second try at this game I didn't beat it the first time I tryed. The game messed up before a would let me go over the fire brige before. I want to beat it this time. It left a void in my life so please help me.

[evolution]

hey just dusted off the old zork and was looking forward to playing it but i've hit a couple of snags. firstly the movies play way too fast and secondly i have no sound?!!

im running winXP with a realtek ac'97 audio. someone posted a similar problem with the same specs but it never got resolved. Im hoping that someone has found a way to play this great game with the same specs that i have.

cheers.

[akburg]

Hello, I'm trying to find the download to Return to Zork (CD version) - can anyone point me in the right direction?

Cheers,
Akburg

[Guest]

Can anyone help me? I'm trying to find where to download the Zork game. I know I'm a noobie.

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by Guest@Jun 19 2005, 01:31 AM
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to find where to download the Zork game. I know I'm a noobie.
Unfortunately, this particular Zork game happens to be ESA-protected, so you can't download it. You might want to try Zork 1 (http://www.abandonia.com/games/342/Zork1GreatUndergroundEmpire.htm), Zork 2 (http://www.abandonia.com/games/343/Zork2WizardofFrobozz.htm) or The Lurking Horror (http://www.abandonia.com/games/434/LurkingHorror.htm), though.:)

[Scott]

I got this game several years ago (that's right, I have the actual CD) and it was fun, but I was little and couldn't get past the town. Then about a year ago I was yerning to hear "Want some rye? 'Corse ya do!" and tried to play it on my new computer, but the sound wouldn't work. Any who, I just realized, Hey I have DOSBox, I bet it'll work with that! And I tried it and the sound works, but now it skips all of the video things, ie. when I got to the lighthouse instead of the guy talking to me I just went in. Anyone else experience this, and how do I fix it? Thanks

[Liliana]

oh my gosh! what happened to the download? is not here anymore!!!
help me out! :tai: :eeeeeh:

[Grand Dad]

:angry: It's pity isn't it that most of the fine oldies have had to be removed and they aren't even available in the shops.

I play it (often) in Win98 and love it...it's probably the best Zork games :D

Take the rye but for pity's sake don't drink it :bleh:

[Molokaicreeper]

Originally posted by Liliana@Aug 21 2005, 04:58 AM
oh my gosh! what happened to the download? is not here anymore!!!
help me out! :tai: :eeeeeh:
:cry: :not_ok:
I can't believe they removed it. Specially when Activision is in NO PLANS to release a ZORK game anytime soon, who knows if ever we'll see a ZORK game again!
:tai: :cry:

[Grand Dad]

Originally posted by BackFire@May 7 2005, 01:21 AM
Any one else have a problem putting a battery in the globa? I can't seem to put into the* tela globa any Ideas? This is my second try at this game I didn't beat it the first time I tryed. The game messed up before a would let me go over the fire brige before. I want* to beat it this time. It left a void in my life so please help me.
Shouldn't be a problem! In your Inventory just pick it up and put in the 'globa' as you call it..."drop it in" will be the message when you take over it. :bye:

Happy Hunting! :D

[iepeulas]

Crap! I got here a year too late! Where can I get a copy of this game!! :cry: Sorry bout bringing this post back from the dead, but I've been lookin for this game everywhere.

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Someone delete that post or whatever. We do not supply warez. Nor do we supply links to warez.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(evolution @ May 30 2005, 09:37 AM) 112645</div>
hey just dusted off the old zork and was looking forward to playing it but i've hit a couple of snags. firstly the movies play way too fast and secondly i have no sound?!!

im running winXP with a realtek ac'97 audio. someone posted a similar problem with the same specs but it never got resolved. Im hoping that someone has found a way to play this great game with the same specs that i have.

cheers.
[/b]
same problem heelllppp!!

[Nazo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 11 2006, 02:43 PM) 242824</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(evolution @ May 30 2005, 09:37 AM) 112645
hey just dusted off the old zork and was looking forward to playing it but i've hit a couple of snags. firstly the movies play way too fast and secondly i have no sound?!!

im running winXP with a realtek ac'97 audio. someone posted a similar problem with the same specs but it never got resolved. Im hoping that someone has found a way to play this great game with the same specs that i have.

cheers.
[/b]
same problem heelllppp!!
[/b][/quote]

Wow, I still have my disc from... What is it now? 13 years ago? Somehow, impossibly enough, the CD has a minimum of scratches (compared to, say a disc I have from 10 years ago that is covered in so many scratches it's not even funny.) Anywho, fired up DOSBox, mounted the CD-ROM, and installed. Ok, so with the current version I'm using it definitely doesn't handle too well. The videos play fine and everything, but, the actual in-game part plays as if you were trying to run it on an underclocked 386. Definitely not doable. I tried VDMSound and did indeed see the same problems you've had. It doesn't seem to recognize the sound even when properly configured or something I think. As for the videos, it looks like some kind of file access problem to me, or maybe even the culprit is just simply the sound (it may use sound for syncing so without the sound it looses syncing and runs all frames at the max.)

Anyway, this game needs to be played in DOSBox in Windows XP clearly. It's listed as playable, so I'm guessing you have to use an older version than I'm currently using (a CVS compile from just a few days ago.) Later on I'll try to see if I can track down what works best for it. Since it's listed as fully playable with no notes on speed problems it surely works in several versions without noticable issues.

[The Fifth Horseman]

With DosBox, try Dynamic Core and increasing the cyclecount. VDMSound is less compatibile then DosBox, so things like that happen. VDMS also uses most of your CPU's power for the game itself - some games may run unbearably high this way.

[Nazo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jul 20 2006, 06:04 AM) 244146</div>
With DosBox, try Dynamic Core and increasing the cyclecount. VDMSound is less compatibile then DosBox, so things like that happen. VDMS also uses most of your CPU's power for the game itself - some games may run unbearably high this way.
[/b]
No, I already tried those things. I'm afraid the problem with RTZ seems to be specific to some version or other. I have a suspicion it's related to a change they have recently made to joystick polling in fact, but, I may be wrong about that. I drug out an old copy of DOSBox and RTZ ran on it ok though I did get a crash (it said there was an invalid CPU instruction or something as I recall.) Anyway, I started a topic here: http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?p=87515#87515 Looks like no one else is going to help though. Eventually I'll figure out where specifically the problem starts and maybe someone there will bother to listen then, but, right now I'm just tired of messing with it.

[Grand Dad]

So far I am managing to play it on XP :brain:

[Marzen]

i used to play this game ALL the time as a kid. i forgot how i how i had it back then. Floppy disk, maybe ? ^_^

Anyway, years ago, my brother got the Zork anthology, with this on it... but Return to Zork didnt work :tai: ... It made dos background noises, i think thats what its supposed to do, but the people didnt make any noises while talking, and talked REALLY fast. this was on our newer XPs, as we had gotten rid of our 98 a while ago. then, our XP stopped playing DOS games all together. i used Dos Box, but never thought of using it for Zork.

Recently, i got a laptop. It used XP, and could run DOS games perfectly. I got dos box anyway, cause Star Con wouldnt work without it for some reason <_< ... And, lo and behold, it still didnt work. I then used Dos Box, after seeing you all talk about it here. Instead of the orb guy showing upblack bar a[ for 1 second, he didnt even show up. appeared for a second. and the people didnt make any noise, like before, but didnt move fast, which is a start :P... still the background music, though.

SO... ANNOYING :wallbash: ... I WANT TO PLAY IT! I'VE BEEN WANTING TO FOR YEARS :angry:

Oh well, ya cant get everything <_<

[Grand Dad]

:( Since my last post I got the latest Intel MotherBoard with a new Sound card RealTech and a faster Compressor now I can't play it either...says I need extra machine mem. The same problem with two other games Pirates Gold and Dragon Sphere!

So I'm installing Win98 and MS-DOS 6.22 again.

Shall use both OS. XP on a differnt drive.

I don't like DosBox or can't understand it :(.

[The Fifth Horseman]

It's hard to set up only the first couple times. After that, you'll be laughing how easy it turns out to be.
Give Dosbox a try, if you have any problems or questions I'm here to help.

[MacCentris]

:titan:
Hi, just wanted to let you know that if you are a fan of the Zorks, I have made a board for nothing but Zork gamers, it is a true home for Zorksick people

Take a look around and don't forget to sign the Zork Petition to bring the Zork games back!
http://www.petitiononline.com/zg15/petition.html

This is the Zork Game Archive message board:
http://zorkgamearchive.proboards43.com/

:brain:


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Marzen @ Jan 6 2007, 10:08 PM) 273642</div>

Recently, i got a laptop. It used XP, and could run DOS games perfectly. I got dos box anyway, cause Star Con wouldnt work without it for some reason <_< ... And, lo and behold, it still didnt work. I then used Dos Box, after seeing you all talk about it here. Instead of the orb guy showing upblack bar a[ for 1 second, he didnt even show up. appeared for a second. and the people didnt make any noise, like before, but didnt move fast, which is a start :P... still the background music, though.

SO... ANNOYING :wallbash: ... I WANT TO PLAY IT! I'VE BEEN WANTING TO FOR YEARS :angry:

Oh well, ya cant get everything <_<
[/b]

Hi, in my message board, there is a step by step explanation on how to run Zork perfectly
with sound/music and all for windows XP and DOSBOX :)

sorry, can't post it here.... the message is exclusive to my message board because after all; I was the one who discovered how to get it to work ^_^

the setup proccess is a little different than the default setup, for example I will teach you how to make a shortcut to run RTZ (through DOSBOX) directly from your desktop, and how to use an exclusive RTZ configuration file (called zork.conf)

http://zorkgamearchive.proboards43.com/

[Grand Dad]

I have got the hang of DOSBox, at least part of it though it hasn't solved all my problems. I've yet to try RTZ on it :(.

[adamfrancuzik]

Too bad we can't download it here. I never got to finish this game when I was a kid. If I find it, I was wondering if any of you know if I can still use the original CD? Would it work on ScummVM?

[dosraider]

If I find it, I was wondering if any of you know if I can still use the original CD? Would it work on ScummVM?
As it's not listed on ScummVM's compatibility list: nope.
http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility.php

Good news is: it runs fine in dosbox-0.72.

[orieac]

As it's not listed on ScummVM's compatibility list: nope.
http://www.scummvm.org/compatibility.php




This game was recently added to ScummVM. So it is not officially supported, but it is completable. (http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/MADE)

[Maxor127]

I proved I wasn't crazy. I grew up playing the Mac version, and I remembered the actors being full motion video whenever they spoke. So I was disappointed when the DOS version just had a couple animations for the actors and just their mouths moved. I finally got to try out the Mac version again, and it's just as I remembered with full video for the actors.

[Saccade]

I would be interested in finding out more about the Mac version of this game, Maxor.

www.macintoshgarden.org doesn't seem to have it and I'd love to play it through with FMV.
:D
That'd rule...

[Maxor127]

I downloaded the .img from there before they ran out of bandwidth. Actually it's a torrent to an img. I think I deleted the torrent though. Their img didn't work anyways. It still asks for the actual CD for me. Oddly, it loaded if I had the DOS CD in, just didn't play the movies. I don't know if burning an image of the CD will work.

I wanted to make a video to show differences, but I need a good video/audio capture utility that will work with Basilisk II. Fraps didn't work and I could get video to work with CamStudio but not audio, and the video exported weird when I tried compressing it.

I'm interested in checking out the console versions now to see how they compare.

[Saccade]

Are you running on a MacOs emulator, or on a real-live, honest to betsy Mac?

[Maxor127]

I used Basilisk II. It will run the same on a real Mac minus all of the crashes I got when I clicked out of the emulator. The screen transition movies might work better on a real Mac too. I noticed they moved too fast to be noticeable in the emulator.

I couldn't get the Return to Zork image file to work because it still asked for the CD. But I own the real CD so I used that instead. Took a while to figure out how to get the emulator recognize it. I think I had to run the emulator as Administrator in Vista so the CD driver would work.

The characters talking and all of the crystal ball wizard segments are completely FMV whenever they talk. The DOS version seems to have a mix of FMV and basic animated mouths that reminds me of South Park. I tried capturing a video demo of meeting the rye guy since that's what most people remember, but had trouble capturing the audio.

[Maxor127]

I finally got around to making those videos.

Here's a video from youtube that matches what I see when I play the DOS version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3QEBTpFY2Y

And here's a quick video I made with the Mac version although I had trouble capturing audio so it has none:

http://tinypic.com/r/9rmvb6/6

[_r.u.s.s.]

^that's nice, thanks

[Surgeon]

I can't seem to be able to install this. The instructions are a bit confusing.

[Frodo]

I think it's pre-installed. Just use the .exe file to run the game. :)

[fleabag]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/403)

I don't know how many other people out threre are aware of the fact that at one time there was a game in this series written for the Commodore 128 computer called "Beyond Zork" (I know because I owned a copy of it at one time)!

[fleabag]

I can't seem to be able to install this. The instructions are a bit confusing.


Yes you can! Just copy it to a CD, then go to the CD you copied it to and type
'"'install" and follow the screen prompts (you will need the CD to observe all of the visual effects of the game).

[Seil]

So, I think I've got most of it:

I had troubles installing the game from the hard drive, so I used the burning program that came with my CD Burner, Nero, to burn a DATA CD of ALL the files in the zip file that I downloaded.

It allowed me to install Zork from the disc by clicking on install and following the instructions.

The problems I'm faced with are that the game moves incredibly quickly and I have no sound - looking back in this thread, I think they're related because the sound "synchs to the game" somehow. That being said, I've tried pretty much every combination I can think of and I can't get the sound to work.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Use DOSBox and you should have sound. Also, this is pre-installed and ready to run.

[Seil]

I can't use DOSBox.

It has not worked for me, no matter what I try.

[DarthHelmet86]

How come you can't use DOSBox? A little elaboration will allow us to actually help you.

[RWilco86]

I remeber when I thought the graphics in this game were fantastic! I've still got it in the box. Don't think i ever finished i though...

[RitingFool]

I have installed the game as instructed on the review page (directly from a route drive), and have configured my sound options. The game runs, but I do not get any intro movies (just the Infocom logo). Also, I doubt I'm running with the CD music (it doesn't sound like it, but I could be wrong).

I am running the game through ScummVM. When I start the game, it tells me that the file contains music files that need to be ripped in order to here the music. How do I do this? Is it even possible?

Any and all help is appreciated.

Regards,
Michael

UPDATE: I got it working!

P.S. I can get it running in DosBox, but again, no movies. I tried the configuration that someone in this thread suggested (by creating a special Zork.conf file), but this didn't work for my movie problem, or the music (that I can tell).

[Commodore418]

If you like this game please check this link
http://igg.me/p/39597?i=shlk
I'm currently working on this and would appreciate any comments, help, etc.