A Member Cleanup

[punch999]

i have a idea and i wanted to no how evry 1 thought about it

Maybe we should have a non active member cleanup like maybe deleting evry member tht has posted less the 20 times and hasnt posted in a month cause we have alot of usernames and lots of spaces tht some1 might want but isnt available eventhough tht person has nvr posted.

just a thought want to hear suggestions?

[mouse31e]

I don't think less than 20 times would work. Some people might only post once a month or two months. Should they be removed for that? Also some people might join and then it could be a while before they really get posting!

I see your point though. We do have around 370 members who have never posted.

[Titan]

And we have several who has done 1 post... like 6 months ago..

BUT... If you are a guest, i'm not shure you can even see the entire forum, and defenetly not post in many topics...

[evilded]

I think its a good idea. If you havent posted in 6 months, you really dont care about abandonia.

[Eagle of Fire]

Same here. It is a sure thing that by removing all those 0 post wonders some would need to register again, but then if they are really interested in this forum it won't be a big deal for them.

I just can't understand why some people register somewhere if they don't want to post at all.

Wiping all those 0 post users once can't be that bad. Maybe it should be done twice a year, so anyone who never posted and did not post in the past 6 months would get deleted. Everyone who attained a tittle above "newbie spammer" or another higher title, would be exempt of this.

It would be stupid to remove someone with 1000 post after 6 months of innactivity since they already contributed so much to the forum, and might just come back.

[Sebatianos]

Eagle has a point!
There should be a date set - and twice a year someone should check the members out. There are some who never post. REgister for a question or two - and leave.
But there should be an option for them to take their membership back. Let's say they get a warning in their mail accout saying: Your abandonia mombership has expired. If you wish to stay a member of Abandonia (for free off course) just click on this link.
And there should be a confirmation link. If they forgot about Abandonia, or would like to get active again they can, otherwise :bye:

[wormpaul]

I think that`s the best solution..

Give them a change to become active again and othwerwise delete the account..

Only 1 problem: We almost got 1000 members....after the delete it will be destroyed to 700 :not_ok:

[Kosta]

Yeah, I'll see what kind of cleanup options the forum offers! I'll erase anyone who has registered over 2 months ago and hasn't visited since, or anyone who has less than 5 posts and posted over 6 months ago....

[wormpaul]

Everyone less then 5 posts??

At this point newbies will be kicked also....

Or is it just 5 posts in last 6 months??...then it's ok..

Otherwise it's not fair for the newbies here around :ok:

[mouse31e]

I think he means if they didn't post at all in the last six months and they also have less than five posts! :D

[FreeFreddy]

Yes, it's a good idea. I think best would be the ones who registered and didn't post more than 1 post in 1-2 months. And those with 5 or less posts they posted in all the 6 months also wouldn't need their account, it seems.

[Titan]

*agrees with Kosta* :kosta: oh gräjt mastah!

[Puffin]

Yeah, I think it's a great idea!
But the email Sebatianos mentioned could be great, give them maybe 2 days after the email is sent, then they might return and get active ;)

[Tom Henrik]

Originally posted by Titan@Dec 15 2004, 12:25 PM
*agrees with Kosta* :kosta: oh gräjt mastah!
*coughSUCK-UPcough*

[Titan]

Tom: He's the owner... it's everyone duity to suck up to him, and make him feel important.. ;)


:ot: .. i know..

:adminpower:

[punch999]

well im glad to see evry one likes my idea so hell kosta what r ya waitin for

[Kosta]

I was just about to run the pruning with the follownig info:
Member didn't post in the last 2 months
Member has less than 10 posts
Mebmer joined at least 1 year ago
---------------

533 members fit the criteria!!! :blink: I'm kind of affraid to hit the delete button

[FreeFreddy]

Perhaps better the ones with 5 or less posts?

[Caged]

sounds like good idea. All too often people join just to post a topic then leave without thinking about it. (I know, I've done it before on other sites, LOL)

great idea man!

[Titan]

Ummm... joined 1 yr ago?

[Yamcha]

There are hundreds of members with 1-6 post registered in march 2003 :angry:

[bohor]

Originally posted by Kosta@Dec 15 2004, 01:40 PM
I was just about to run the pruning with the follownig info:
Member didn't post in the last 2 months
Member has less than 10 posts
Mebmer joined at least 1 year ago
---------------

533 members fit the criteria!!! :blink: I'm kind of affraid to hit the delete button
:Brain: CLICK THE BUTTON!! :Brain:

I really think you should, why not, we dont need the stupid numbers!!

click it... truth hurts...

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Kosta@Dec 15 2004, 01:40 PM

Mebmer joined at least 1 year ago
---------------


Why this one/??

[Fawfulhasfury]

I am safe. :Brain: Agree. It's just the right kinda havoc. :D

[punch999]

No dont press the Big red button!!!!!!


Ahh who cares delete them all!!!!!!!!

[garbage]

good idea, but since this is my first post i shoud shut my mouth
:whistle:

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by punch999@Dec 15 2004, 06:31 PM
No dont press the Big red button!!!!!!


Ahh who cares delete them all!!!!!!!!
If you were at their place you wouldn't say that thing <_<

[FreeFreddy]

And without them the forum would be quite...empty :whistle:

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Dec 15 2004, 06:43 PM
And without them the forum would be quite...empty :whistle:
They arent in the forums anyway :bye:

[FreeFreddy]

But they cause the illusion to appear that we're many. ;)

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Dec 15 2004, 06:46 PM
But they cause the illusion to appear that we're many. ;)
I prefere 100 active members and not 850 "register user"

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by garbage@Dec 15 2004, 04:35 PM
good idea, but since this is my first post i shoud shut my mouth
:whistle:
Hopefully you wont be kicked then :wall:

[marko river]

Deleting members is cool, but we shouldn't be so rigorous. If someone didn't posted in 6 months then he should go. If he posts few times in a year, then I'm not sure. Also, how much time someone has for how many posts. Don't just delete, they are people DAMNIT!!!!!

Sebatations idea for mail is coo. Then again, if someone is not active at all, he won't give a damn abouti it. Still, Idoub that warning mail will hurt :)

[marko river]

Originally posted by Titan@Dec 15 2004, 01:03 PM
Tom: He's the owner... it's everyone duity to suck up to him, and make him feel important.. ;)


Is this how you became adimn????? :sick:

[FreeFreddy]

So let's sum the most / best sounding ideas so far up.
People that didn't post more than 5-10 posts, and their last post was 6 months ago. They should get an e-mail that will warn them that they'll become deleted.
In that way I think it sounds best. Why not warning those fitting members and delete them in case of lack of caring then?

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Dec 15 2004, 06:57 PM
So let's sum the most / best sounding ideas so far up.
People that didn't post more than 5-10 posts, and their last post was 6 months ago. They should get an e-mail that will warn them that they'll become deleted.
In that way I think it sounds best. Why not warning those fitting members and delete them in case of lack of caring then?
W8 W8 W8 W8

I sugest we send them a warning mail :bye: to tell them :bye:

[FreeFreddy]

That's what I said just in your quote too... :rolleyes:

[Yamcha]

oops :tomato:

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by yamcha565656+Dec 15 2004, 06:02 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (yamcha565656 @ Dec 15 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-FreeFreddy@Dec 15 2004, 06:57 PM
So let's sum the most / best sounding ideas so far up.
People that didn't post more than 5-10 posts, and their last post was 6 months ago. They should get an e-mail that will warn them that they'll become deleted.
In that way I think it sounds best. Why not warning those fitting members and delete them in case of lack of caring then?
W8 W8 W8 W8

I sugest we send them a warning mail :bye: to tell them :bye: [/b][/quote]
Yeah, let's send them a warning e-mail!!

1. Because on that way, you will 100% be sure that they are not willing to come back and be active.
2. And because maybe some of them still want to be active, so when they recieve your message, they will come back to site!! :ok:


@Titan
*coughSUCK-UPcough* LOL
I am not going to suck-up to became an admin, cause one day I will become without that "regular procedure!"

[Kosta]

Well, unfortunately, the forum doesn't give me an option to email people that fit that criteria, just delete them, and I don't plan on writing an SQL for that myself. So its either delete, or not delete :)

[Yamcha]

DELETE :Titan:

[aaberg]

Well. The sql would be something like:

DELETE FROM Members
WHERE LastPostDate = DATEADD(m, -2, getdate())
AND NumberOfPost < 10
AND JoinDate = DATEADD(m, -12, getdate())
OR Name LIKE 'Tom%'



Whoops, did I just delete Tom Henrik, sorry about that, my fault, my fault. :sneaky:

[punch999]

DELETE

:kosta: :kosta: :kosta: Hail Kosta :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:

[Data]

what's wrong with some accounts that aren't active.
Come on you're talking small numbers here. The site isn't going to be much slower or so because to it.

maybe if people whould double post less and spam less on the forum.... that would help.

Anyway if you do want to remove accounts. I would suggest removing accounts without any posts and older then 3 months. or 6 monts and less then 3 posts.

[punch999]

its not im saying tht its slowing any1 down im saying its just a nuisence having so many ppl registered and nvr really ever posted or anything


like my new sig im "sucking up" LOL

[Braindead]

Originally posted by punch999@Dec 15 2004, 01:31 PM
well im glad to see evry one likes my idea so hell kosta what r ya waitin for
Well actually I don't like the idea.

Reasons:
1. I don't see the need to delete members it's not like the forum will be faster because of it (well at least not on the posting side) or that we are short of diskspace.

Other Reasons:
2. People will join the site faster if they see a forum with 1000 members rather than a forum that only has 100 members, most of the people figure if a site has a lot of members it must be this site is special somehow...
3. Some people register to benefit from things only registered users have (such as being able to use the view new posts functionality)
4. If we keep deleting members we will never reach 1000 members (which is very close now)

I can write plenty of other reasons but I don't want to bore you to death :)

[punch999]

keep going i have alot of paitience and i have all day
and by the way ppl may join a forum with 1k ppl faster then 1 with 100 yet it is a bit of a lie when they figure out we only have maybe 5o ppl tht r active

[Tom Henrik]

I am against this whole idea of member deletion, but Kosta decides... and he knows how I feel.

[mouse31e]

The only advantage I can see to deleting a huge number of members would be if they were using usernames that other people wanted but I can't see that happening very often!

I don't think it matters if they're making the forum look bigger than it really is. It will make us look bigger and probably encourage more people who will actually post to join.

Anyone who has ever run their own forum will know that people don't want to join a forum with 5, 10 or 20 members but they are more likely to join one with 100+ members. It's not like we're making it up! They're all legitimate members.

Also, how many times do you see forums with 10,000 members? Quite regularly and I'm sure they don't all post every day!

[punch999]

well i guess we should have a poll

[Data]

the democratic features are limited to the admins i think and the owner has a mega veto

[punch999]

????

[Fawfulhasfury]

He said that the owner and the admins have the only say in the matter and he also said we were losers and he hates us all. :blink: Well, alright, he just said the thing bout who has say in the matter. :whistle:

[punch999]

LOL i noticed when he closed my poll :(

[Tom Henrik]

Yes, Data can be harsh sometimes... but sofar he has been correct in every decision he has made.

The rest of us admins are just too weak to do our jobs...keeping the forum tidy.

[Data]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Dec 16 2004, 01:57 AM
Yes, Data can be harsh sometimes... but sofar he has been correct in every decision he has made.
You are completely right.

What I meant to say was that you are all free to give arguments for a cleanup
The decission is made by the admin and ultimately by kosta.

I meant no offense to anybody pleading for their cause.

[punch999]

just tryin to give yall the popular oppinion

edit:oh sry i didnt no kosta already made his dicision and if i may ask what was it??

oh and i cant throw rocks at data darn *drops his rocks*

[FreeFreddy]

Be sure if you would try, you would get something more heavy in return... :sneaky:

[wormpaul]

Still waiting for the decision...

But i rather see a honest forum with just 400-500 members then a totally fake forum with 1000 members...

But just my opinion... :whistle:

[marko river]

I agree with Braindead that deleting large number of people is not good idea. I don't care if the forum is gonna look bigger. If our site is good, then people will come. If you want to delete someone then he should really be unactive for a long time. Just deleting like that is totaly rush. It is not something we can't live without (I hope at least). It looks like some sort of inquisition to me.

It's like this:
Admin: Hello dear member. We see that you don't post much lately.

Member: Well hello. Yes, yes, I know. Been real busy lately. Still I manage to come once a while. I really love your site.

A: Offcourse, that's because we're so good. It seems that you are not familiar with our NEW RULES. We only care about people that keep posting.

M: No? What? I.... I didn't.

A: Oh, well, that's too bad. It seems that you are about to be deleted since number of your posts fits deleting criteria.

M: But I posted couple of times. I'm quite busy now. I will post more and I AM VISTING your site all the time.

A: Yes, well, we all regret because we're about to lose you.

M: BUT, BUT, I HONESTLY LOVE YOUR SITE!!!! I WANT TO STAY A MEMBER!!! I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE IN THE FUTURE AND TO MAKE THE SITE LOOK BIGGER!!!! SITE IS GREAT AND WITH ALL OF US IT WILL BE EVEN......

A: Offcourse you do. Sure, sure.... Well, farewell...... (Admin politely smiles)

M: BUT WAIT, NO, WAAAAIIIIIITTTTTT...................... (delete button is pressed)

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by punch999@Dec 15 2004, 01:51 AM
i have a idea and i wanted to no how evry 1 thought about it

Maybe we should have a non active member cleanup like maybe deleting evry member tht has posted less the 20 times and hasnt posted in a month cause we have alot of usernames and lots of spaces tht some1 might want but isnt available eventhough tht person has nvr posted.

just a thought want to hear suggestions?
This has probably been said but 4 pages is too much to go through.

If you do delete members who haven't been active for a couple of months, and then they decide to come back just to see how it is and then they find they have been deleted. They would probably get pretty pissed off. I know I would. :not_ok:

Actually I can't believe this idea was even suggested. :blink:

[wormpaul]

LOL LOL LOL

But other option:

Why should people still come here and only read when they have made ZERO post in all that time...

Maybe just delete then all user with 0 posts who has been here longer then 1 month.....

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I still don't think it should be done. No one really cares how many members there are. Plus just by reading most of the topics you can see that all the members aren't active. I'm sure this happens in all forums around the world, and I'm sure they are all sane enough not to delete inactive members.

[marko river]

And to the rest of you "suckers" that keep "sucking"........ Well, I made my point :angel:

(hope omuletzu won't delete this post)

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Who is this guy. :blink:

[bohor]

well I sugest a new criteria...
we delete all members that have accounts at least one year old, havent posted for 6 months, and have less than 5 posts...
surely, a person that fits in this criteria, due to the long period of not posting, has already forgoten his password and probably user name too, so he probably wont be able to retrive the password and etc. etc...

[marko river]

Now this is more reasonable. :ok:

[Data]

posting isn't the only useful feature of registring.
as pointed out allready:

1. new post highlighting.
2.email notifications on replies
3. pm

[FreeFreddy]

Well, you're all right here, actually. Why delete them if this doesn't bring some advantage at all, not more bandwidth or saved space. In that case, it's better to leave them all, to make out forum look bigger, too.
But heck, as it seems Kosta met his own decision already, why discuss this all here further? No point anymore...

[marko river]

Would it be too much to ask what's Kosta's decision, since I'm not familiar.....

[FreeFreddy]

I don't know either, but someone mentioned that before somewhere here... Tom, I think...

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Was the descision posted in here?

[FreeFreddy]

No idea, I seem not to be able to find it here... But I know I read something about that somewhere in the forum...

[Kosta]

Ehrm, yes, the big decision. :) I will leave it as it is now, when the member count crosses 2000, I'll consider cutting it down! Perhaps there are users who just read the forums but don't participate. I don't want to risk deleting their accounts yet. As it was pointed out already, they don't take up any space, so it doesn't matter!

[Iron_Scarecrow]

No members should be deleted. No matter how many there are.

[Rogue]

I am also against any deletion. A lot of times I sign different forums, just so I can keep same nick, or to look at some topics that are not available for guests (some of topics are hiden, if you are guest).

If there will be some deleteion, then only 0 post, and not loged in in the last 2-3 months. (that will clean big part of it)

As for sucking up, I will never become a VIP. :D

[wormpaul]

:not_ok: Hmm..

It can happen... :not_ok:

[punch999]

sadly.....LOL

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Anubis@Dec 16 2004, 04:45 PM
As for sucking up, I will never become a VIP. :D
That's not what you need to do, you must do a few reviews and you get the VIP, although in your case I must say, you've been quite helpful at the forum, and you made your self noted. Just write oe review (and suply a game) and you're half way there.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Yeah I think if I supply one more review I get mine. I said I'd do guilty 3 or 4 weeks ago. And I'm only half way through the game, and that's with a walkthrough. :blink: :blink:

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Dec 16 2004, 07:04 PM
Yeah I think if I supply one more review I get mine. I said I'd do guilty 3 or 4 weeks ago. And I'm only half way through the game, and that's with a walkthrough. :blink: :blink:
The rules are simple: review games and get a one month VIP pass (after that time we'll see what happens)!

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Dec 16 2004, 05:04 PM
Yeah I think if I supply one more review I get mine. I said I'd do guilty 3 or 4 weeks ago. And I'm only half way through the game, and that's with a walkthrough. :blink: :blink:
Based on wich feeling Iron?? :blink:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Feeling????

Guilty is the name of the game if that's what you were referring to.

[FreeFreddy]

Then you better to write it in large capitals, so it's clear what you mean. ;)
Ok, it seems the topic served it's sense. Let's close it now.