Mixed genre games

[Surgeon]

What are your favorite mixed genre games (the type of the ol' Robin Hood, or the new Dreamfall)?

[AlumiuN]

System Shock! Woooooooo! :)

[Japo]

Star Control II

[mexbrush]

Star Control II

One of the best to boost the effect I read A.C. Clarke's Rama and keep watching Battlestar Galactica when I was playing it again.

One of the greatest even.

[Surgeon]

How about something we have - like Pilgrim's Quest?

[Tulac]

Star Control II
Amen to that.

[Simoneer]

...Favorite genre mixes are action-adventure and action RPG, I think. O.o

Too many good games goes into there that I cannot really mention just one. But hmm... I seriously love genre mixing.

[Yes Or Nay]

I liked the blend of action/RPG/adventure in Mass Effect, adventure/action in Dark Earth and of course the mix of strategy/RPG (although that is pretty common round' these days) in HoM&M. :)

So yes, I am mixed genre games positive. Yet the line, dividing the two genres, has to be masterfuly camouflaged, otherwise the game may become too boring/straightforward. :)

[Surgeon]

I liked the blend of action/RPG/adventure in Mass Effect, adventure/action in Dark Earth and of course the mix of strategy/RPG (although that is pretty common round' these days) in HoM&M. :)

So yes, I am mixed genre games positive. Yet the line, dividing the two genres, has to be masterfuly camouflaged, otherwise the game may become too boring/straightforward. :)

Like in...Battle for Middle Earth?

Also, seriously, what's everyone's take on BFME? I absolutely adore the game, and yet I see that it didn't achieve Warcraft-range fame, and that that even the game's worthless drat sequal, improved by its expansion pack which transformed it into completely un-Lord of the Rings, is actually significantly more notable. :hihihi:

[Yes Or Nay]

Like in...Battle for Middle Earth?

Also, seriously, what's everyone's take on BFME? I absolutely adore the game, and yet I see that it didn't achieve Warcraft-range fame, and that that even the game's worthless drat sequal, improved by its expansion pack which transformed it into completely un-Lord of the Rings, is actually significantly more notable. :hihihi:

Never did I play that one, so I can't judge. Although I'm quite a fan of Mr. Tolkien's work I somewhat found the newer games based in Middle-earth disappointing.

To give my statement atleast some background, let me mention Mark of Chaos 2. Never played it either, yet in reviews I read that there are some rather nice RPG elements. :)

[Panthro]

Quest for Glory (Adventure/RPG)
Diablo (Action/RPG)

[Surgeon]

I liked the blend of action/RPG/adventure in Mass Effect, adventure/action in Dark Earth and of course the mix of strategy/RPG (although that is pretty common round' these days) in HoM&M. :)

So yes, I am mixed genre games positive. Yet the line, dividing the two genres, has to be masterfuly camouflaged, otherwise the game may become too boring/straightforward. :)

Quest for Glory (Adventure/RPG)
Diablo (Action/RPG)

I am one of those Diablo-haters. :embarassed:

I also don't think it really falls under mixed.

[rabadi]

Evil Islands: Curse of the Lost Soul, the *sequel* to Rage of Mages series, combining RPG, stealth, and a bit of strategy. Nice one, I recently played it.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Space Hulk (FPS/strategy)

[Surgeon]

Never did I play that one, so I can't judge. Although I'm quite a fan of Mr. Tolkien's work I somewhat found the newer games based in Middle-earth disappointing.

Well, there aren't a lot really - just these two: The Lord of the Rings: War of the Rings, which is a lame rip off of the Warcraft series...and the legendary The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle Earth.

If you don't have an old computer and are a fan of mixed FRP-strategy, you should play it - I don't know a single person that disliked it. Even more if you're a Tolkien fan.

The only downfall of it is that it didn't pay to be based off the books, but the movies actually. Not a major setback at all, I actually think it's rather nice having Ian McKellen and/or Christopher Lee as the main character/narrator. This means that there are no wildmen n on Isengard's side and that the defender's are also joined by a detachment of Sylvan Elves.

Trust me - you wouldn't regret it.

[Leming22]

System Shock I and II, Sacrifice. Three games that are pure awesomeness. :)

[Tomekk]

Sacrifice, Giants: Citizen Kabuto, Diablo... :p

[zorrobomber]

Battlezone 1-2 (FPS/RTS)

Battlezone 1 played the more significant part in my gaming life. Before that, FPS were jut crazy shooters like Wolf, or Doom. This was a a complex ride, but it was also amongst the first few games, that succesfully made me believe that I am in a complex world. You had to order your droids around, build stuff, and not from above the skies, like a god, but you were actually a soldier on the battlefield, so every cannon blast, or laser beam felt real. It definitely wasn't the best game around, but it was a totally unique experience.

[virumor]

Dune (adventure/strategy)

Call of Cthulhu: dark corners of the Earth -- mix of FPS/Stealth/Survival horror game

Mirror's Edge -- mix of FPS/platform game

[Surgeon]

Dune (adventure/strategy)

Call of Cthulhu: dark corners of the Earth -- mix of FPS/Stealth/Survival horror game

Mirror's Edge -- mix of FPS/platform game

Dune is an adventure? Really???

[Panthro]

I think he means the Dune game based on the film/book, rather than the RTS game.

Dune - http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/dune

Dune II - http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/dune-ii-the-building-of-a-dynasty

[Japo]

EDIT: late

[nami88]

System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Mass Effect, and Fallout 3 are all fun FPS/RPGs.

[Simoneer]

I fail to see how Mass Effect is partly a First-Person Shooter, as it has a third-person view. So, TPS? Yes. FPS? No.

[nami88]

I fail to see how Mass Effect is partly a First-Person Shooter, as it has a third-person view. So, TPS? Yes. FPS? No.
Sorry, my mistake. It's just a habit to refer to all shooter games as FPS. :blush:

[nem75]

I also fail to see how Mass Effect is "mixed". Using third person, turn-based combat is completely normal for an RPG game. See the first Realms of Arkania games oh so long ago. True RPG games from the first combat move to the last slain orc, as is Mass Effect (sans the orcs).

Also Diablo is the quintessential hack'n'slay and not in the least bit a representative of a genre that's in any way mixed.

But I'm being a nit-picking smartass once again. Sorry 'bout that. :D Genres are hard to define ultimately, so what the heck.

Definitely the greatest game with ingredients from many genres, at least for me, would be Sundog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunDog:_Frozen_Legacy). To this day I wait for a contemporary game picking up on the idea of giving you real time space combat, turn based terrestrial combat, trading aspects, puzzles plus the ability to walk everywhere including within you own ship. (Ah, jumping up from the pilot's seat mid-combat to run to the engine compartments and replace busted components so you wouldn't end up as a sitting duck, then running back to the seat to continue the fight - all in real-time ... sweet memories.)

Sadly this was pre-PC, with the only versions ever made being for Apple II and Atari ST. It's a game by FTL (Faster Than Light, of Dungeon Master fame), just to give you a hint at the quality of which the developers were.

Anyway ...

Other than that I'd definitely mention the Quest for Glory series and Privateer. Though it's debatable if the latter one really belongs to a "mixed" genre or just belongs to a genre of itself, established by Elite and the likes.

[Simoneer]

I also fail to see how Mass Effect is "mixed". Using third person, turn-based combat is completely normal for an RPG game. See the first Realms of Arkania games oh so long ago. True RPG games from the first combat move to the last slain orc, as is Mass Effect (sans the orcs).

You know what? IMO, Mass Effect definitely does have the feel of a Third-Person Shooter at times. I can see where he's coming from, even if I wouldn't call it anything but an RPG myself.

Also Diablo is the quintessential hack'n'slay and not in the least bit a representative of a genre that's in any way mixed.

But I'm being a nit-picking smartass once again. Sorry 'bout that. :D Genres are hard to define ultimately, so what the heck.

:oh:

Well, Hack and Slash (which I assume you mean) is a type of gameplay, not a genre on its own. An RPG can have Hack and Slash gameplay. It can even have strategic gameplay, and only include firearms.

[Lulu_Jane]

To follow Nami, we need more people waving Deus Ex's flag, also, as other people have mentioned, I reckon Quest For Glory (1 to 5 or 6 I forget) gets points for trying.

[El Quia]

Lulu, you loose points:hihihi:: QFG is from I-V :tongue: And they succeed at being awesome!!!! :clap: (well, maybe the last one doesn't succeed so much :mhh:)

[Lulu_Jane]

I actually love the very last one, it felt like a love letter to the entire series, where they fixed a lot of issues (horrific combat controls etc.) that plagued the series. Also, unlike the pseudo-Russian one, it wasn't so crippled with bugs on release it was actually playable.

[Borodin]

King of Dragon Pass. Wonderful mix of strategy, simulation, and RPG. Also very replayable, with tons of different things to discover and try out.

[virumor]

Some people seem to consider Mass Effect as a "shooter with RPG elements", other consider it a "RPG with shooter elements". I'd say it's the latter, considering pointing the cursor at an enemy and shooting doesn't necessarily result in hitting the enemy.

[nem75]

Well, Hack and Slash (which I assume you mean) is a type of gameplay, not a genre on its own. An RPG can have Hack and Slash gameplay. It can even have strategic gameplay, and only include firearms.

No, I mean hack'n'slay. Which is exactly the same as hack'n'slash, but it is often called hack'n'slay over here. Whether that's because zee (we) Germans have a better grip on our own language than English (well, most of us) or because the contentual difference of the two terms is marginal, I wouldn't want to decide.

Anyway, to me it's a genre defined by Diablo and everything that came after it. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a authoritative definition saying that it is a type of gameplay, contrary to a genre. (And that's not even considering how much a genre is defined be just that: the gameplay.) But if that's what you want to call it - whatever floats your boat. :)

[El Quia]

I actually love the very last one, it felt like a love letter to the entire series, where they fixed a lot of issues (horrific combat controls etc.) that plagued the series. Also, unlike the pseudo-Russian one, it wasn't so crippled with bugs on release it was actually playable.

I don't like the combat system of QFGV, not at all. And a lot of quest got the feeling of "go to point a, kill everything that moves and come back, possibly with quest item b". There wasn't really a lot of space to alternative solutions to some quests, or the alternatives weren't much different. The feeling of the game wasn't the same.

I liked, yes, and I'm glad that the series could have an ending, although the ending it had wasn't very good. I would preferred a more satisfactory ending than "now you are king! Congratulations! Maybe you even married! Thanks for playing QFG during all these years" I would preferred and ending more like the other QFGs, where everyone touched by your adventures would talk in your behalf, everyone would cheer you and all that. But then take one step more, with some special cinematic, or revelation or something.

And I liked QFG IV!! But yes, if you were a thief, you would possible wouldn't be able to finish the game :p

[_r.u.s.s.]

And I liked QFG IV!! But yes, if you were a thief, you would possible wouldn't be able to finish the game :p how so? (i haven't played the game yet)

[El Quia]

It was a bug that was already patched. When it was released, there was an event leading to the last quarter of the game that, if you were a thief, would never happen. That happened with the floppy version, because the cd (and Anthology) one I can't remember if it were already patched or if it came with the patch.

[_r.u.s.s.]

phew, i already thought i can screw my savegamed thief character from the first one

[Lulu_Jane]

That is the game that actually killed Sierra for me. Worst bugged release ever. But it still has a place in my heart, among other things because Dr. Brain shows up :)

Edit: My favourite of the series is 3 just by the way.

[El Quia]

That is the game that actually killed Sierra for me. Worst bugged release ever. But it still has a place in my heart, among other things because Dr. Brain shows up :)

Edit: My favourite of the series is 3 just by the way.

Really? Although it was the first QFG I played, I always though it was the weakest for the bunch. My favorites are I and IV :(.

[Lulu_Jane]

Hehe, interesting, because my second favourite is number 2 :D

Ah well, the world needs all types!

[El Quia]

Hehe, interesting, because my second favourite is number 2 :D

Ah well, the world needs all types!

Well, QFGII is my second favorite too!