Win98-not Enough Ems For "underworld"?

[twist]

i recently partitioned a 20gb deLL inspiron (1100) Laptop with XP-home on the originaL partition. i then instaLLed win98 on the new partition & tried to instaLL & run "UnderWorLd" but i canNOT get past the "Not enough EMS..." error.When i go into the "uw.exe" "properties menu/memory-tab/EMS memory-detaiLs" I get the message "Third-party memory-management software has not been configured for expanded memory ...bLabLabLa". After googLing the probLem & searching through past forum postings here - i tried reconfiguring my "config.sys" file 5 different ways; tried running it thru the "dosBox"; & even tried writing a "pif" fiLe. But so far NOTHING is working! what makes this even more frustating is that I successfuLLy performed this same partitioning operation on my desktop & encountered no probLems with "UnderworLd" or any of the other oLd games i've downLoaded. The whoLe point of putting a win98 partition on my husband's Laptop is for the "gaming". i reaLLy hope somebody can heLp me get past this snag.
pLeez heLp ... :crazy:

[Data]

well dosbox would work.

but no ems on a new pc is a common problem. it's caused by the bios taking up essential memory for the ems pageframe.

There is one thing you can do about it.: Disable everything onboard in the bios:
this includes network card/usb/usb legacy.

then reboot and see if ems works. if it does you know the problem (one that can not be solved) else you can search futher.

[mouse31e]

Originally posted by Data@Jan 17 2005, 08:43 AM
well dosbox would work.
If you run DosBox run it on the WinXP partition.

It isn't designed to work with Win98 - in fact I don't think it works at all with Win98. :blink:

[xoopx]

back in the days, a lot of dos games gave people this kind of trouble (and worse) even though they had the right era of pc for the task.
dosbox solves all!

[mouse31e]

Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 17 2005, 09:08 AM
dosbox solves all!
more or less.

There are still some games that don't run in it!

twist@ I didn't totally understand what you'd tried before so I assume you did try opening the program properties, going to the memory tab and setting the available EMS to the maximum! If not that might be worth a go!

[twist]

>>>"twist@ I didn't totally understand what you'd tried before so I assume you did try opening the program properties, going to the memory tab and setting the available EMS to the maximum! If not that might be worth a go!"<<<

sorry, i kno i threw alot of info up in one breath (so to speak). Yes, i went into the memory tab after opening the program properties & it doesn't even give me the option of setting my EMS - it sez "the computer is not configured for expanded memory in ms-dos sessions." Then when i click on the "detaiLs" button i get the "third-party memory-management software has not been configured for expanded memory ..." that i mentioned in my first post.

[xoopx]

Originally posted by mouse31e+Jan 17 2005, 09:09 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mouse31e @ Jan 17 2005, 09:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-xoopx@Jan 17 2005, 09:08 AM
dosbox solves all!
more or less.

There are still some games that don't run in it!

twist@ I didn't totally understand what you'd tried before so I assume you did try opening the program properties, going to the memory tab and setting the available EMS to the maximum! If not that might be worth a go! [/b][/quote]
aye. dont forget to add the non-playing games to the dosbox database!

[twist]

the fact that i can't "reach" my EMS settings because my computer isn't even configured for it is the most confusing piece of my probLem. So far i haven't been abLe to make ANY sense of it. i appreciate everyone who has taken the time to "ponder the confusion" with me ...thanx!

meThinx i'm going mad ...:tease:

[Eagle of Fire]

You are supposed to have a special line in your autoexec.bat or config.sys to allow EMS on your machine (if you don't have any by default). I can't help you to make that file tough, I'm far from knowing this by hearth and my reference is gone ATM.

[Data]

Originally posted by mouse31e+Jan 17 2005, 10:00 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mouse31e @ Jan 17 2005, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Data@Jan 17 2005, 08:43 AM
well dosbox would work.
If you run DosBox run it on the WinXP partition.

It isn't designed to work with Win98 - in fact I don't think it works at all with Win98. :blink: [/b][/quote]
it runs fine on windows 98.

one game not working is not excuse to discard dosbox for that os.

believe me it works fine on win98

[mouse31e]

Sorry. I misunderstood. :blink:

I was under the impression that DosBox didn't work on Win98!

I shall remember that! :D

Now I come to think of it - I don't even know where I got that idea from! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Rogue]

twist,
Open your config.sys file for editing (notepad is fine; file is in C drive, root directory (top directory).

Look if there is a line similar to this:

DEVICE=EMM386.EXE NOEMS

and change it to

DEVICE=EMM386.EXE RAM

Reboot computer and try game again.

[Eagle of Fire]

Now I come to think of it - I don't even know where I got that idea from!Probably from the numerous persons posting in troubleshooting stating it doesn't work on Win98... ;)

Anubis: you got it right. If it's not it it's really close.

[twist]

GOT IT :Brain: :w00t: !!! . . . . . :whistle:

i came back to share my Fix in case somebody eLse runs into the same probLem. In my search for an answer i was made aware that Laptops, & in particuLar, deLL Laptops have (as one tek put it) an "eviL memory gremLin". Adding the foLLowing Line to my Config.sys FiLe has (so far) banished my gremLin:

DEVICE=C:\EMM386.EXE 1024 FRAME=D000

I reaLLy appreciate the great responses i received here ... :tnx:

p.s. fun smiLies!!!

[Titan]

I think we'r gonna fetch this also into some sort of FAQ..

Nice helping ppl!

[twist]

hey Titan - why the "ban pLz" smiLie? am i missing something?
just wondering ... :max:

[FreeFreddy]

It's his way to show that he has the power. Don't mind it, you won't be banned. ;)

[Eagle of Fire]

I think it was a joke reply of your PS. ;)

[twist]

O ...ok :rolleyes:

thanx guys LOL

[MasterGrazzt]

Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox. Use DOSBox!

[HELP!]

Comrades, I got Dosbox, I downloaded UW2, I mounted the folder containing the files of the game as C in Dosbox. I tried to run every bat com exe, but the game won't run. I have WinME, P4 1.4 Ghz, 512 DDRam, and I get the following error message when I type Uw2:


EMS Allocated
Cannot run underworld
Could not read Data. Error Code D001

This is the second time I downloaded the game, but it won't work. HELP!