Alpha Centauri [GoG]

[gregor]

I saw on a page dedicated to SMAC that the game is classified as rare (available on E-bay and similar site). Is the game abandoned? Could it be published here? Or is it ESA protected?

[Borodin]

It's rare only because nobody who has purchased the title is selling it. But it's still owned by God Games, and ESA-protected.

[efthimios]

Originally posted by Borodin@Aug 13 2005, 01:05 PM
God Games
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I don't know if it is just me but I find that very funny.

If you are in the UK try some of the budget range companies (xplosiv etc) because one of them has the game in some stores.
Oh, that is if there is one common cd version for both windows and mac as I remember. Which might not be the case :tomato:

[Borodin]

Originally posted by efthimios+Aug 13 2005, 01:27 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (efthimios @ Aug 13 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Borodin@Aug 13 2005, 01:05 PM
God Games
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I don't know if it is just me but I find that very funny.
[/b][/quote]
Um, why? :blink:

[efthimios]

Originally posted by Borodin+Aug 14 2005, 01:38 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Borodin @ Aug 14 2005, 01:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by efthimios@Aug 13 2005, 01:27 PM
******QuoteBegin-Borodin@Aug 13 2005, 01:05 PM
God Games
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I don't know if it is just me but I find that very funny.

Um, why? :blink: [/b][/quote]
Oh man this is even funnier!

You meant G.O.D. games? As in Gathering of developers?
I thought you were being sarcastic about E.A. :D

:roflol:

[Sebatianos]

Well we have Sid Meier's games here (even though they are generally ESA protected), but we're alowed to host them, so maybe we would be able to host Alpha Centauri. But that would depend... Maybe sometimes in the future. If nothing else the archive would be quite big (180MB if I remember correctly).

[Borodin]

Originally posted by efthimios+Aug 14 2005, 12:27 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (efthimios @ Aug 14 2005, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Borodin@Aug 14 2005, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by efthimios@Aug 13 2005, 01:27 PM
******QuoteBegin-Borodin@Aug 13 2005, 01:05 PM
God Games
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
I don't know if it is just me but I find that very funny.

Um, why? :blink:
Oh man this is even funnier!

You meant G.O.D. games? As in Gathering of developers?
I thought you were being sarcastic about E.A. :D

:roflol: [/b][/quote]
I see! :D No, I meant G.O.D.. Electronic Arts has nothing to do with the game, and if it did, I'd probably refer to them as Bloated Corporate Follies rather than God Games. :angel:

[Bernie]

Alpha Centauri rare? but it is still sold in many shops :/

[gregor]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Aug 14 2005, 12:52 PM
Well we have Sid Meier's games here (even though they are generally ESA protected), but we're alowed to host them, so maybe we would be able to host Alpha Centauri. But that would depend... Maybe sometimes in the future. If nothing else the archive would be quite big (180MB if I remember correctly).
i am asking because i have a ripped version (no movies) which is "only" 47MB big.

And i would be willing to share it, but only if it is allowed offocurse.


However if it's still sold than we can end the discussion.

[A. J. Raffles]

But isn't there the "only original games" thing as well? I mean, a ripped version would hardly be the original game, would it?:unsure:

[BeefontheBone]

Plus it's a Windows game, not DOS, as well as being a bit big atm. SMAC isn't too hard to find, but the add-on SMAX is very difficult to get in the shops (and in fact is hosted on HotU).

[gregor]

Originally posted by A. J. Raffles@Aug 15 2005, 07:53 AM
But isn't there the "only original games" thing as well? I mean, a ripped version would hardly be the original game, would it?:unsure:
yes that too but since i saw that CIV 2 was not original i.e. without movies...

Also i think this version is copy of original only without movies. because it has all sounds.

[A. J. Raffles]

Hmm, I always thought that the ripped versions on the site were ripped by whoever uploaded them to keep the archive at a reasonable size, but those people still own the original versions. I may be wrong about that, though.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by gregor+Aug 15 2005, 04:07 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gregor @ Aug 15 2005, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-A. J. Raffles@Aug 15 2005, 07:53 AM
But isn't there the "only original games" thing as well? I mean, a ripped version would hardly be the original game, would it?:unsure:
yes that too but since i saw that CIV 2 was not original i.e. without movies...

Also i think this version is copy of original only without movies. because it has all sounds. [/b][/quote]
Civ 2 is missing music files, and much more. (king files etc.)

It is the same as if you start the game without the CD in the drive.

[Borodin]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone@Aug 15 2005, 08:23 AM
Plus it's a Windows game, not DOS, as well as being a bit big atm. SMAC isn't too hard to find, but the add-on SMAX is very difficult to get in the shops (and in fact is hosted on HotU).
Although I think a separate SMAC for Windows was eventually released, SMAC was a DOS-based game. I have my original copy. There's no mention of Windows, and it runs from the DOS prompt.

[moogle]

I have Civ2 and Alpha Centauri plus expansion....if you guys need it....

[gregor]

Originally posted by Anubis@Aug 15 2005, 02:06 PM
[b] [quote] [quote]
that's what i have. the version without the CD.

The game is working nromally only it doesne't show animations etc. In beggining it asks you to insert the CD and i just say no and it tells me that i won't see certain things or something like that. after that it works fine. single and multiplayer.

so it is an original.

Like in old civ you can also change all names, credits, races...

the question here is if the game can be actually put on this site. it's 47-48MB large and also quite new. i dont' know if we are allowed to host it.

And it's a windows version.

[Mats]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone@Aug 15 2005, 09:23 AM
Plus it's a Windows game, not DOS, as well as being a bit big atm. SMAC isn't too hard to find, but the add-on SMAX is very difficult to get in the shops (and in fact is hosted on HotU).
The only trouble is that if you have the windows version of the game and the add-on, is that once you install the add-on over the game in XP SMAX simply won't start (SMAC clean won't start either but that just takes a little fiddling with an EXE file).


///MJ

[BeefontheBone]

Runs ok for me - there's an XP fix on Firaxis' website IIRC.

[Mats]

I bow to your wisdom and I shall aquire that precious piece of data in a jiffy.


///MJ

[The Niles]

Not even HotU is willing to touch Alpha Centaury. Sorry but this one is a no-go.

[Rorschach]

I only played a demo of SMAC, so I'm wondering, is it very similar to the "sci-fi scenario" in the Test of Time expansion of Civ 2? I know the general idea is pretty much the same, but the sci-fi scenario was more of a total conversion, right? Anyway, the multiple maps idea that Test of Time used and the "plotline" along the tech tree made it seem more atractive to me than he little I saw of SMAC.

[efthimios]

Well, there are many differences between the two. In SMAC you only have one planet and not the several "planets" you have on the sci fi of ToT. SMAC also has new and different map, which in many ways is better but also worse. It is more 3D and you can clearly see the elevations. Though (for me) it is far more difficult to know when you are on a mountain and when you are on a hill. There are some major differences in diplomacy and gameplay. Like the use of Borders and a much better diplomatic system. Or for example the customizing of units. Where ToT Sci Fi scenario is ToT in a different setting, if you play SMAC thinking of Civ in space (or alpha centauri) you might feel dissapointed by the game. BUT, if you take SMAC for a strategy game unrelated to Civ (as it should have been promoted IMO), then you are in for a treat, cause it is a very good strategy game.

[gregor]

SMAC is similar to CIV3 and CIV 2.

Similar in the technology way and the way cities are governed.

It has one advantage over both - you can create new units by yourself equiping them with wepaons and armor to your liking.

Unfortunatelly, as you can see in post above, you still have to buy it to play it.

[ysorian]

i see you guys have the civ and colonization games here but i cant seem to find alpha centauri... another wonderful sid meyer strategy game... any chance it can be found? (guessin it wont be downloadable tho :( )

[The Fifth Horseman]

IIRC it was requested before and is either still sold or protected, don't remember which.

[GTX2GvO]

IIRC it was requested before and is either still sold or protected, don't remember which.

It seems to be Both according to the OldWares List (http://www.abandonia.com/en/oldwarez/alpha+centauri/0/0/title/). :confused:

[Dave]

Sold at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-10509-Meiers-Centauri/dp/B00001NTSO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1212665486&sr=1-1).

[Luchsen]

It seems to be Both according to the OldWares List (http://www.abandonia.com/en/oldwarez/alpha+centauri/0/0/title/). :confused:

The first one is an expansion named Alien Crossfire. Btw: sold is a special case of protected.

[Indignus IV]

I'm not sure if it's abandonware, but on it's on HOTU so it should be. It came out in '99 and is now out of print. So.....
I have a few copies of it, but I don't know if I can upload it since I bought them when they were still in print, and thus are unrippable.

[skaven510]

It's still being sold. http://www.direct2drive.com/12/153/product/Buy-Sid-Meier's-Alpha-Centauri-Guide-Download

I would guess that most of Sid's games are not going to become abandonware for a very long time.

Edit: My mistake the link I posted above was just for the strategy guide:rolleyes: Sorry about that but it is still being sold on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-12023-Alpha-Centauri/dp/B00004XRBD It's one of their "classics" rereleases.

[Indignus IV]

yeah, you're right. Wishful thinking.
In fact, just recently I bought a 5-game set of Meier's best games that included SMAC.
Sigh - I would looove to review it. Best damn strategy game ever.

[Dave]

You can review it on Communnity Reviews (http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/forumdisplay.php?f=35) :)
We will use your review when the game is no more sold.

[nightmare1967]

What about Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire

The Official Expansion Pack For SID MEIER'S ALPHA CENTAURI

[Indignus IV]

right - thanks. You see, I haven't been on abandonia in a long, long time and I'm just getting oriented again.

[The Fifth Horseman]

What about Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire
The Official Expansion Pack For SID MEIER'S ALPHA CENTAURI
Not quite an expansion pack, since it has the entire original game in it as well.
And that means it is unsafe as long as the original is.

[Indignus IV]

except that I have not seen Alien Crossfire for sale anywhere, online or otherwise. Centauri is still in stores, though.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Yes, but if we put up Alien Crossfire, we'll harm the distributors still selling Alpha Centauri.
Which is against site policy.

[Indignus IV]

I knoes ;)
just sayin.

[goblins]

Have looked it up would like to request it, not sold on direct to drive anymore ( the guide to the game is not the actual game)

was on sold out software - not anymore
same with gametap was taken off there
Not sold thro any legal distribution channels ( steam, gamersgate etc)
firaxis dont sell it
EA own the rights not sold through any of their distribtuion networks ive sent 100s of emails and hit brick wall to try and get it sold legally

All other google searches that have results come up nothing

amazon charge 200 bucks for it u cant buy it new only 2nd hand same goes for ebay but sellers raise prices.

Any chance of getting it up on Abandonia if not ill accept that and continue my crusade with EA to get it sold

[Mighty Midget]

If that is Sid Meyer's AC, then I'm afraid it's still protected. If I'm not terribly mistaking, EA is an ESA member, and thus AC is protected for 15 years (as far as AB's concerned) counting from 1999.

[Luchsen]

Amazon charges $16.95+ for it. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00001NTSO/sr=1-1/qid=1212665486/ref=olp_tab_new?ie=UTF8&coliid=&me=&qid=1212665486&sr=1-1&seller=&colid=&condition=new)

[The Fifth Horseman]

Mighty Midget is correct about this. Alpha Centauri is under ESA protection.

[Expack2]

Alpha Centauri - [SOLD] (GOG.com (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/sid_meiers_alpha_centauri))