Role Playing

[Fubb]

Howders.

Anone out here Roleplay?

Well i know the answers to those questions, but what i mean is, how do you roleplay? In games? In forums? In chats? Whats yours styles :D Share away any games and whatnot you roleplay in

[_r.u.s.s.]

like cyber?

[Fubb]

Cyber..?

[_r.u.s.s.]

like *_r.u.s.s. takes out his whip, bends fubb over, places hand on his genitalia and whips his behind* like that?

[Fubb]

CHRIST! While that aroused me in ways i never thought possible, no, thats not what i meant

I meant like, as in you go on a game, lets take Threshold RPG as an example. You dont talk as in "Oh hey what level are you? Whatcha doing" and "OMFG THE SORD IS SO ******* OWSOME"

You say "Ho, adventurer. From where do you hail?" And so on, you play the role of your character. If your character is evil, be evil "You looking for trouble bumping in to me, drawf" (for added effect, say that to an elf. There supposed to be tall right?)

Or there are many forums that have roleplays in them, lets take the bethesda softworks studios forums. They have Fallout and The Elder Scrolls roleplaying and fan fiction available, where you would make a character, and play him.

Though i say r.u.s.s., i found your answer rather amusing. You shoulda just said cyber sex or whatever, woulda gotten the point across. So for further questions

NO IM NOT TALKING ABOUT CYBER SEX, CYBER, CREEPY PEDOPHILE PLAYING WITH 12 YEAR OLD JAIL BAITS, M KAI?

K THX

[MugsyNJ1]

Just say NO to role-playing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw).

:titan: :titan: :titan:

[Fubb]

no...christ you guys are dull
ROLEPLAYING ON THE NET, THOUGH NOT THE CYBER KIND!

I rue the day i made this topic

[dosraider]

I say "Ho, adventurer. From where do you hail?"
"You looking for trouble bumping in to me, drawf"
:omg:


Grmpffff, yeah that's a funny topic. :yawn:

Runs away from this topic ....
KTXBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Sorry Fubb, was to nice to let it go, won't interfere anymore...

[Fubb]

Hey its an example, I had nothing to buidl off of.

[sgtboat]

I still have a group of us that meets 2-3 times a month to play RPG's. Mostly Rifts, AD&D (1st and 2nd edition only.) Palladium, and Vampire:the masquerade.
I dont play cyber RPG. If im gonna play a computer game thats what I want to play. And Cyber RPG doesnt hold a candle to playing til 3 AM and then getting booted from the guild, then to wafflehouse and playing til dawn with good friends. You wont get that online.

[Japo]

I've also been a pen and paper roleplayer. It's not that we have abandoned it for good (many in the gang did however), but lack of interest grew up and even if one of us pulls something to direct, which is very rare by now, it won't last long, not even as intended usually.

We're four max, one lives 2,000 km away so it's a no 99 per cent of the time, and another may want to play but won't ever direct for the life of his. There's another, he's tired of everything we've played previously and when directing will frolic with a different game and setting every time. Incidentally he also kills all character at once eventually (with "eventually" I mean "real soon"). :rolleyes: The other is me of course, I don't have much interest in fantasy and D&D-likes any longer either to be honest (but proper Tolkien is good if done right), my cup of tea is historical roleplaying.

Also I have problems with every existing gaming system. Actually I have devised a brand new homebrew system, it's not completely finished let alone tested, but I'll finish it one day and you'll be the first to know. In a couple of years I'll find a minute to devote to it. :D

[sgtboat]

I've also been a pen and paper roleplayer. It's not that we have abandoned it for good (many in the gang did however), but lack of interest grew up and even if one of us pulls something to direct, which is very rare by now, it won't last long, not even as intended usually.

We're four max, one lives 2,000 km away so it's a no 99 per cent of the time, and another may want to play but won't ever direct for the life of his. There's another, he's tired of everything we've played previously and when directing will frolic with a different game and setting every time. Incidentally he also kills all character at once eventually (with "eventually" I mean "real soon"). :rolleyes: The other is me of course, I don't have much interest in fantasy and D&D-likes any longer either to be honest (but proper Tolkien is good if done right), my cup of tea is historical roleplaying.

Also I have problems with every existing gaming system. Actually I have devised a brand new homebrew system, it's not completely finished let alone tested, but I'll finish it one day and you'll be the first to know. In a couple of years I'll find a minute to devote to it. :D

Ill beta test it. Wont be the first. I used to beta test games for Steve Jackson.

[Japo]

Ill beta test it. Wont be the first. I used to beta test games for Steve Jackson.
Many thanks, will get to you when I have an early version. Now it's already devised and even mostly implemented, but there are a couple of implementation decissions pending, and the text of the rules is incomplete.

BTW it's intended for "realistic" roleplaying (so not everyone's cup of tea...) Like if you get into nonsensical fights thinking you're Drizzt, you'll get yourself killed. :P So educational. :D Otherwise it's intended to be universal, that is applicable to ancient, contemporary, sci-fi, etc. settings alike, even fantasy why not (however not "high" fantasy of course since it's "realistic", but still a magic system could be bundled into it, I'm just not designing any for now).

As I said I'll get back to you some day during the next decade... You just wait seated. :D Thanks again for you offer.

[sgtboat]

Sounds good dude. Kinda reminds me of GURPS from Steve Jackson. You could set up adventures from the past to the future. I can help with the magic system. I would just need to know wheteher you would like spell points, max spells per day, or a generic "universal energy/Force" kind of thing. nThat would dictate the spell/power types.

[Japo]

There could be a different magic system for each setting... I could develop something after the system itself, but at any rate determining one single magic system for the game would go against its spirit.

I can't work on specific settings until the core framework at least is finished and polished... But I do have some short notes I made about medieval Japan for the campaign that I may use first to test myself. Nothing magical--I won't butt in magic in the first tests, in order to isolate factors--but for example martial arts ("realistic") and weapons...

[Fubb]

Yuo guys are lucky. I cannot WAIT until i go to college and can find DnD players (apparently they are popular there). I've made it a life goal to play DnD. WARLOOOCK!

[Thermyte]

I dont play cyber RPG. If im gonna play a computer game thats what I want to play. And Cyber RPG doesnt hold a candle to playing til 3 AM and then getting booted from the guild, then to wafflehouse and playing til dawn with good friends. You wont get that online.

I try and explain that to my friends that live in WOW and other MMORG's. They just don't get why I just do not see the point in cyber RPG.

[Fubb]

WOW and MMORPG's are not roleplaying games, there games where everyone tries to geth e strongest guy, with the strongest equipment, and says things like "Omg yur a noob ur only lvl 40"

Roleplaying is when you, a Warlock, come across and unsuspecting elf and hold a conversation with him before maniulating him, and then killign him. Roleplaying is when you survive a barbarian raid, and the rest of yoyr family is long dead, and you share your story in the local inn. Roleplaying is when you survive a nuclear war in the confines of a homeade fallout shelter, and wake up the next day to find a wasteland outside.

THAT is roleplaying. WOW is NOT in the LEAST roleplaying, at ALL

[Pox]

Is there a conjunction of words for this?
Perhaps Quasi-lame?
Its rare to see such a wide variety of conversations and people talking all at once saying nothing, at least you managed to amuse me.
As to D & D, I used to play with two good freinds as a teenager, we'd all go get stoned and toss dice for hack and slash untill the wee hours.
Take turns running each other's various dungeons, maps, sl's, best friendly competition I've ever participated in.
To each his own.

[Pex]

I used to be a pen and paper role player. I started with MERP (Middle Earth Role Playing) system, then went to Role Master and finally AD&D. I liked RM the most. But that was ages ago. My old crew is all around the world now.

I also played a few on-line campaigns on a few different forums. Some were AD&D, some D&D 3.5 ed, some were just free style. Basicly, GM (or DM) presents a story and particular situation and then you post your reaction. Some GMs just decide what would happen, while some actually role dice (or say that they do ;) ). It's fun, but not as much as pen and paper, especially since it tends to drag for ages. We never finished a single campaign. But there are forums that are actually dedicated to that kind of role playing and people there are more dedicated themselves, so campaigns run faster.

[Fubb]

I did similar...On the Bethesda Softworks forums, they had The Elder Scrolls fan fiction, aswell as RPing, and some of the RP's were either awful, or only fun for awhile and died out. But some, are still going, and they've been goign forever! And the DM's act as players aswell for some, whereas in others they just DM. Pretty neat stuff.

See i'd get pwn3d in a D&D rolepaly though, because I know nothing of DnD

[Saccade]

Did they ever make a SLA Industries computer game?

[El Quia]

Ah, pen and paper role playing games... I love them! I'm a role player since '93 and I couldn't (not that I wanted to) quit since then. Although I could not play regularly all those years, in the last three I am playing a lot more often and, at last, I am not the only GM (I was almost the only GM amongst my friends between 1996 and 2005/6).

Right now I'm GMing a AD&D 2nd Edition campaign and an Unknown Armies campaign. A friend is GMing Star Wars d20, and another one GMs some experimentals one-shots. And we have an unfinished D&D 3.5 that will have to wait since may.

I have never played by post nor by email nor by chat. I shudder at the idea, although I think that by not trying to duplicate exactly the tabletop experience, it could be a very interesting experience. If anyone is trying to star a Play by post RPG (or play by email), please send me a pm to evaluate if I could hop into!

[Saccade]

The only play by post games I ever used was VGA Planets and Chess.

I think that something beautiful would be lost if roleplaying games such as AD&D were played in that manner.

I've watched people play WhiteWolf RPG's in chatboxes and it just degenerates into disorder and nob jokes...
And if your character has a stutter or something, it'd be r-r-r-really annoying to have to type it all out all the time.

[El Quia]

I remember a mage game played in a chat channel that I read at the GM's site. Obviously, it was edited to filter all the crap about dice rolling and such, but it was a really good reading. But I suppose that's depends on the group.

And sure, the typical AD&D campaign played by post would be very different to the tabletop experience. But I think that, realizing the differences and limitation of the play by post style, you could have a very satisfying experience, albeit a more literary one (in the sense that it gives you more time to expose your action and portray your character with more care). But I accept that I didn't played in this way, so it is all a conjecture :D

[Saccade]

We could give it a go, perhaps?

How long's the post between England and Argentina?
Wait... that's what email's for isn't it?

Anyone interested in this except us two?

[Tomekk]

Your talking about "text-RPGs" that you play in forums via posting, right?:p

Then look around the Competition/Games section and you'll see that a lot of people are already interested in this :)

[El Quia]

Your talking about "text-RPGs" that you play in forums via posting, right?:p

Then look around the Competition/Games section and you'll see that a lot of people are already interested in this :)

What I saw there was more like free form collaborative writing: It has almost no rules, everyone is modifying the world and there is no discernible Game Master. We are talking something more similar to tabletop, but with the modifications necessary for it to work on a forum.

[Saccade]

Do you think that, if it was structured and had more of a Real Life RPG feel to it, that it'd work in the same way, El?

[El Quia]

Do you think that, if it was structured and had more of a Real Life RPG feel to it, that it'd work in the same way, El?

What do you mean by "Real Life RPG"? I can't think of anything by that name off the top of my head. It's a gaming style?

By the way, calling me "El" sounds weird, as if I am some kind of Kryptonian or something :P. "El", in spanish, is like "The" in english. Calling me "Quia" is just fine, if you want a shorter name ("quia" means something like "guy" in "lunfardo", a kind of argentinian slang). :D

[Saccade]

By "Real Life", I meant "in real life, not on the computer or internets".

Quia sounds like Queer if I pronounce it in my head that way.
I prefer kie-ya...

Queer is something that lunfardo's who like guys get branded here, around Hampstead Heath...

What was the name of the detective in the Anime and films: Death Note that was trying to get Light Yagami and bust him for killing everyone..?

I thought it was "L" or El - I was using it with the detective guy in mind. Not The!

I can see why it seems silly now. doh!

(ps - Yagami spelled backwards is "im a gay". That's queer too.)

[El Quia]

By "Real Life", I meant "in real life, not on the computer or internets".

Quia sounds like Queer if I pronounce it in my head that way.
I prefer kie-ya...

Queer is something that lunfardo's who like guys get branded here, around Hampstead Heath...

What was the name of the detective in the Anime and films: Death Note that was trying to get Light Yagami and bust him for killing everyone..?

I thought it was "L" or El - I was using it with the detective guy in mind. Not The!

I can see why it seems silly now. doh!

(ps - Yagami spelled backwards is "im a gay". That's queer too.)

You mean like a LARP? I have never LARPed, so I can't say. But I think that a system without too many dice-rolling (or none at all), but with something like a point/attribute/whatever system where you bet or spend or something your attributes (or whatever) would be nice. Specially if it is never necessary to break character to announce your actions and the resolutions. And the game master is only needed for narrative, not to arbitrate conflict. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

I don't know if I understood you correctly. but "Lunfardo"is the name of the slang. And "Quia" is pronnouced ['kia]. And I think that the detective from Death Note is called "L", although I am not 100% sure (a couple of years ago I read a couple of chapter but it didn't hold my interest).

[Saccade]

Some of the Troupes I used to play RPG's like Vampire: The Masquerade and SLA Industries and Cyberpunk and all that - we used to not use die at all.

It was all, like you say, based upon the attribute system and how convincingly you played your character.

Assuming the Role (not the position) was more important than rolling some dice.
If things really did have to be settled with a dice roll, most of the time it was obvious what would happen unless someone was really lucky.

I guess if you needed it online, there are plenty of virtual dice sites like this one:
http://www.portsmouth-learning.net/pln/custom/resources_ftp/netmedia_ll/ks1/maths/dice/nindex.htm

or, if you already have Flash Player:
http://www.portsmouth-learning.net/pln/custom/resources_ftp/netmedia_ll/ks1/maths/dice/index.htm

which have some usefulness in instances like this.

It'd stop people from saying they got whatever roll and cheating(!) if there was a virtual dice embedded as a SWF object where everyone could see it.

[El Quia]

Your neighbors have cracked your ceiling? WTF!?

Yeah the virtual dice could be used, but I was thinking more on a system where dice are not needed, except maybe for truly random events. But in this case, the GM surely will not cheat himself, jo.

I have never read the LARP manuals from White Wolf, so I don't know how the system works. But I was thinking in something more on the lines of having point-based attributes and skills and you bet them to act. The target of the action has a quantity of points, too, to simulate difficulty (if the target is another character, he bets his own points, according with the action: dodge if he is attacked, etc). The loser of the contest loose the point s/he bet, the winner keeps them. And permutations of this.

The problem is how could be decided who wins the contest. The virtual dice is a beggining, but we need a way to throw the dice and know the result for all to see. Do you know a system that works like this?

The idea here is for the GM to narrate, to decide for the NPCs and such, never to resolve conflict (unless and NPC is involved).

[Saccade]

That's pretty much how the WW system works across the board, from Vamp to Mage...

It's the reason they're so compatible. It's nice to have a party made up from a vampire-loathing werewolf, an idiot mage savant, a Japanese pop-star vampire (who the vampire-loathing werewolf thinks is too cute to kill) and her entourage of vampire hunters who think the same as the werewolf.

The dice system is why I suggested having an embedded die somewhere.
I don't know if it'd work with flash too well.

But a chatbox with a random integer number generator built in would be perfect.
Live rolls when you have to have them.

I have no idea how you'd make one of those in a chatbox, though...

[El Quia]

Well, do you have the WW LARP rules? You think it could be easily adapted to forum play (or chat play)? If that's the case, maybe we can adapt it to whatever game we play (I'm not a WW lover, except for Mage the Ascension).

For forum play, this place (http://invisiblecastle.com/) looks promising. I tested a little bit and seems useful and flexible. For chat gaming, I'm still looking for an alternative, although a friend told me about a chatbox made in php to which the owners of the forum added a dice roller. But the chatbox was closed due to abuse.

[Saccade]

That place looks so old-school...

I keep getting errors whenever I try to use the dice thing they have.
I must not be doing it right, though I'm following the instructions verbatim now...

I'll see if I can dig out one of the old sourcebooks for Mage or one of the others. I think I have some around somewhere that didn't get lost or stolen.

I will re-read the basic rules so we can look over them and see how they can fit.
I need to get a decent scanner one day.

[El Quia]

Really? I tried the dice rolling just now and I found no error, except when I tried rolling 6d6+1 and take the 3 highest. If I type 6d6+1.takeHighest(3) it throws an error. And if I type 6d6.takeHighest(3)+1, it takes the 4 highest. But everythong else worked fine for me (well, except that clicking the URLs didn't copy them to the clipboard :( ).

Maybe your browser or some plug in mess things up?

Well, if you find it, let's discuss it!

[Pex]

This is a forum dedicated to D&D on-line role playing.

Faerun Roleplaying (http://faerunrp.com/forums/index.php?sid=c943af5197a914fc0d13e40293420a7e)

I used to be a member there, but I never participated in an adventure, mostly because back then I didn't have enough time to spare. On-line RPGs are slow by default, so unless you can commit yourself to participate on daily basis, you shouldn't go for it and slow it down even more for those that can do it regularly. I wasn't prepared for such a commitment.

But I roleplayed with some of the guys that are there on some other forums. Although D&D is dice based system, we never used roles. DMs could've if they wanted, but it was more important to have fun and a good story than to stick to the rules.

[Sobek]

I admit I role play often. But not real life roleplay, no... I'm not there yet...

I interact with RP's related to video games and such. In this case, TES and Gears of war :p

[El Quia]

Sorry for the necropost, but I would like to know if the interest is still there for a play by post (or some other mechanic) RPG? With Saccade we were talking about adapting the Mind's eye rules to the game or something like that. Any news on that front, Saccade? Is anyone else interested in this?

[AlumiuN]

Or Diplomacy. I'd play Diplomacy by mail. :)

[Saccade]

I haven't heard from anyone here about this, El Quia - not so far anyway.

I got involved in a game which is being played on Usenet:
rec.games.roleplay.gaijin

There're several games running, in different rooms, like SLA industries, AD&D (not sure which edition), White Wolf games, Warhammer, Call of Cthulu, Mechwarrior, etc...

It's really slow gameplay.
You're supposed to check in every day at the same time. I'm in one of the English games and it's played on the weekends and on Tues, Wed & Thurs from 6-10pm.

From the 3 weeks I've been playing it, 2 times people haven't shown up and it's meant that they get left behind or the GM uses their character if they've made a storyline that needs them.

eg, we needed to break into a vault, to steal some industrial secret computer-tech, but the person who was going to blow it open didn't show.
I tried to use an amplifier to boost the sonic powers my character has - vibrate the metal door so much so that it'd become more liquid and then just "swim" through it.
Because it worked when I was removing poison tipped bullets from someone without surgery and for sneaking into a bank's safe.

I got my hand stuck in the vault door, as I'm not powerful enough to sustain the effort needed, and someone had to cut me out with a blowtorch.
Now I have a penalty for using two firearms at once or anything that needs high dexterity, because my left hand doesn't move properly - it's 50% metal now. But the side of it is like a razor, so I have like a big knife for a hand! Not all bad.

That whole situation, from getting to the vault to (finally) blowing a hole in so we could get in, took 2 weeks of playing for 4 hours a week...

I don't think it's the best method, but it's better than any of the others I've been trying - chatboxes just end up with the game descending into chaos.

Its an invitational group, but anyone can read it.
To stop everyone from talking at once its run by a few people who take the role of GM.
It is basically a moderated discussion group, which means that your posts must be approved by the newsgroup's owners and managers.
This way, even if you submitted 10 turns, they wouldn't be posted until it was your turn (or you interjected or were needed or something). It kind of takes it back down to the level of "play by post" that was popular about 15-20 years ago, just as the internet was starting to become known about by other people who weren't computer geeks with 3.25bit modems.

The rules are that you can send more than one post, but only one gets posted and that's the latest one you sent. It's best to wait until it's your turn, though, as you could miss out on something or try to do or say something that isn't relevant to the new situation.
They do use dice in it, very rarely, if there's a conflict that can't be sorted out by role-playing - they try to avoid using dice because of the obvious problems with it, as we've been discussing.
It's rolled by the GM using a virtual die programme and they make any adjustments, based on your character sheet.

The character sheet is a text document form that you fill in - the GM then puts the info into a PDF and you have a link to it that you put up on your profile page.

If you have access to an NNTP server or another way of using Usenet, then it's worth having a look at the alt.games or rec.games bits for roleplaying.

Careful though - *.roleplay instead of *.games.roleplay/RPG isn't role-playing games!
It's fantasy sexual roleplay!

I don't know if you can access the forums through googlegroups. I know that you can't get the binaries like http://binaries.nl and that site is only a directory listing for usenet...

Even though people are using torrents now, instead of Usenet and binaries like they used to - my home ISP blocks me from viewing them.
So I just use IP spoofing software (hideIPNG - it makes it so much easier than doing it manually. Instantaneous. It also makes sending anonymous emails easier too. You can even send emails that genuinely look like they're from another address - without having to use CMD and muck around with telnet and MX stuff. You have to really know the difference in order to spot it. Very good software.) and a german NNTP that costs £6 a year.

I'll find a group that has a game about to start - it'll probably be at the weekend, as they seem to usually start and end on saturdays or sundays - and PM or post the details so that you can have a look and see what you think, too.

It's the best system that I've found so far, but I don't know how it would translate to being used here...

[weylin]

I tried a multiplayer online game where you roleplay a lion XD
watched like 50 video documentarys and read 3 books on behaviors to get it right :P

It's kind of silly when you think about it :embarassed:

[El Quia]

I haven't heard from anyone here about this, El Quia - not so far anyway.

I got involved in a game which is being played on Usenet:
rec.games.roleplay.gaijin

There're several games running,

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...

I will see if I can check Usenet from home, because if I start reading an rpg campaign, I am sure I will be reading it all day long, and I have returned to work just today, so... you know...

Is there anyone else interested in doing this?

[aarne]

*Slaps Weylin with tuna* say whaa?

[weylin]

what, a game where you take on a role of a lion doesn't seem silly to you?
I'm not talking about that old DOS game, I mean a recent one currently in development

[Saccade]

Waylin - have you played Sactuary Wood's "Wolf"?

It's a wolf-pack simulator that's quite fun.
I think I've uploaded it here at some point. Or have forgotten to or uploaded it when it was already on here when I didn't notice.

Ah - here it is. It wasn't me. I must've gone to put it up and found it was already here. Abandonia's games collection is pretty, pretty big, man.
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/531/Wolf.html
There's a new online version too: http://www.echostar.pl/~dolny/smieci/gry/interwolf3.jpg (http://www.echostar.pl/%7Edolny/smieci/gry/interwolf3.jpg)

Oops - I've also uploaded Ghengis Khan 2: Clan of the Wolf recently. That didn't show up when I was searching for it last time...
I'll have to remove that from my list.

If you like animal RPG's then there are loads out there which are pretty good fun.

I've got a 1990 version of Snoopy that I think is different to the 1989 Snoopy and Peanuts game here and Snoopy's Game Club.

One of my favourites is Sim Ant:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/250/SimAnt+-+The+Electronic+Ant+Colony.html

You'll have to PM me about that one... ;)

[Ranthalion75]

I roleplay whenever possible. I love computer RPGs, and I have a few tabletop RPGs also. I play HeroQuest and Advanced Heroquest with my kids and I try to add roleplaying elements to them because we also play Warhammer RPG when I have the time.

[Thunderclap]

Ah Hero Quest, I loved that game when I was young. Nobody plays that stuff where I am anymore. Good on you for getting your kids into the old school stuff, good to know where all their modern games come from.

[Saccade]

My Godson gets a new game like that every year off me.

I gave him my Warhammer 40k Eldar army. Then my Harlequin Eldar.
Then Adeptus Titanicus (rare Warhammer Epic boxed-set game).
Then Blood-bowl.
Then Space-Hulk and Hero-Quest. (With wizards expansion and the other add-on pack with the Halberd guys)

Him and all his mates (he works for Games Workshop) love them!

They haven't entirely died out mate! They just need to be, as you said, handed down a generation so that *they* can see how god-damn amazing these games are.

Nothing beats Go! for a strategy tabletop game, though. Even if it doesn't have an RPG element to it - unless you pretend you are the commander of the army of white or black stones...

Or should that be different colour stones..? Don't want to be un-PC. That'd be fecking outrageous!

You guys ever heard of some card games (a bit like Magic: The Gathering) called:
- Grass
- Nuclear War
- Nuclear Proliferation
- Global Thermo Nuclear War

They're all by the same people, I think. They're all RPG card games (like Magic) in that you play a drug dealer in Grass or a Commander in Chief of a Nuclear Armed Nation in the others.

Surprisingly.

I wish they'd made Civilisation multiplayer, turnbased. Like Chaos Overlords, VGA Planets, Scorched Earth et al...

[El Quia]

I wish they'd made Civilisation multiplayer, turnbased. Like Chaos Overlords, VGA Planets, Scorched Earth et al...

Isn't CivNet what you are looking for? If I remember correctly, it's civilization MP :D I only played it once against a friend with a null cable :D

But maybe we are getting off-topic? :ot:

Let's continue talking about table-top RPGs! :clap:

The other day we At last finished an adventure we started in January or February. I long time friend of mine was DMing. It was great. And I realized that this month it's my 16th anniversary with RPGs :D

[Ranthalion75]

Never heard of those card games. I have Magic, and love it. Just have a starter kit though.

As for passing things down.. I do it constantly. I'm a nostalgist. I've got tons of stuff from whe I was a kid, and enjoy the old things with my kids. My old C64 games, my old DOS games, Nintendo... blah blah blah. It's great.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Well, if you're talking about RPG-ish card games, don't forget Netrunner. :)

[Saccade]

I just noticed your sig about my gonads, Fubb...

Didn't think anyone was online... :embarassed:
Maybe they were being :ninja:Ninja:ninja: like me?

[Fubb]

;) Thats for me too know, and you to never find out!

EDIT: Theres a program out there specifically designed for Table-Top gaming...on computers...called Vassal. only problem is, wel lthers not a ton of thingy's, well good things that is. There are games liek Dawn Patrol and Memoir 44, aswell as (woo hah) Warhammer 40k, but i dont have a warhammer 40k rule book, so i wouldn't know how to play, at ALL

http://www.vassalengine.org/community/index.php

[cpt renault]

So I'm seeing a lot of ADnD, Warhammer, Netrunner, things like that, but no 3.0 or later D&D. Is it that unpopular with this crowd, or is it just a really quiet group? I've always thought 3.5 was one of the better roleplaying games out there.

[El Quia]

So I'm seeing a lot of ADnD, Warhammer, Netrunner, things like that, but no 3.0 or later D&D. Is it that unpopular with this crowd, or is it just a really quiet group? I've always thought 3.5 was one of the better roleplaying games out there.

Them are fighting words, lady! :rant:

I played some 3.5, but I really prefer AD&D. Maybe because it was the game that I grew up with (:p), but the mood and style of AD&D is a lot different than the one from 3.5. But I think that those rules (the d20 system) was wonderfully adapted to Star Wars. I played the d6 system, but it always seemed like it was leaving out a lot of the universe. And it was, the d6 Star Wars was only good to play in the rebelion era and inmediately after the battle of Endor.

[cpt renault]

Well, maybe you've got something there. I've never actually played AD&D, just seen some of the books. I certainly wasn't the slick, corporate role-playing game that Wizards made it into, I'll give it that. Hm. Maybe I should dig some of those books up and see if I'm wrong about this, heh.
And I have the d20 Star Wars, and though I never played the d6 version, I can imagine it wouldn't have been as fun. The group I play with sometimes does a Star Wars campaign instead of DnD, and I think it's a really well done game.

[hunvagy]

We had a crowd of Roleplayers back in the dorm, they began with AD&D, but when I joined, 3 (3.5 later on) was the new thing, so they tried it. I only played AD&D CRPGs, but still it was a little weird to get used to counting your AC upwards and not downwards. We played regurarly for two or three years, and we got used to the d20 system. As for SW, the d20 is a beautiful conversion indeed. I found it more interesting then the d6 version. And then just for curiosity, I read up D&D 4th Edition.. WTF WoW Pnp?? Seriously, that systems is just.. weird.

[cpt renault]

Agreed on the 4E. I'm sure more eloquent writers than I have said anything I can on that issue. I guess Wizards is trying to cash in on the WoW crowd...it's really quite annoying. If I want to play WoW, I'd play WoW. Pen and paper games aren't supposed to be slow-moving knock-offs like that. Oh well.

[hunvagy]

Just the same WotC will make sh*tloads of money with it -_-. Well doesn't really concern me anymore, I'm without any RPers for two years now.. "Hello, my name is hunvagy, i was a DnDholic..." I miss it, but absolutely no time for it lately.

[cpt renault]

I guess so. Wizards,for their flaws as a company, are really quite good at getting their games sold, so I'm sure 4E will do just fine, once the stubborn punks like me shut up XD.
Shame about you losing a group. I guess thats the way things go, as time passes. Still a bit sad.
But then again, if you don't have time for, it wouldn't matter either way, I guess.
So it goes. Maybe sometime soon you'll have the time and opportunity again. For their flaws, those games are really quite fun to play.

[El Quia]

Hey, hunvagy, I also had the same problem until I magically could make some time for games. Maybe we don't meet almost every weekend like we do when we where teenagers, but we try to meet when we can, and we have fun. Really, the experience gets better with each passing year, I tell you.

@cpt renault: D&D has always sold more or less by itself. Although it's true that WotC revived the franchise when they started selling D&D 3

[hunvagy]

Hey, hunvagy, I also had the same problem until I magically could make some time for games. Maybe we don't meet almost every weekend like we do when we where teenagers, but we try to meet when we can, and we have fun. Really, the experience gets better with each passing year, I tell you.

@cpt renault: D&D has always sold more or less by itself. Although it's true that WotC revived the franchise when they started selling D&D 3

The real problem is the at least D&D 3.5 was good to some extent (I know, i'm a heretic :max:), but D&D 4 is just meeeh. It really is god awful. And still, WotC will sell it like some sugar-coated donut, although it is sugar-coated guano. I know the amount of books they published to 3.5 is horrific, but at least it was roleplay. This new ruleset is WoW on paper. Maybe it's just the nostalgic speaking, but there was a reason having a fine line between PnP and CRPGs :) WoW imo is not applicable to a night with RP people.

[El Quia]

I friend who played 4th a couple of times said it felt more as a board game related to fighting that as a RPG. Another one says that 4th has its merits (but he always was something of an heretic :P). The truth is, people always say shit about each new D&D version, but it always ends selling a LOT. And at least half of the early detractors are then playing it like there is no tomorrow. Although its true that sometimes is because the rest of the group is playing it and you have to choose between playing it or trying to find another group. And, in the end, the game is an excuse to pass the time with the friends.

But yes, we could pass the time with the friends without resorting to a crappy rules system :D.

I will stay with AD&D 2nd when mastering, so deal with it :D. And we always have all the other RPG out there: D&D is not the only one! :)

[hunvagy]

I friend who played 4th a couple of times said it felt more as a board game related to fighting that as a RPG. Another one says that 4th has its merits (but he always was something of an heretic :P). The truth is, people always say shit about each new D&D version, but it always ends selling a LOT. And at least half of the early detractors are then playing it like there is no tomorrow. Although its true that sometimes is because the rest of the group is playing it and you have to choose between playing it or trying to find another group. And, in the end, the game is an excuse to pass the time with the friends.

But yes, we could pass the time with the friends without resorting to a crappy rules system :D.

I will stay with AD&D 2nd when mastering, so deal with it :D. And we always have all the other RPG out there: D&D is not the only one! :)

Well hopefully I will find some people who are not all work and no fun, and especially no RPing :) If not, then the new PnP will be Beer and chips :) And I myself would be perfectly content with playing M.A.G.U.S (a hungarian PnP system), but we were open in that way, and we had more D&D 3 books than AD&D. And if everything else failed, we resorted to WotD and played Vampire :]

[knobfer]

UO has still got a rather good set of guilds that RP with each other. The Europa shard houses a load of them.

http://www.f4g.net/ultima-online-forums/ -this site contains lots of guilds.

http://www.grd-europa.co.uk/forum/ -this site is the forum for the largest guild on europa.

[El Quia]

Well hopefully I will find some people who are not all work and no fun, and especially no RPing :) If not, then the new PnP will be Beer and chips :) And I myself would be perfectly content with playing M.A.G.U.S (a hungarian PnP system), but we were open in that way, and we had more D&D 3 books than AD&D. And if everything else failed, we resorted to WotD and played Vampire :]

I don't understand: Why are you playing and RPG if you don't want to role play? Unless you refer to something else with RPing? And vampire sucks! :tongue:

UO has still got a rather good set of guilds that RP with each other. The Europa shard houses a load of them.

http://www.f4g.net/ultima-online-forums/ -this site contains lots of guilds.

http://www.grd-europa.co.uk/forum/ -this site is the forum for the largest guild on europa.

We were talking about pen and paper RPGs (aka table-top RPG). It's the original way to play RPGs, and is a different experience than that of an CRPG or a MMORPG. But thanks anyways! I'm sure someone could use those links

[hunvagy]

I don't understand: Why are you playing and RPG if you don't want to role play? Unless you refer to something else with RPing? And vampire sucks! :tongue:

What I meant is that my current colleagues at work aren't very play, and especially role play oriented. Which makes finding new people to play very hard :D But as you said, the core of these sessions was to spend time with the friends, so if they don't play, than I have to adjust. Which in fact doesn't change that I like to play PnP games. (Maybe I should learn to think first, type later :mhh:)

And vampire doesn't suck, your just need a real good storyteller to feel the horror:jason:. And of course a party who's not out to re-create Twilight in a game session ;)

[knobfer]

Ah! I would love to give the pen and paper rpg's a go, but alas I know no one who plays them :(

[El Quia]

And vampire doesn't suck, your just need a real good storyteller to feel the horror:jason:. And of course a party who's not out to re-create Twilight in a game session ;)[/quote]

or the Anne Rice's vampire chronicles. Or superheroes with fangs. Or munchkins trying to get 10 in all their disciplines, or a*holes that thing that making the game no fun and argumentative for everyone else is good roleplay....


It's a laaaaaarge etcetera, :p.

But yes, every game could be good with the right people, but if I have to choose a WoD game, I would choose Mage: The Ascension from the old world of darkness, and a mix between second and revised edition at that.

[hunvagy]

But yes, every game could be good with the right people, but if I have to choose a WoD game, I would choose Mage: The Ascension from the old world of darkness, and a mix between second and revised edition at that.

Oh Mage.. I almost forgot about that one :D I still have the character sheet for my character from the Order of Hermes :3: He and his trusty Virtual Adept DEV//Null had many a great adventures back in the days :whistling:

[cpt renault]

Mage? I'd never heard of that one. I never realized quite how many of these games there are, heh. I suppose perhaps I should try expanding my horizons beyond good ol' 3.5.
As for vampires, oh god. I had hoped Twilight wouldn't be near as popular as it was. As if Ann Rice didn't...well, Ann Rice-atize them enough, along comes Twilight to make them even less appealing for Roleplaying. It's a shame, because the vampire concept has potential that is sort of doomed, now.

[hunvagy]

Mage? I'd never heard of that one. I never realized quite how many of these games there are, heh. I suppose perhaps I should try expanding my horizons beyond good ol' 3.5.
As for vampires, oh god. I had hoped Twilight wouldn't be near as popular as it was. As if Ann Rice didn't...well, Ann Rice-atize them enough, along comes Twilight to make them even less appealing for Roleplaying. It's a shame, because the vampire concept has potential that is sort of doomed, now.

Mage the Ascension is a World of Darkness game, in the vein of Vampire the Masquarade, Werewolf the Apocalypse, Wraith and the likes. The WotD is a story heavy system (at least in my opinion), which can be very disappointing, if some blood-blood-exp kiddies are in the play group. Yes, the vampires and the mages and the likes ARE powerful, but the whole concept is about that every one of them is doomed in one way or another because of his power. If that isn't emphasized in play, it will ruin the session. Interesting system by the way, you should give it a try, but only with some experienced WotD players :) Hmm, don't quite remember the phrase, but I think it goes like this: A vampire kills five werewolves, a mage kills five vampires and an attorney kills five mages :3:

[cpt renault]

Well, nice. I'll definitely look into that--I'm quite the fan of story-heavy games, so that part suits me just fine.
I guess I just need to find some experienced WotD players. :( Might be a bit of a challenge, just some standard Dungeons and Dragons is hard enough to find.

[El Quia]

A vampire kills five werewolf? You are playing it wrong, buddy :p. A vampire has no chance against a werewolf, let alone five, unless he is really ancient (and the werewolfs mere puppies :P)

I think that it is a lot easier to find crappy WoD players rather than good ones. Also, the new world of darkness is crap. WoD games can be a little bit pretentious (and mage is the most pretentious of the lot), but with the right people can be a lot of fun.

Mage is my favorite WoD game because of the themes you can work on it and the magic system. But I usually get aways a good bit from the default setting, prefering a more urban fantasy theme, mixed with some cyberpunk and conspiracy. God, I miss my old Mage campaign... lovely characters....

[hunvagy]

A vampire kills five werewolf? You are playing it wrong, buddy :p. A vampire has no chance against a werewolf, let alone five, unless he is really ancient (and the werewolfs mere puppies :P)

I think that it is a lot easier to find crappy WoD players rather than good ones. Also, the new world of darkness is crap. WoD games can be a little bit pretentious (and mage is the most pretentious of the lot), but with the right people can be a lot of fun.

Mage is my favorite WoD game because of the themes you can work on it and the magic system. But I usually get aways a good bit from the default setting, prefering a more urban fantasy theme, mixed with some cyberpunk and conspiracy. God, I miss my old Mage campaign... lovely characters....

Maybe it's the other way around, a werewolf kills five vampires, and a mage kills five werewolves... but the attorney part I remember clearly :D And yes, it is really easy to find crappy WoD players, especially in MET. Well I do like roleplay, but the Mind's Eye Theatre (aka. LIVE vampire) was a little too much for my tase. Some guy running around in a black raincoat shouting celerity, celerity... :wall:
Our Mage campaign was urban as well, set somewhere at the end of the XXI. century. And we were playing very strict by the rules of paradoxes and such, which made the game for me quite a challenge (being one of the most paradox ridden traditions, that is). But my character was no traditional Order of Hermes guy. Was a business man, with a small occult library and a devilish smile (and of course with the power to reshape the elements) :thumbs: I remember one of the most hillarious moments was when I had to check out some warehouses in the slums, where people began turning up dead, and drained of their blood, and while on the road, suddenly my radio changes stations to some guys voice and says: "Hello, I'm Dev//NULL, I'll be your Virtual guide today" :)

[El Quia]

Maybe it's the other way around, a werewolf kills five vampires, and a mage kills five werewolves... but the attorney part I remember clearly :D And yes, it is really easy to find crappy WoD players, especially in MET. Well I do like roleplay, but the Mind's Eye Theatre (aka. LIVE vampire) was a little too much for my tase. Some guy running around in a black raincoat shouting celerity, celerity... :wall:
Our Mage campaign was urban as well, set somewhere at the end of the XXI. century. And we were playing very strict by the rules of paradoxes and such, which made the game for me quite a challenge (being one of the most paradox ridden traditions, that is). But my character was no traditional Order of Hermes guy. Was a business man, with a small occult library and a devilish smile (and of course with the power to reshape the elements) :thumbs: I remember one of the most hillarious moments was when I had to check out some warehouses in the slums, where people began turning up dead, and drained of their blood, and while on the road, suddenly my radio changes stations to some guys voice and says: "Hello, I'm Dev//NULL, I'll be your Virtual guide today" :)

I have seen LARPing people... and yes, the vampire ones are usually the worse of the lot. I mean, why the fixation with raincoats? Sure I love them but... why has every vampire has to dress like that? I remember Justin Achilli ranting in the FAQ about that, saying something like "If I were a vampire hunter, I will lock all the raincoat wearing people in the same place and put a torch to it" :p

Although I have played once (and sure I wanted to play more), the rest of the time I have DMing Mage. We were playing a campaign set in 1997 (this was around 2000-2001) and it was great. We had a great cast of characters, but the best of all of them was the Cultist of Ecstasy. The guy was illegally occupying a house with his bedridden grandmother (who he had doped most of the time, the bastard), loved to walk around naked in his house (with the other characters there, and even answering the door like that, we have some hilarious stories about that), was always out of his mind with drugs and was a lovable guy, and even the bastardly things he sometimes made, you couldn't help but love him. Oh, great memories, lol...

[hunvagy]

WotD games were the ones where I didn't have the courage to try DMing. I'm more of a fantasy story telling guy, gritty and dark is not my cup of tea. So in the Vampire and Mage sessions I always was a PC. We even played Wraith once, with a superb DM, it was really suspenseful, although we had to prepare almost half a day just to have him accept our characters :) But it was really fun, mostly the part where you try to convince the other player (as you play your character, and one another ones dark side) to give up and turn over into darkness. We played until late in the morning, it was a blast.

[cpt renault]

Man, to think I never had even heard of these games until this. They sound
genuinely entertaining. I guess I'll have to pick these up and try running a few.
Which would be a good place to start?

[El Quia]

Man, to think I never had even heard of these games until this. They sound
genuinely entertaining. I guess I'll have to pick these up and try running a few.
Which would be a good place to start?

You are talking about the World of Darkness RPGs? Well, we were talking about the old WoD, which is out of print since a couple of years back. But maybe you could find some used books? The new world of darkness I didn't played, but from what I read and heard, it is different from the old in various ways, most of which sucks :p

The easiest starting point could be vampire, although it is usually the one with the worst following or the one which most easily derails into big craptitude. Mage is my favorite, but could get very hard to understand at first. Werewolf is the most combat heavy and beastly of them, and wraith needs some serious role-playing. Changeling is considered gay by most, although I found it charmingly, and refreshing after all those other wangsty games.

So, which one I recommend to start with? Vampire the Masquerade. Although I don't like a lot of it and can easily turned into superheroes with fangs (completely derailing the game) and being the one that is the most serious angsty-pansy of all, it's premise is simple, clear and familiar in a lot of ways. But do the effort to understand and learn Mage the Ascension. It's not the mechanics that are hard, but the setting and the "philosophy" (in the loosest sense) behind both the rules and setting. It is really great, and it's even better if you turn away from the New Age sorcerer wannabe angst and more into urban fantasy kind of game.

[hunvagy]

And if you like superheroes and chinese kung-fu movies, you could try to find a copy of Exalted :) That book is the one that doesn't fit with the other WoD games. You have to play demigods of sorts, and the introduction part states for the DM the art of storytelling: ".. if you played Final Fantasy VII.." well, from that on you can tell what to expect. I think it's the only game, where the DM can award unbeliavable and superhuman acts the players try to perform with extra dice :D

[El Quia]

But they are waaaay over the top, and the challenge sometimes seems ridiculous, even at relatively low levels. Also, they stole a skill mechanic I was developing, bastards! :p

[hunvagy]

But they are waaaay over the top, and the challenge sometimes seems ridiculous, even at relatively low levels. Also, they stole a skill mechanic I was developing, bastards! :p

Yup, it is very strange.. even for a white wolf game it is strange :thumbs:

Just remembered these:

How many brujahs do you need to change a lightbulb?
"Change your f****n lightbulb yourself, bub!"

How many malkavians do you need to change a lightbulb?
One, but it depends on how ripe the tomatoe is, and how willing the chicken is.:whistling:

[angry axe]

axe has played many RPGs over the years, starting with diablo when i was about 5 and a few other random games my dad had lying round the place

[hunvagy]

axe has played many RPGs over the years, starting with diablo when i was about 5 and a few other random games my dad had lying round the place

Diablo is NOT an RPG :rant: *Hides behind something big and solid, before the fanboy rage comes*

[El Quia]

axe has played many RPGs over the years, starting with diablo when i was about 5 and a few other random games my dad had lying round the place

We were talking about table-top RPG. Please, don't bring your new-fangled computer games here :tongue:

Have you played some pen & paper RPG?

[hunvagy]

I just remembered one of the funniest plays we had a few years back. We were playing D&D 3.5, and I was DMing. So the guys wanted to play high level characters (14 or so) and I said yes. They ran through the core books, and picked a lot of magical stuff, armors and weapons +5, and the like. I just smiled and let them do it. We were a few hours into the game, and I did make the sweat. A LOT. Then they decided to stay overnight in some old ruins in the middle of the jungle. I unleashed some Nightwalkers on them, with nasty abilities. One of them was that via touch attack, they can drain the magical properties of items. So after I got some lucky dice throws, both of them were running around in plain plate mails and with +2 weapons. And the monsters having a DR of 10/+3 they were on the win. And what does the Fighter/Cleric do? Starts attacking the creature with the Rod of Cure Critical Wounds :woot:
The monsters being undead take damage, and using up just about all charges, he destroyed them. Never had that much laughs in a play before :)

[Vain Vair]

Lightning Bo--...Oh... I see that was done already :whistling: Anyway.

I never did grow up with much of D&D or any other pen and papers, but the games looked fun to me, I was more into card based games (Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokémon, Ect...) But that got old after I hit 10. And seeing as how have "At home learning" I never have a lot of people to play with. (Was the same with cards, but Toys-R-Us always had something on weekends for card players)
And I know for a fact that you can't play with yourself (Pun intended) in most pen and papers.

But then it all just went away and I settled for just PC RPGs such as Might and Magic and The Elder Scrolls games. But to what the first part of this topic I'll say yes, I have Role Played in some games, City of Heroes was one, sadly ALL RP in that game now deals with cybering or just plain A-Holes that god mode the RP. I left CoH and basically stuck with single player games for RP (And that can get kind of... Odd, to say the least.) like talking to my creature in Black & White with text boxes, or using a oblivion gun mod playing as a elf who walks around and yells "Garbage Day!" while shooting people (Don't ask...)

Wow this got long :hypno: anyway that's just what I have to say about my own life/RP things. As you can see I tend to ramble, but thanks for reading.

[Saccade]

Hey Vain Vair - welcome to Abandonia.

I think that Magic: The Gathering is waiting to come on site one day.
That was a pretty good card game. The computer game isn't as good, but it's worth a look at.

Nice pic of V - he's got a good moustache.
Shame about the whole experiment camp thing, else he'd probably not have blown up and I could ask him how he keeps it in place so neatly...

And that shine... He's gotta use conditioner.

[Vain Vair]

Heh, Thanks.

And yeah I forgot about Magic, that was another I kinda liked. I hear good things about it's new 360 game, but have yet to play it.

Yeah... It's totally got to be conditioner... Guessing not one sold at Wal-Mart either :doh:

[El Quia]

Hey Vain Vair, you should try some pen and paper RPG, they are great! :D

[Saccade]

Definitely.

I found a load of White Wolf gamebooks (Vamp, Mage & Were) and stuff when packing today.
Okay, I didn't find them, Pandaaa did as I was messing around with borked archives...

Anyway - Character sheets and stuff, I'll scan.
Maybe we can get this RPG forum thing off the ground..?

Still need to find a good die programme tho - for fair, undisputed rolls.
Unless we play true RPG and use no stinking dice!

How many Tremere does it take to change a light-bulb?
We don't need no light. We make it.

[hunvagy]

Heh, Thanks.

And yeah I forgot about Magic, that was another I kinda liked. I hear good things about it's new 360 game, but have yet to play it.

Yeah... It's totally got to be conditioner... Guessing not one sold at Wal-Mart either :doh:

Yup, the new Magic game really looks nice, the only problem is, that this will be a game heavily depending on DLCs, as the creators decided to include only a handful of cards and decks into the initial release. Which most of the time sucks :) If I buy a computer game of MTG, then I really want to find all my favorite cards in it, to build my deck. On the plus side, the game only costs as much as certain cards do, so it's generally a steal.

[UnicornMagic]

I started out roleplaying on neopets. Oh the glory days haha.

Now I roleplay on forums and in chats... sometimes in games but VERY rarely.


I'm a big para-RPer. Loooove it. <3