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Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 06:58 PM
New upcoming adventure games. Which do you think will be the best???

A vampyre Story is an adventure game being made by ex-LucasArts employees and being directed by Bill Tiller, the director of Monkey Island 3. It stars a female vampire and a wise-cracking vampire bat. It will be available for sale in the USA in Spring 2006.
Site is http://www.amegames.com and http://www.bad-brain.com

Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth is a fanmade sequel to Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. It has been long awaited and is still well on it's way. It will be available for free download late 2005. Indy will go off in search of the fabled Fountain of Youth.http://www.barnettcollege.com

Broken Sword 2.5 is another fanmade sequel to Broken Sword 1 and a prequel to Broken Sword 2. George Stobbart once again comes face to face with the evil Templars. Who can he trust??? It is due for free download sometime early this year. Also for those with low bandwith who can't download it when it's finished, the team will send you a copy through the mail free.
http://bs2.devforge.de

The Organistics is an adventure game being made by the publishers of A Vampyre Story. Status unknown. It is due December 2006. http://www.bad-brain.com

The rise of the Hidden Sun is a freeware adventure game not yet finished. It is an western adventure game starring a rough and tumble cowboy named Jake Dawson. It boast some great backgrounds and art. http://www.chapter11studios.com/index.htm

DOTT 2 is currently unknown in status. All it has right now is a trailer and the horrible thought that it might only be in German. http://www.dott2.de

Danny252
10-01-2005, 07:00 PM
I must say I've never heard of them.. any of them... sorry!

wormpaul
10-01-2005, 07:00 PM
i MISS:

Longest Yourney 2!!!!!!!!!

How could you miss that one :tomato: :tomato:

Kon-Tiki
10-01-2005, 07:00 PM
I vote for Ninja Forever.

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 07:02 PM
Then check the sites for info.
Sorry. I never heard of Longest Journey.

Borodin
10-01-2005, 07:05 PM
You can find out about The Longest Journey here (http://www.longestjourney.com/). It's a breakout title, in some respects, and a second one is expected either in 2005 or 2006.

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 07:08 PM
ok thanks
some screens of a vampyre story
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/vampscreen1.jpg
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/vampscreen2.jpg
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/vampscreen3.jpg
http://www.2dadventure.com/ags/vampscreen4.jpg

wormpaul
10-01-2005, 07:09 PM
Longest yourney was one of the best adventures of the last year..

You should really start playing it :ok:

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 07:12 PM
I may. Is it point and click?

wormpaul
10-01-2005, 07:15 PM
A very traditional adventure...

with a more then good story in it :ok:

mikebarry
10-01-2005, 07:19 PM
I actually hadn't heard of any of these games either. Where have I been? :blink:
Vampire Adventure looks really good.

I can't wait until AGD (http://www.agdinteractive.com) is done with their QFG2 remake. :w00t:

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 07:21 PM
Check the games websites to find out about them and see some of their work. The Indiana Jones 2 demo will be up soon. Vamp story is bein made by ex-Lucasarts employees. You''l have to buy it when it comes out though. The broken sword 2.5 demo is already up.

xoopx
10-01-2005, 07:50 PM
i quite liked the longest journey but i never got around to finishing it.
im looking forward to longest journey 2

Omuletzu
10-01-2005, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Fawfulhasfury@Jan 10 2005, 10:02 PM
Sorry. I never heard of Longest Journey.
:eeeeeh: you must not be a big fan of the genre then...
Longest journey is one of the best post-dos period adventure game!

Son_Of_The_Nephilim
10-01-2005, 07:56 PM
hmm... i have never heard of any of these games before. that vampire adventure though seems promising enough, ex-lucasarts employees are behind it ? no that's a quality guarantee :ok:

xoopx
10-01-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Omuletzu+Jan 10 2005, 08:52 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Omuletzu @ Jan 10 2005, 08:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Fawfulhasfury@Jan 10 2005, 10:02 PM
Sorry. I never heard of Longest Journey.
:eeeeeh: you must not be a big fan of the genre then...
Longest journey is one of the best post-dos period adventure game! [/b][/quote]
i think it was because funcom isnt a very big company and cant afford the advertising and bribes to magazines and websites

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 08:00 PM
I am a fan. They are my favorite genre actually. But I do not keep up to date with 3D adventure games. So. I might try it though. Thanks And don't underestimate Broken Sword 2.5, Indy 2, and the western one just yet. I've seen more from them than you have and they could be as good as something that LucasArts did. Don't downgrade freelance developers. They are better than you think. BTW I'm surprised that DOTT 2 got so much attention when it's gonna be the last one finished out of the bunch.

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Looks like Bad Brain will be making the vampyre story for Xbox and PC. The developerss and publishers of vampyre are also negotiating rights to Sam and Max 2. They have a demo of A vampyre story, but it isn't going to be released for a little while. The demo will be out for E3 and will be available for download after that. Sam and Max 2 was 70% done actually, which leaves 30% for the AVS team if they get the game. Then they may or may not get the game finished before A vampyre Story. Ex-disney and pixar employees will also be working on the title.
There are plans for an AVS cartoon series and a possible animated movie starring a dog and a rabbit(don't have to say who). The person responsible for those characters REALLY liked that idea.

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 09:22 PM
Go to http://www.the-inventory.org (http://www.theinventory.org) and download the latest inventory mag to find out more about A vampyre story and its goals and history.

Flammo80
10-01-2005, 10:15 PM
I voted Dott2, I'd probably be dissapointed with a sequel this late after the first release. Oh well.

I've missed most of the games you listed. Thats because I'm living in the past reliving classics every day ;)

The adventure genre is going to muck anyway it seems.

Fawfulhasfury
10-01-2005, 10:18 PM
Um, LucasArts isn't doing DOTT2. It's fanmade also. A Vampyre Story and Sam and Max 2 are the only games being made by ex-LucasArts employees. Don't expect muck to come from Bad Brain. These guys worked on Sam and Max 1 and 2, Mi 1-4, Dott, and every other LucasArts game. The bg artist from MI3 is doing their bgs also.

wendymaree
11-01-2005, 03:48 AM
The demo I watched for Indiana Jones FOY was *amazing*. Can't wait for it to be released. And it's free! The screenshots for A Vampyre Story look really good. This is going to be another good one. :w00t: Thanks for sharing all the info, Fawful. I like knowing about the latest and greatest.

Borodin
11-01-2005, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 10 2005, 08:56 PM
i think it was because funcom isnt a very big company and cant afford the advertising and bribes to magazines and websites
I don't think it's advertising that drives the presence of reviews in magazines, but regular, sustained attempts to contact the press. Many developers, especially those that aren't located in the a magazine's home country, have difficulty doing this. When I wanted to do a review of The Longest Journey, my contact was the company owner. He was very genial, but told me Funcom didn't maintain a database of reviewers or magazines. I received a copy from overseas, and reviewed it, but he expressed no interest in the content to use for future promotion.

By contrast, the big game companies are aggressive in getting their products under the eyes of magazine editors and reviewers. They don't have to buy advertising to do this. They only have to enthuse a few people about their game. I've known sober editors in my day who turned into little kids upon being shown playable demos of some games.

Finally, stating that magazines do or don't do reviews on the basis of bribes is both harsh, and the kind of accusation that screams for proof when it's made. If you have proof, state it. If you don't, maybe you ought to consider how that kind of unsubstantiated accusation reflects upon you before making it.

cheesegrater
11-01-2005, 04:16 AM
Vampyre Story because I love vamires. I want to be a vampire. I eat count-dracula cereal in hopes that someday I will transform into a vampire.

Fawfulhasfury
11-01-2005, 02:56 PM
Well, borodin. Believe me. Bad Brain intends using their teams past as a marketing ploy. Expect the game to be great. The company bad brain was actually founded in the sole purpose of funding adventure games. And don't worry. This won't be their last adventure game. Whether this one sells good or not, they plan to keep making adventure games till their last breath. On quote. BTW there was a Sam and Max fangame being made called The Case Gilbert, but the maker mysteriously disappeared. I hope Sam and Max 2 doesn't jinx bad brain like it has all the others. :sneaky:

Borodin
11-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Well, borodin. Believe me. Bad Brain intends using their teams past as a marketing ploy. Expect the game to be great. The company bad brain was actually founded in the sole purpose of funding adventure games.

I never thought otherwise. The designers appear to be some of the best talent various other companies ever had, including Lucasarts.

Whether this one sells good or not, they plan to keep making adventure games till their last breath.

I hope you're right, but many vaunting efforts have died for lack of enthusiasm. However, if the games live up to expectations, and word gets out about them, I think they'll do well enough. Any idea when the first title will appear?

Fawfulhasfury
11-01-2005, 04:17 PM
Their online quiz show will be up June 2005. A vampyre story will be done April of 2006.

Borodin
11-01-2005, 04:21 PM
Just noticed this:

Oslo, Norway - February 18, 2004 - Funcom was recently awarded a grant from the Norwegian Film Fund to partially finance the development of Dreamfall, the long-awaited follow-up to The Longest Journey . The Norwegian government has, for the first time, actively endorsed game development, marking a welcome shift in the cultural acceptance of computer games as a medium comparable to film and television.

This is the kind of open-minded foundation that I wish we had in the US. Good for them!

Fawfulhasfury
11-01-2005, 04:29 PM
cool. :ok:

edlglide
12-01-2005, 04:53 AM
I really didn't like the Longest Journey that much; I thought it was overrated. Sort of like Syberia 1 and 2, which aren't great games at all. Longest Journey is better than those though. In any case, I voted for the Indy game -- Fate of Atlantis is probably one of my 3 favorite adventures.

xoopx
12-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Borodin+Jan 11 2005, 05:11 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Borodin @ Jan 11 2005, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-xoopx@Jan 10 2005, 08:56 PM
i think it was because funcom isnt a very big company and cant afford the advertising and bribes to magazines and websites
I don't think it's advertising that drives the presence of reviews in magazines, but regular, sustained attempts to contact the press. Many developers, especially those that aren't located in the a magazine's home country, have difficulty doing this. When I wanted to do a review of The Longest Journey, my contact was the company owner. He was very genial, but told me Funcom didn't maintain a database of reviewers or magazines. I received a copy from overseas, and reviewed it, but he expressed no interest in the content to use for future promotion.

By contrast, the big game companies are aggressive in getting their products under the eyes of magazine editors and reviewers. They don't have to buy advertising to do this. They only have to enthuse a few people about their game. I've known sober editors in my day who turned into little kids upon being shown playable demos of some games.

Finally, stating that magazines do or don't do reviews on the basis of bribes is both harsh, and the kind of accusation that screams for proof when it's made. If you have proof, state it. If you don't, maybe you ought to consider how that kind of unsubstantiated accusation reflects upon you before making it. [/b][/quote]
the "proof" i need is when terrible games get 9/10 ratings. ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind)
frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.

edlglide
12-01-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 12 2005, 11:08 AM

the "proof" i need is when terrible games get 9/10 ratings. ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind)
frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.
Well........the only place I ever really read reviews on is IGN.com, and I've yet to disagree with any of their reviews. Occasionally I've thought a game deserved slightly higher or slightly lower, but never anything drastic. So I certainly don't agree with your opinion regarding that particular site -- never have I seen them give a bad game a good score.

Omuletzu
12-01-2005, 06:12 PM
Gamespot does a pretty good job at reviewing games :ok:

edlglide
12-01-2005, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Omuletzu@Jan 12 2005, 07:12 PM
Gamespot does a pretty good job at reviewing games :ok:
I'm not really a big fan of Gamespot -- but it's not necessarily because I think they do a bad job reviewing. I don't check their reviews much so I wouldn't know..........I just vastly prefer the site layout on IGN to the one on Gamespot. And since they generally do a good job at IGN I don't have to bother checking out other places.

BlackMageJawa
12-01-2005, 06:29 PM
Revolution is supposed to be making Beneath A Steel Sky 2 at the moment.

Out of those ones though, I'm going to have to say that Vampyre Story looks coolest. It's going to be a retail game though, right? I just hope it makes it to the UK.

xoopx
12-01-2005, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by edlglide+Jan 12 2005, 07:08 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (edlglide @ Jan 12 2005, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-xoopx@Jan 12 2005, 11:08 AM

the "proof" i need is when terrible games get 9/10 ratings. ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind)
frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.
Well........the only place I ever really read reviews on is IGN.com, and I've yet to disagree with any of their reviews. Occasionally I've thought a game deserved slightly higher or slightly lower, but never anything drastic. So I certainly don't agree with your opinion regarding that particular site -- never have I seen them give a bad game a good score. [/b][/quote]
heh im talking about paper magazines, not internet ones. you modern kids!

Fawfulhasfury
12-01-2005, 06:47 PM
It will be in the U.K. It will be in the us and france and italy and many other countries. Yes it is retail.

Borodin
12-01-2005, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 12 2005, 11:08 AM
the "proof" i need is when terrible games get 9/10 ratings. ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind)
frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.
Had you said some of their reviewers were simply bad, without any critical sense, or without any knowledge of their fields going back more than a year or two, I suspect there'd be general agreement. Because we all know of reviews that show little thought or organization, or simply, mindlessly repeat PR blurbs that make as little sense in a reviewer's mouth as they did when they were first put to paper. There are also obvious cases where reviewers were simply pressed for time, played an hour or two, and related their immediate, very positive impressions though the products were truly dogs. I've seen that happen too often, in magazines from Compute! and PC Games (in the old days) to PC Gamer and CGW. Being on a tight schedule really doesn't justify poor journalism, in my opinion.

A claim of bribery is more serious. You or I could be accused on occasion of thoughtlessness or poor organization. Probably true, too, over any decent lifetime. But accusing either of us of bribery is an allegation of a very specific act, unlike generalized thoughtlessness. It's easy to fling around, especially on the Web, where people often talk trash without having a single fact to back it up. But in order for our opinions to be worth something, they have to deal with at least a semblance of facts. If they don't, they cheapen us, not their intended targets.

Borodin
12-01-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 12 2005, 07:38 PM
heh im talking about paper magazines, not internet ones. you modern kids!
I second this. When I first started writing, there were still magazines for Kaypro users. And even as late as the late 1980s, PC Magazine did a roundup of word processors (under DOS, the only PC-based operating system at the time): 28 in all. How things have changed, now! We have one word processor that supposedly fits all needs, and endless game reviews on the Web that often show no knowledge of grammar, critical facility, or any product more than two years old.

When I first joined GameBanshee, a new member wanted his review of Baldur's Gate 2 judged. He treated it as though RPGs were a new phenomenon, and said the first ever made was Diablo. :blink: With reviews like that, I'm afraid less is more.

edlglide
12-01-2005, 10:52 PM
Well, I used to get Computer Gaming World.........I have a stack of 2 or 3 years worth at my parent's house from the mid or late 90s I think. The best one was their list of the 100 greatest computer games -- whether I agreed or not wasn't the point; I just love looking at lists. But yeah, I only use IGN.com now because there's no reason to buy a paper magazine when I can get constantly updated information from the Internet.

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't even call Diablo an RPG. It's really just a third person action game.

Fawfulhasfury
13-01-2005, 12:08 AM
OK, this is getting off topic. Please continue the discussion on websites and their reviews by pm or instant messanger or another topic or I will have no choice but to ask that this topic be closed. Understand. Thank you. Keep on topic.

Borodin
13-01-2005, 12:12 AM
True. Anyway, it is refreshing to see that some of the old Lucasarts people involved in developing adventure games are now making a go at it, elsewhere.

Fawfulhasfury
13-01-2005, 12:17 AM
Yep. I asked to join them as a pencil artist. LOL Can't wait for the reply saying no way. LOL

Stebbi
13-01-2005, 07:18 PM
Why the hell didnt you put Monkey island 5 or GrimFandango2 :ranting: :ranting:

wormpaul
13-01-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Stebbi@Jan 13 2005, 08:18 PM
Why the hell didnt you put Monkey island 5 or GrimFandango2 :ranting: :ranting:
Because still not official that they will come :whistle:

Fawfulhasfury
14-01-2005, 12:58 AM
Exactly. BTW The chars in a vampyre story will be a cell-shaded 3D on 2D backgrounds. Don't let this throw you off, its still point and click and it has the MI3 style verb coin interface. :ok:

CodyJarrett
22-01-2005, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 10 2005, 08:56 PM
ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind) frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.
Can you give some examples of the Amiga games in question please?

Hooba
24-01-2005, 06:27 PM
http://www.sq7.org/

Not too sure if sq7 will ever be out...
But...
Sounds promising.
They have part of the staff from previous space quest games working on it.
Hopefully it'll be a blast.

xoopx
25-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by CodyJarrett+Jan 22 2005, 10:45 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CodyJarrett @ Jan 22 2005, 10:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-xoopx@Jan 10 2005, 08:56 PM
ive seen magazine slate a game that wasnt terrible, because they had arguments with the game company over previous things (amiga power and team 17 springs to mind) frankly, i dont need to PROVE anything related to my opinion to you or anyone else. if you dont like it, thats not my problem.
Can you give some examples of the Amiga games in question please? [/b][/quote]
amiga power and amiga format fell out with team17, and they ended up having to buy the games in the shop to review them. needless to say, they got terrible reviews. they gave alien breed 3d about 25% or something. it was a pretty sucky game, but it wasnt THAT bad.
those same magazines gave 'akira' game for amiga about 17%, which was fair, but some other magazines gave the game 80. you could see this disparity for several games, but it was a long time ago and i cant remember that many specific titles.

CodyJarrett
06-02-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by xoopx@Jan 25 2005, 07:43 PM

amiga power and amiga format fell out with team17, and they ended up having to buy the games in the shop to review them. needless to say, they got terrible reviews. they gave alien breed 3d about 25% or something. it was a pretty sucky game, but it wasnt THAT bad.
those same magazines gave 'akira' game for amiga about 17%, which was fair, but some other magazines gave the game 80. you could see this disparity for several games, but it was a long time ago and i cant remember that many specific titles.
Amiga Power gave Alien Breed 3D 91%. Alien Breed 3D II: The Killing Grounds received 54% for the 2Mb version, 59% for the 4Mb version and a "mid-60s" score on an accelerated Amiga.

Amiga Format gave Alien Breed 3D 93% and Alien Breed 3D II 96%.

AP continued to give a variety of percentages to Team 17 games after their disagreement - some low (38% for ATR) and some high (91% for Arcade Pool CD32). (And it should be noted that AP used the full percentage score, so 40% in AP would be equivalent to 70% in some other Amiga magazines).