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_r.u.s.s.
28-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Birthright - The Gorgon's Alliance

Info: MobyGames (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/birthright-the-gorgons-alliance)

Download(s):
4shared (http://www.4shared.com/dir/18173271/2f388c0c/BIRTH.html) [CloneCD] [477 MB] +Boxshots +Patch

Uploaded by: Ermuli (http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/../user/8977)


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Mike_B20
29-07-2009, 10:47 AM
This is an excellent strategy game.
Once one gets used to the interface, the adventuring is also well designed and fun, even if the graphics are a bit dated.
The voice acting is a bit corny.
"I'll get on that right away" LOL :hysterical:

All up :thumbs:

Axiom
07-02-2012, 11:37 PM
How to install this?

I downloaded everything, I try to mount it in Dosbox

mount d c:\birthright -t cdrom

it cannot find the cd.

There is a CCD file and a CUE file and I try clicking on those and I get an error about incompatibility issue with windows 64 bit

Any ideas?

hunvagy
08-02-2012, 07:13 AM
How to install this?

I downloaded everything, I try to mount it in Dosbox

mount d c:\birthright -t cdrom

it cannot find the cd.

There is a CCD file and a CUE file and I try clicking on those and I get an error about incompatibility issue with windows 64 bit

Any ideas?

I assume you mounted the image in Daemon Tools or the like and tried to mount that drive? In that case try -t cdrom -ioctl. If it still gives the error, check the volume label of the disc, and use the option for mount where you can give a name to the volume you mount, make it the same as the virtual drive reads.

Since it has a cue file, you could also try using imgmount to mount the iso directly in dosbox, should use the correct volume label then.

Smiling Spectre
08-02-2012, 06:13 PM
mount d c:\birthright -t cdrom

it cannot find the cd.

There is a CCD file and a CUE file and I try clicking on those and I get an error about incompatibility issue with windows 64 bit
Two errors.

1. You need to mount disc C: for, well, HDD. I think, you did it? But you need to have access to content of disc image, not files of image itself! (CCD and CUE). So your d mount will accomplish nothing.

2. So you need some means of emulating program to access real content of this disk - and, it seems, you have nothing. You can directly mount disk with imgmount, or emulate it with Daemon Tools (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/eng/products/dtLite). I, personally, recommend you second case, as it will give you access to more image formats and, well, will allow you to mount your images with simple double click. :)

Only remember: mounting image is like inserting real CD in virtual CD-drive. You will need to mount this CD-drive in DOSBox afterwards. (Of course, if it's internal mount of imgmount, you will not need to mount it second time :).

Axiom
09-02-2012, 12:04 AM
First off thanks for the reply,

Second, sorry... I should have mentioned that the image was mounted in daemon tools. So it was mounted but it still kept saying it cannot find the CD.

The sad thing is I managed to get Daggerfall working and that game took a lot of tinkering. This one stumps me for some reason.

So, mounting in Daemon tools? Check.
Mount d c:\birthright -t cdrom to emulate the cdrom drive? Check!

When I type dir I see the contents of the directory so i know i am in the right place.

Run the executable... cant find cd.

Hmmm.

EDIT: by running the executable, I mean mounting birthright, typing d: to switch to that drive and typing birthright at the prompt

Two errors.

1. You need to mount disc C: for, well, HDD. I think, you did it? But you need to have access to content of disc image, not files of image itself! (CCD and CUE). So your d mount will accomplish nothing.

2. So you need some means of emulating program to access real content of this disk - and, it seems, you have nothing. You can directly mount disk with imgmount, or emulate it with Daemon Tools (http://www.daemon-tools.cc/eng/products/dtLite). I, personally, recommend you second case, as it will give you access to more image formats and, well, will allow you to mount your images with simple double click. :)

Only remember: mounting image is like inserting real CD in virtual CD-drive. You will need to mount this CD-drive in DOSBox afterwards. (Of course, if it's internal mount of imgmount, you will not need to mount it second time :).

DarthHelmet86
09-02-2012, 02:37 AM
Your mount is wrong, you are mounting a folder on your C drive as the CD drive. You need to mount the Virtual Drive that has the image as the CD drive in Dosbox.

Something like mount d e:\ -tcdrom

Axiom
09-02-2012, 11:47 PM
Your mount is wrong, you are mounting a folder on your C drive as the CD drive. You need to mount the Virtual Drive that has the image as the CD drive in Dosbox.

Something like mount d e:\ -tcdrom

Just saw this too.

Sorry I am being so dense, but can you explain how to mount this? (I should've put this in the Troubleshooting forums). Like I said, I normally do not have this much trouble with doxbox, been using it for years. For some reason thought this game is giving me endless trouble.

DarthHelmet86
10-02-2012, 01:59 AM
You know you actually edited out the one thing that would have helped people help you. Luckily I read this in my email and I know what your mounted drive is, it is G.

mount d g:\ -tcdrom

That will mount the drive with the image mounted. Your normal C drive mounts are untouched.

dosraider
10-02-2012, 05:28 AM
mount d g:\ -tcdrom
Tipo? Should be:
mount d g:\ -t cdrom

Axiom
12-02-2012, 10:56 PM
You know you actually edited out the one thing that would have helped people help you. Luckily I read this in my email and I know what your mounted drive is, it is G.

mount d g:\ -tcdrom

That will mount the drive with the image mounted. Your normal C drive mounts are untouched.

Sorry about that, I am in China and sometimes abandonia doesn't work quite right for me... but that is another thread.

Anyway, so

mount d g:\ -t cdrom worked! from there I type d: then install. The game takes me to a set up screen and the game is set up to install. the default install location is <3:\sierra\birthrt and when I try to change the directory, I can change the sierra/birthrt part but not the heart <3. Then when I try to install I get a message it cannot create <3:\sierra\birthrt


Any ideas?

hunvagy
13-02-2012, 06:13 AM
Sorry about that, I am in China and sometimes abandonia doesn't work quite right for me... but that is another thread.

Anyway, so

mount d g:\ -t cdrom worked! from there I type d: then install. The game takes me to a set up screen and the game is set up to install. the default install location is <3:\sierra\birthrt and when I try to change the directory, I can change the sierra/birthrt part but not the heart <3. Then when I try to install I get a message it cannot create <3:\sierra\birthrt


Any ideas?

Did you also mount one of your directories as the C: drive? Since it requires a HDD install, you also have to mount a directory on your real hard drive to function as the virtual hard drive. Like mount c: c:\mygames\ or something.

Axiom
13-02-2012, 10:48 PM
Did you also mount one of your directories as the C: drive? Since it requires a HDD install, you also have to mount a directory on your real hard drive to function as the virtual hard drive. Like mount c: c:\mygames\ or something.

Hmm, not sure I understand.

so I would have to type the following;

mount c e:\-t cdrom

and then

mount c c:\birthright

then

c:

install

Should that work?

the game is in a folder on my c drive, the daemon tools drive is e

By the way thank you so much for taking the time for helping me out with this. I do tech support at the company I am at so I know its sometimes a pain to help newbs :)

Japo
13-02-2012, 11:34 PM
No, it's wrong, you're mounting two different things to the same drive letter C, so the second one will overwrite the first one.

First make the folder "c:\dos" in Windows. Then launch DOSBox and enter "mount C c:\dos", then "mound D e:\ -t cdrom". Then (with the CD in the tray) enter "D:" and then "install".

If you install it to "c:\sierra\birthrt" in DOSBox, in Windows you'll have it at "c:\dos\sierra\birthrt", because "mount c c:\dos" means that you mount "c:\dos" as "c:\" inside DOSBox. The c: disk inside DOSBox is different from the one outside in Windows, it can be anything.

Axiom
14-02-2012, 03:55 AM
Sorry about the double post... this is kind of what i meant... sometimes this board acts super weird for me

Axiom
14-02-2012, 07:32 AM
Did you also mount one of your directories as the C: drive? Since it requires a HDD install, you also have to mount a directory on your real hard drive to function as the virtual hard drive. Like mount c: c:\mygames\ or something.


sigh, sometimes I see a reply to this, and sometimes I don't. Curse you Great Fire wall!

Axiom
29-02-2012, 07:40 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to the folks here for helping me to get this game working!

Many thanks!

Lothyr
06-02-2013, 07:05 AM
Hello Fellow Iso Cellar Visitors:

Thanks to the folks who made this and other old games available.

I had bought Birthright many years ago, but due to a poor PC at the time, the game lost interest for me {bugs, etc.}. 15 years later, I am back in Anuire(sp?) and loving it. That game, although poorly rec'd, has a huge value for me just based on the huge amount of text that can be perused. Just interesting reading imho.

So, I just wanted to leave a few tips on setting up Birthtright: The Gorgon's Alliance on a newer machine for those who might have a similar rig to me.

Graphics on a Wide Screen LCD:

I tested out several options, and this one gives a pretty good interface:

1) If you can, set your monitor to 4:3 aspect
2) Birthright was originally 640x480 {4:3 aspect} - my widescreen was set up as 16:9 but when I want to play Birthright I switch to a resolution of 1280x960...after changing aspect to 4:3 - it is not the BEST but we're talking DOS graphics...Black borders on East/West sides of my screen.
3) open dosbox's config option batch file and enter w/e settings you need, in graphics, if your setup is like mine, this worked very nicely:

fullscreen=true
fulldouble=true
fullresolution=0x0
windowresolution=0x0
output=overlay
autolock=true
sensitivity=100
waitonerror=true
priority=higher,normal
mapperfile=mapper.txt
usescancodes=true

machine=svga_s3

frameskip=0
aspect=false
scaler=normal2x

The graphics end up filling the screen area that they can and have crisp graphics much as if the game was at original resolution...

If your having trouble mounting the game:

Autoexec:

mount C c:\0dos
mount D F:\ -t cdrom
c:
cd \sierra\
birthrt

Of course you would need to install the game to a folder called 0dos on your c: drive, after mounting the game ISO via Daemon tools or w/e as a D: virtual CD drive...as far as I am aware, the DOS version of the game doesn't allow use of the Character Editor that Sierra still has available on the Help page

The Chared.exe requires a Windows NT version of the game, and as I am running DOS, this is not working for me as yet, if I find the solution I'll post back here...

The details on the graphics I give credit to an Indian fellow who posted a YouTube video about setting up Dosbox to use a widescreen LCD...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo1PaNf3y7Q