Best Sci Fi series ever?

[The Niles]

Which Sci Fi series of the ones I list do you think is the best and why?
Always interesting to see. I will post my own answer in a few days.

[Kosta]

Well, if I had to choose between those, my vote would definitely go to TNG. However, if you had put Enterprise there, I would have given it second thought :) As you are a TNG fan I presume you dispise Enterprise, but I had to say it... :) As for the others, Babylon5 was just too "cheap" for me and couldn't keep my attention long enough. So, The Next Generation it is, dispite of all its flaws :wink:

[mika]

Hey, this is an abandonware site and V is kinda abandonware iznit?! ;)

It's got my vote.

[Danny252]

TNG!! TNG!!
Ok, I like Star Trek:Voyager best, but you forgot it :'(! But remember, there are 3 Sci-Fi fan types. The Star Trek type, the Star Wars type and the other loads of crap things type. The Star Trek and Star Wars types REALLY don't mix well though...
On another note, I've seen them all except V. Super-Mini Series.
Oh and theres a new Enterprise one which is like before Star Trek original. THE Enterprise A. anyone seen this?

[The Niles]

Actually Danny, the Enterprise A wasn't christened until the movie Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The NCC 1701 was the one from the series. The A version had to be rechristened because the origional one was destroyed in Star Trek III: The search for Spock.

How can anyone say that Enterprise is better then TNG? Enterprise lacks one thing that is essential to any Scif Fi series, good stories. Enterprise has a high budget (more then TNG ever had let alone TOS), reasonable acting (not as good as TNG) but it has crap stories. So Godawfull it hurts to even watch them. I actually turn off one episode this season something that has never happened to me before in my whole life i.e. not any other episode of star trek did this to me. I have come close, mainly other Enterprise episodes and that bastard of a series Deep Space Nine but I always managed to watch it to the end. Not this time, similitude was too bad simply too bad. There are episodes I like but after season one these are few and far between.

Babylon 5 was never a series with a big budget. That was the main reason they choose to use CGI rather then models like TNG did. With the space sequences this is not bad. It gives a lot more movement on screen then in TNG but they also used it for planet shots and it was far too early to do that yet with the technology at the time. The stand alone episodes of B5 are bad no argument but the continueing story in B5 was enough for me to buy them all on DVD (still waiting for season 4). A great series for Sci FI.

The reason I choose not to put in other Star Trek shows like Enterprise and Voyager is three fold.
1] Since there are five different star trek shows the poll would be a little Star Trek heavy.
2] I don't think those shows are good enough to be in such a poll (I like Voyager but it is simply more TNG in my opinion. And TNG was better)
3] Not many people are going to vote so I don't want twenty options seven of which will recieve one vote. No winner).

You will likely all be surprised at my pick. It is NOT TNG. TNG is a good second but it is not the best in my opinion.

There are in fact many different Sci Fi generes other then Star Trek (the discoverie of humanity through the exploration of space) and Star Wars (a fairy tale set in Sci Fi). B5 for instance is a space opera. V was a homage to resistance fighters of WWII.
I could go on but enough of my rant. I will post my choice and the reason for it later tonight or tomorow.

[Prox]

:D TOS!!!

[The Niles]

Now for my vote. As I have already stated my vote will not go to TNG although I think this is one of the best Sci Fi series in history and certainly the best Star Trek series I believe there is one better even then TNG.

Farscape, introduced as an obscure attempt by the sci fi channel to gain some ratings against the though competition of then DS9 and Voyager. certainly doomed to failure as yet one more nameless sci fi series no-one remembers or regrets passing. But wait! Farscape has something going for itself. While many other sci fi series bring nothing more then bland writing, mediocre acting and poor graphics, Farscape gives us the might of the whole Henson company to give the best animatronics in the business, a cast that can not only act but also manages to entertain simply by being on the screen. And the writing, ohh, the writing. Science Fiction used to be about exploring the unknown, seeing the undreamed of and experiencing the unheard. Farscape brings just that back. After seeing all four seasons of Farscape I cannot say I was ever bored, not even once. Each time I sat down in front of my television set I was treated to a delight. Never could I predict how an episode would turn out and more then once the writers managed to completely surprise me by a sudden plot twist. Always I felt shock when fourty-seven minutes later the episode ended. So soon? It can't be! But it did and even worse after only four seasons the plug was pulled on this brilliant series. License holders "the sci fi channel" choose to put on a cheaper show that appealed to the (larger) unintelligent crowed. 88 episodes is all that was made. 22 of which are now in my possession on DVD. Once I have the money I'll buy them all and recommend you all to do the same so you too can own this marvel of sci fi history.

[Kosta]

I must say I never heard of it! :oops:
I'll certainly check it out.... thanks for the tip!

[mika]

Damn man Picard, you write really well! You should really write a review or two..

[Kosta]

He actually did! :)
And you can see it in action here http://www.abandonia.com/game_display.php?ID=86

[The Niles]

Damn man Picard, you write really well! You should really write a review or two..


Thanks, I wrote two already but Kosta deemed one of the games to bad to put on the site. I can't blame him it was a stinker.

Right now I'm working on the review of Star Trek: 25th Anniversary. I hope to have that finished early next week.

[Jwh D'Ar]

Farscape might be good, but far from TNG. :wink:
TNG is in a league of it's own and a quasi-sentimental Farscape review is not going to change that. :(
Sorry, but the number of fans the series has is argument enough. :D

[The Niles]

TNG is in a league of it's own

Now that is exactly my point. Star Trek in general and TNG in particular is all about exploration of the human hart while Farscape (and most other sci fi series) is about the exploration of space. Comparing the two is difficult if not impossible. Ranking one above the other can only be done when setting a bar from which to compare them. I choose sci fi as that bar. I stand by my opinion.
Saying that one series has more fans then the other proves only which series is more popular not which is the better one. The are quite a few more people who buy AC/DC albums then there are Beethoven fans. Still few people would argue about who the bigger musical genius was/is.

[muaddib]

It has been some time since I watched it, but I like Stargate, I was never really interested in Star Trek, and all the other series are unknown to me. :P

[Anonymous]

TNG is in a league of it's own

Now that is exactly my point. Star Trek in general and TNG in particular is all about exploration of the human hart while Farscape (and most other sci fi series) is about the exploration of space. Comparing the two is difficult if not impossible. Ranking one above the other can only be done when setting a bar from which to compare them. I choose sci fi as that bar. I stand by my opinion.
Saying that one series has more fans then the other proves only which series is more popular not which is the better one. The are quite a few more people who buy AC/DC albums then there are Beethoven fans. Still few people would argue about who the bigger musical genius was/is.

Actually, if a series is much more popular there's a good chance it's the better one. It's the vote of majority.
Talking from a sci-fi perspective, TNG is much more elaborated on technical stuff, has detailed history, lenguages, sistems, and IS about exploration.
Beethoven or AC/DC was a wrong argument. I'm not sure if AC/DC has more records sold, but try to imagine how many people will listen to them in 200 years. Beethoven will certainly have the same popularity and that proves my point. Some things become classics and Star Trek is one of them.

[Jwh D'Ar]

Forgot to log in on the last post. :D

[Icemant90]

Don't ask me, I haven't heard of any of 'em :D.

[LotharGR]

It's a pity that Babylon 5 hasn't got any votes :) It deserves some, at least the first episodes where very good :)

[The Niles]

Yeah Babylon 5 deserves a vote. It brought epic story telling to Sci Fi television and even though it never inspired many other series (Space: Above and Beyond and Farscape to some extend) it marks a watershed in Sci Fi history.

[LotharGR]

A bit of info about Babylon 5... If i remember correctly in the first episodes at least the graphics were made by a Amiga 4000, or so i had heard at that time :) but i don't know if this is true

[Anonymous]

I recall it was done on a few 486's that were working all night on a single scene. It was in one of the specials on the DVD's. The renders look very dated now. That's one reason why real models still have my vote when it comes to special effects.

[The Niles]

Dammit why can guest post here? Anyway that's me above and I just wanted to add that I think the first episdes were the worst ones. After season one the story finally gets going and we get an actually good captain.

[saidie]

I did like TNG but babylon as a whole was more interesting. so I put that one.

[Mr.Peskapoe]

TNG does it for me, its the only show I never found "silly", and thats saying alot when it comes to sci-fi. Its mature in a way few other sci-fi shows are. Its also probebly the only one who manage to appeal without action, largly becouse its so well written and well acted.

B5 and Farscape, which the Picard introduced me to, deserves mentioning as well.

[EDIT]haha, why does it say "the Pizzard" when I''ve typed "the p i c a r d". :D

[Tom Henrik]

The name changes, because my little neighbour to the right (Sweden), the Site Gnome, has had some fun of his own... changing the names for himself, K0STA and The Captain.

So that whenever you write their names, his interpretation appears instead. :)

[The Niles]

The Picard strikes again. 8)

[Titan]

Don't forget the Titan (Tit@n)

[Anonymous]

hahaha, nice :D

[Kent Paynter]

V is such a funny show. They showed the series here in Finland recently and I almost laughed my eyes out!!!! :crazy: :crazy: