Holiday Island

[Romano]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available) (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/24114/Holiday+Island.html)

[BranjoHello]

I think that it is impossible to find perfect version of this game, I played this one that is directly available for download and full version that is available at ISO Cellar topic but game works fine only first time you start it, every other time it has various bugs but mostly their related to the News section of the game. :wacko:
Or maybe my computer just don't like to have Holiday Island on it's HDD. :D

[Ironlion]

I think that it is impossible to find perfect version of this game, I played this one that is directly available for download and full version that is available at ISO Cellar topic but game works fine only first time you start it, every other time it has various bugs but mostly their related to the News section of the game. :wacko:
Or maybe my computer just don't like to have Holiday Island on it's HDD. :D

Aye, It seems whatever device plays the news files and displays that aspect of the game does not agree with windows XP. I have not found a suitable workaround.

[mick.tripp]

I got annoyed with the german error messages, so I had a look at the DAT files and found errors in the file "Holiday\DATA\FILENAME", all you need to do is delete the spaces between the file names and the extension.

so
xxxxxxx .bmp
xxxx .bmp
becomes
xxxxxxx.bmp
xxxx.bmp

This won't correct old savegames, you will need to start a new game and turn off speech (I also had music turned off, not sure if that makes a difference).

You can now play the game fully with new buildings becoming available and auctions for attractions and historic sites e.t.c.

The problem with speech is probably to do with a similar DAT file, but I haven't looked into it yet.

I have emailed the abandonia staff with this info and details of a possible cheat I stumbled upon while checking the DAT files, so maybe the offending file will be replaced with a corrected version soon.

mick.tripp

[_r.u.s.s.]

thanks for the headsup. pity the ftp server is temporarily down, remind us when all things get back to normal

[mick.tripp]

This will make it easier, I have attached the corrected version of the file.
Just replace the old one with this and you're ready to go.

I have just noticed that .DAT files are not allowed as attachments, so I've uploaded it as a .TXT file, you will need to open it in a text, editor save it as "all files" with "FILENAME.DAT" as the filename.

[mick.tripp]

Sorry forgot to upload. Here it is-

[idan200]

i found a bug, when i want to sell hotel he tell me thet have problam whit MCI
help me!

[Holy Paradise]

I start off every game with 4,000,000 in debt.

Anyway to fix that?

[laiocfar]

there are scenarios where you should start with 4M in credit

[Icantthinkofaname]

still having lots of problems, cant get new buildings to appear despite trying everything on this list. :mad: also get error files when doing sabotage and such ... help!

[laiocfar]

There are some problems with sound. To play the game on win98, i remember that i must disable voices(Midi) because it will hang at tv news screen. That screen pop up when new buildings get available or when you perform sabotage operations.

Hope that it helps

[Unregistered34]

There are some problems with sound. To play the game on win98, i remember that i must disable voices(Midi) because it will hang at tv news screen. That screen pop up when new buildings get available or when you perform sabotage operations.

Hope that it helps

HELPPP

[Mighty Midget]

HELPPP

Please, don't just post "helppp" like that. Even with a quotation, we have no chance whatsoever to figure out what the problem is, why you want help.

Do yourself a favour and post why you need help. Any info is valuable, such as error messages, exactly how you went about to try to run the game, anything you can think of that will enable us to help you.

[Unregistered457]

there: http://www.zix.co.il/images/z-1340464196.gif
how i can to solve this??

[Unregistered5443]

there: http://www.zix.co.il/images/z-1340464196.gif
how i can to solve this??

helpp mee

[dosraider]

helpp mee
Runs perfect without any glitch in dosbox 0.73+W3.X

A complete howto set W3.x up in dosbox:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405

[RSchlapp2]

I start off every game with 4,000,000 in debt.

Anyway to fix that?

If you want a cheat to give you 4 billion dollars then press Ctr+Shift+Alt+G

[OuterSpaceBuddy]

To make the game experience better, you should:

- Edit FILENAME.DAT in DATA folder. mick.tripp has explained very clearly.
- Go to Options in the game, then turn off Speech sound before playing. Also, in News section in Options, turn off Sabotage & New Properties. This will help reduce duplicate pop-ups.

I also have met "MCI error", but you can prevent it from happening by turning off Speech.

Try & you'll feel more satisfied.

P.S: Sorry for my English. I'm from Southeast Asia.

[Thomasfromgermany]

To make the game experience better, you should:

I also have met "MCI error", but you can prevent it from happening by turning off Speech.



Hello,

i found another solution for the mci-problem. There is a plattform to talk about games, but it is in german (because i am from germany). There is one patch postet for both problems:
this is the page: http://www.spieleforum.de/thema/71628-4.html
and this is the patch, which is in english: http://www.spieleforum.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=69797&d=1165953328

You just have to install Java Runtime Environment (JRE) before - if it isn't.

The problem with the mci is that there are soundfiles which you and also the programm can't start. The consequence at my pc was that new bulidings where announced but i couldn't find them afterwards. So the patch changes this soundfiles with a running 0-byte-soundfile (if you want to change the files on your own, you can find them in the directories "Sprach1", "Sprache2", "Sprache3" - if you try to start them, the media-player will return an error message)

Perheps, that this patch doesnt get lost, somebody should upload it to this plattform?

And now the obligatory "sorry for my english, i am from..."

[Thomasfromgermany]

if you start the patch (the jar-file) the programm asks you to browse the holiday-island-folder. You have choose the holiday.exe - now - the programm knows also the folder.

[Thomasfromgermany]

if you start the patch (the jar-file) the programm asks you to browse the holiday-island-folder. You have choose the holiday.exe - now - the programm knows also the folder.

i should explain how you have to use the program:

1. unzip the 3 files
2. start holidayislandfix.jar
3. browse the holiday-island-directory (concretely browse the holiday.exe)
4. browse any soundfile for the change - the program delivers one - you can use it - it is very small
5. press the butten "replace 0byte wav files" to patch the mci-problem
6. press the button "fix graphic..." to patch the 8-letters-problem

once more the link to the patch:
http://www.spieleforum.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=69797&d=1165953328

[guest]

Does anyone have manual or guide? This game is a bit confusing with no help.

[OuterSpaceBuddy]

There is a plattform to talk about games, but it is in german (because i am from germany). There is one patch postet for both problems:
this is the page: http://www.spieleforum.de/thema/71628-4.html
and this is the patch, which is in english: http://www.spieleforum.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=69797&d=1165953328

And now the obligatory "sorry for my english, i am from..."

Thank you. I'll try it. Danke!

[Allinrep]

This will make it easier, I have attached the corrected version of the file.
Just replace the old one with this and you're ready to go.

I have just noticed that .DAT files are not allowed as attachments, so I've uploaded it as a .TXT file, you will need to open it in a text, editor save it as "all files" with "FILENAME.DAT" as the filename.


You problably don't read this forum anymore but I just have to say thank you! I have the original game on cd (my first pcgame btw haha) But since I got my self a new computer about a year ago it hasn't work and I'm blonde when it comes to fixing problem with games. But you saved my childhoods best game! =)
So happy happy happy happy happy =) =) =) =) =) =)

[firehawk455]

I can't get the game to load under windows xp. Can you tell me how to run it under windws xp please.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Try using VDMSound to run it.

[denim]

Try using VDMSound to run it.
Hey Hi to everybody. been wandering around over the internet for my favorite oldie pc game HOLIDAY ISLAND which i used to play back in 1999 alot. day in and day out sittin on the pc making millions of money. So i lost the cd in 2000 and ever since i missed this game until june 2005, i got it from much of the sites similar to this one like abandongames etc etc. But here we are that same news error that wouldnt let neither me nor you people play with your heart without any sort of interruption. So any one of you having a fix to this news and auctions problem in the game or havent yet figured anything out??? thanks.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Um, use DOSBox?

[denim]

Um, use DOSBox?
Thanks friend and i got this game completely fixed without having to disable NEWS OPTION and music or sound options. Its really working no problems, all buildings are comin in and auctions working great too. The surf competition also working great without news coming again and again like its being stuck. so its completely fixed. Anybody wants it i can help.

[denim]

Um, use DOSBox?
No dosbox wouldnt run this game, coz i remember back in 1999 on my windows95 pentium 1 system, if i tried to play this game through dos it always said that this program requires MS WINDOWS. and so is happening with the dosbox. I know the fix to this game. a bit lenghty not that much, but could take nearly 5 mins... Anyone interested ???

[dosraider]

Um, use DOSBox?
No dosbox wouldnt run this game, coz i remember back in 1999 on my windows95 pentium 1 system, if i tried to play this game through dos it always said that this program requires MS WINDOWS. and so is happening with the dosbox.
It runs in dosbox/W3.x
Runs perfect without any glitch in dosbox 0.73+W3.X

A complete howto set W3.x up in dosbox:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405
Same goes for dosbox0.74/W3.x

[denim]

It runs in dosbox/W3.x

Same goes for dosbox0.74/W3.x

How can we run it on the dosbox? any suggestions? thanks

[Евгений]

How can we run it on the dosbox? any suggestions? thanks
mount c: d:\/
c:/
cd directory with your game/
exe-file/done

[dosraider]

How can we run it on the dosbox? any suggestions? thanksYou're pulling my leg or what????

Runs perfect without any glitch in dosbox 0.73+W3.X

A complete howto set W3.x up in dosbox:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405


Ahwell, as I have some free time:
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0196/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_19.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0196/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_19) <- click on pics

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0715/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_35.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0715/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_35)

http://j.imagehost.org/t/0617/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_56.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0617/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_56)

http://j.imagehost.org/t/0422/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_55_16.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0422/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_55_16)

http://i.imagehost.org/t/0322/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_57_13.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0322/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_57_13)

Advisable is:
Get the CD image
Allow VfW (video for windows) to install in dosbox/W3.X
All works fine, intro/outro movies, sounds/music, news, etcetera etcetera... blah blah blah.

[Edit]
mount c: d:\/
c:/
cd directory with your game/
exe-file/done
XD
Yeah sure Евгений, whatever and whatnot, except it's a windows game....

[denim]

You're pulling my leg or what????


Ahwell, as I have some free time:
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0196/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_19.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0196/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_19) <- click on pics

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0715/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_35.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0715/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_35)

http://j.imagehost.org/t/0617/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_56.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0617/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_54_56)

http://j.imagehost.org/t/0422/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_55_16.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0422/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_55_16)

http://i.imagehost.org/t/0322/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_57_13.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0322/iviewcapture_date_07_06_2010_time_21_57_13)

Advisable is:
Get the CD image
Allow VfW (video for windows) to install in dosbox/W3.X
All works fine, intro/outro movies, sounds/music, news, etcetera etcetera... blah blah blah.

[Edit]

XD
Yeah sure Евгений, whatever and whatnot, except it's a windows game....
Not irritating you my friend. i mean i am really asking. now as i have installed win3.11 on dosbox and did also the sound blaster. problem is with the vga. currently running at ET4000 640x480 16 colors. cant run holiday island. black screen with some german error in it. and i got the cd image although its in german. i also have fixed this version of the game which other sites are providing like 5 Megabytes of zipped holiday island. you know what i mean. but i wanted to run it in dosbox and on win3.11 and also love to install windows 95 on the dosbox and then trying the holiday island game on it.....So what's the solution for my vga currently in dosbox for win3.11...thanks....

[dosraider]

Run setup again from the dosprompt ( windows dir) and select:
http://h.imagehost.org/t/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12) <- click

Of course you will need the S3 drivers from that vogon link.

That or 1024x768.... what you want.

[denim]

Run setup again from the dosprompt ( windows dir) and select:
http://h.imagehost.org/t/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12) <- click

Of course you will need the S3 drivers from that vogon link.

That or 1024x768.... what you want.

i am tryin lately but no response. always windows cannot support this mode. or at some other drivers win3.11 hangs...oh yes.....the links arent working at the vogon site by the way......tell me in detail if there's some more tweaking inside the configuration file of the dosbox.......

[dosraider]

You change the setup options in dos? NOT whilst in Win3, W3 never liked that, even in the ol'days.
Also read the 'troubleshooting' section in the Vogon topic, it's described what to do if you run into problems as you have now.

Dosbox 0.74 is running on the default conf file, only added the automount for my w3 virtual drive and path settings under [autoexec]
(I don't use the same virtual C for Dosgames and W3)
To load the win3 conf I created a new dosbox shortcut, duplicated the dosbox conf to win.conf and pointed dosbox to the according Win3 conf file.
Something like this:
D:\Dosbox\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe -conf d:\dosbox\dosbox-0.74\win.conf

You will find the S3 drivers in the second post of that vogon topic (Dosfreak's post), I used 'S3 Trio/64 v1.41B5 (S3 Vision 64 or Vision864) ' from gulikoza, link works fine.

[The Fifth Horseman]

i am tryin lately but no response. always windows cannot support this mode. or at some other drivers win3.11 hangs...oh yes.....the links arent working at the vogon site by the way......tell me in detail if there's some more tweaking inside the configuration file of the dosbox.......
It supports this mode with the right drivers.

[dosraider]

...urrently running at ET4000 640x480 16 colors. cant run holiday island. black screen with some german error in it. and i got the cd image although its in german. ....
A propos, there is a readme file in the holiday folder:
In order to run, Holiday Island must have a graphics driver
which supports a minimum of 256 colours. Check further details
in either your graphics card's manual or in the next section.
Holiday Island runs under Windows in all resolutions with at
least 640x480 pixels.
We recommend that the game is first started at 800x600
supporting 256 colours.
640x480 16 colors won't work.

[denim]

You change the setup options in dos? NOT whilst in Win3, W3 never liked that, even in the ol'days.
Also read the 'troubleshooting' section in the Vogon topic, it's described what to do if you run into problems as you have now.

Dosbox 0.74 is running on the default conf file, only added the automount for my w3 virtual drive and path settings under [autoexec]
(I don't use the same virtual C for Dosgames and W3)
To load the win3 conf I created a new dosbox shortcut, duplicated the dosbox conf to win.conf and pointed dosbox to the according Win3 conf file.
Something like this:
D:\Dosbox\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe -conf d:\dosbox\dosbox-0.74\win.conf

You will find the S3 drivers in the second post of that vogon topic (Dosfreak's post), I used 'S3 Trio/64 v1.41B5 (S3 Vision 64 or Vision864) ' from gulikoza, link works fine.
I have mostly tried through DOS and typing in \windows\setup.exe. i tried most of the modes like et4000 640x480 256 and 800x600 and also 1024x768. none of them is working. windows cant support. or at some point windows gets halted. i think my dosbox is not supporting the drivers. something's is faulting the drivers process......

[denim]

A propos, there is a readme file in the holiday folder:

640x480 16 colors won't work.


That's what i am saying. i have tried but drivers aren't working. that's why i am running currently at 640x480 16 colors mode. besides this mode non other mode is running..... Here are my specs...
DOSBOX v0.73
windows 3.11
got some s3 drivers, et4000 drivers, paradyse display drivers.
Although sound blaster is working great.......
i setup my dosbox and windows 3.11 installation through this link...
http://www.classicdosgames.com/tutorials/advanceddosbox.html

[dosraider]

i setup my dosbox and windows 3.11 installation through this link...
http://www.classicdosgames.com/tutorials/advanceddosbox.html
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ??????
I told you to use this: http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405
Also:
You change the setup options in dos? NOT whilst in Win3, W3 never liked that, even in the ol'days.
Also read the 'troubleshooting' section in the Vogon topic, it's described what to do if you run into problems as you have now.
NEVER change the screen setup whilst in W3, believe me, even on 'real hardware' it causes disasters, do it from the dosprompt, NEVER in W3, we had enough crashes in the ol'days.

Ah well, know what, I give up on you, if you even can't follow some simple instructions ... bye bye.

[Edit]
You have a PM ......

[denim]

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ??????
I told you to use this: http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405
Also:

NEVER change the screen setup whilst in W3, believe me, even on 'real hardware' it causes disasters, do it from the dosprompt, NEVER in W3, we had enough crashes in the ol'days.

Ah well, know what, I give up on you, if you even can't follow some simple instructions ... bye bye.

[Edit]
You have a PM ......
Oh sorrry i forgot i used the vogon's post for windows installation but i used that RGB link for sound installation and then for the video card. everything is running fine and why are you gettin angry friend...??? by the way i installed the s3 driver at 640x480 with 256 colors. now its working and holiday island is also running now. i installed it with my german version of the game. i installed it. and its entirely in german. its running good now. any ideas for more higher screen resolutions like 800x600 with 256 colors? will they work? thanks..........

[dosraider]

any ideas for more higher screen resolutions like 800x600 with 256 colors? will they work? thanks..........
You don't like my posts? Are they written in Chinese or so ...?
[ECHO MODE]
Run setup again from the dosprompt ( windows dir) and select:
http://h.imagehost.org/t/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0728/iviewcapture_date_08_06_2010_time_00_16_12) <- click

Of course you will need the S3 drivers from that vogon link.

That or 1024x768.... what you want.
[/ECHO MODE]
As you seems to have a problem understanding some instructions let me repeat them once again:
Mount your virtual C
Get your prompt on C:
do a 'cd windows'
do 'setup'
choose the right screen mode
launch windows now
also:

[Edit]
You have a PM ......
Do you know where your PMs are?

[denim]

You don't like my posts? Are they written in Chinese or so ...?

As you seems to have a problem understanding some instructions let me repeat them once again:
Mount your virtual C
Get your prompt on C:
do a 'cd windows'
do 'setup'
choose the right screen mode
launch windows now
also:

Do you know where your PMs are?
what are pms???????
and i know that step of running setup from dos....dont worry i do it from dos.........

[denim]

You don't like my posts? Are they written in Chinese or so ...?

As you seems to have a problem understanding some instructions let me repeat them once again:
Mount your virtual C
Get your prompt on C:
do a 'cd windows'
do 'setup'
choose the right screen mode
launch windows now
also:

Do you know where your PMs are?
what i am asking is will 800x600 with 256 colors work on my dosbox win3.11?????

[dosraider]

what are pms???????
and i know that step of running setup from dos....dont worry i do it from dos.........
Private Messages, look top/right forum
what i am asking is will 800x600 with 256 colors work on my dosbox win3.11?????
Try, it won't bite you ....

[denim]

Private Messages, look top/right forum

Try, it won't bite you ....

ok ...yes i installed the s3 864 1.41B5 800x600 256 colors Large Fonts. its working now......thanks for all of you people....especially you dosraider.....
now will it also work on 1024x768 256 colors?......

[dosraider]

ok ...yes i installed the s3 864 1.41B5 800x600 256 colors Large Fonts. its working now......thanks for all of you people....especially you dosraider.....
You're welcome. :)

now will it also work on 1024x768 256 colors?......
Try, it won't bite you ....
:smile2:
BTW, if you got it all working swell, now it's time to backup the virtual C where you installed W3, so if you completely screwup something it's simply a matter of copying the backup to get a working W3 again.

[denim]

It supports this mode with the right drivers.
yeah you're right... i got the right drivers now and its working....currently tried 640x480 with 64k large fonts and 800x600 with 64k colors large and small fonts..all modes working....but 1 thing is holiday island is lagging...not that much that u cant play it evenly....but sometimes when you;re loading a saved game or starting a new map, the time between generating the map or loading it, the music lags for a microsecond, and also mapping around in the game is not that much smooth than what i am having in XP MODE through windows 7.....any ideas???

[denim]

You're welcome. :)

thanks....be my friend...... how should i make a backup of all this????

:smile2:
BTW, if you got it all working swell, now it's time to backup the virtual C where you installed W3, so if you completely screwup something it's simply a matter of copying the backup to get a working W3 again.
thanks....be my friend...... how should i make a backup of all this????

[dosraider]

You're still on dosbox 0.73 I believe?
Update to 0.74
Kill everything that's running on the background and isn't really needed (I mean EVERYTHING)
If it still lags, you're on a crappy PC or your Windows is lame. XD

As last ressort:
-> kill the music ingame, can help sometimes.
-> change output= .... in dosbox conf file
-> read the dosbox tutos.

thanks....be my friend...... how should i make a backup of all this????
The fuc* .... ?
Copy the whole virtual C on a USB key? Burn the stuff on a CD? Copy to a 'backup' folder? And eat some vegies, that is always helpful.

[denim]

You're still on dosbox 0.73 I believe?
Update to 0.74
Kill everything that's running on the background and isn't really needed (I mean EVERYTHING)
If it still lags, you're on a crappy PC or your Windows is lame. XD

As last ressort:
-> kill the music ingame, can help sometimes.
-> change output= .... in dosbox conf file
-> read the dosbox tutos.


The fuc* .... ?
Copy the whole virtual C on a USB key? Burn the stuff on a CD? Copy to a 'backup' folder? And eat some vegies, that is always helpful.

system is core 2 quad q6600 @ 2.4GHz, 3GB DDR2 RAM, 512MB VGA...windows 7 ultimate....ok i'll try....downloading dosbox v0.74...

[dosraider]

Your system should be sufficient to run it nicely.
Do you mount the CD image with imgmount directly in dosbox?
(look at the pics I posted earlier, I'm kinda tired of repeating the same over and over again here....)

If it still lags your Win7 is probably completely lame/overloaded with crap.
BTW, you may have as many 'cores' as you want, dosbox will only use a single one. So keep your system clean and again: kill EVERYTHING that isn't needed and runs on the background.

[denim]

Your system should be sufficient to run it nicely.
Do you mount the CD image with imgmount directly in dosbox?
(look at the pics I posted earlier, I'm kinda tired of repeating the same over and over again here....)

If it still lags your Win7 is probably completely lame/overloaded with crap.
BTW, you may have as many 'cores' as you want, dosbox will only use a single one. So keep your system clean and again: kill EVERYTHING that isn't needed and runs on the background.

right now i am running that abandoned version of the game..i mean u know the version packed in zip files and these sites providing...u understand? coz the image version is in german....ok ill try that too......it is full game with videos and animations etc etc....let me check

[denim]

[QUOTE=dosraider;406755]Your system should be sufficient to run it nicely.
Do you mount the CD image with imgmount directly in dosbox?
(look at the pics I posted earlier, I'm kinda tired of repeating the same over and over again here....)


Got the english version through a sharing site...its working great. oh yes i am playing the game with the image mounted on my f cd-rom drive..without the image how can i play with movies and animations.....but still game's laggin...dont know why....maybe the video drivers are causing the lag in holiday island....???

[dosraider]

[Echo mode]
Do you mount the CD image with imgmount directly in dosbox?
[/Echo mode]
Post your mount line.

[denim]

Post your mount line.

its "imgmount f c:\holida~1.cue -t iso" and then it says MSCDEX installed.
Drive F is mounted as c:\doswin\games\holida~1.cue

What say you? and then in windows 3.11 drive F is loaded with this English Version of Holiday Island. And i can run it...but game sometimes lag....dont know why.....

[The Fifth Horseman]

What cycles are you running at?
... and if in the config file it's "auto", you have your cause.

[denim]

What cycles are you running at?
... and if in the config file it's "auto", you have your cause.

Yes its set to auto....lemme confirm first......yes cycles set to auto..and on the dosbox console screen...its saying "DOSBOX 0.74, CPU Speed 3000 Cycles, Frameskip 0, Programs: DOSBOX."

[dosraider]

Y.its saying "DOSBOX 0.74, CPU Speed 3000 Cycles, Frameskip 0, Programs: DOSBOX."
So you're running W3.x in dosbox on 3000 cycles ....? XD
[Echo mode]

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[/Echo mode]
Take a good look at the dosbox menu bar .....

[denim]

So you're running W3.x in dosbox on 3000 cycles ....? XD

Take a good look at the dosbox menu bar .....
Take a look at the image....it will explain.......
http://j.imagehost.org/t/0356/dosbox1.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0356/dosbox1)

My current video driver is S3 864 1.41B5 800x600 64K colors Large Fonts.
I changed to this driver hardly 30 mins ago...Before that i was running windows 3.11 on S3 864 1.41B5 800x600 32K colors Small Fonts.
seems like no problem with the drivers or may be problem with all of the listed drivers.

[denim]

So you're running W3.x in dosbox on 3000 cycles ....? XD


Take a good look at the dosbox menu bar .....

By the way is that your computer screen shot running holiday island, the one in your previous post??? how did u make the holiday island window appear bigger? or u just resized the jpg file for the post ??? thanks....

[The Fifth Horseman]

cycles=auto is supposed to use autodetection to run DOSBox at optimum speed for the games. It doesn't always quite manage that trick, though, and the result is that DOSBox tries to run at speeds your machine can't quite handle and consequently lags.
Set the cycles value in dosbox.conf to a fixed one - eg 18000 - and cycleup and cycledown to fixed values as well - 500 to 1000 is recommended.


By the way is that your computer screen shot running holiday island, the one in your previous post??? how did u make the holiday island window appear bigger? or u just resized the jpg file for the post ??? thanks....

Set output to overlay or ddraw.
Aspect to true.
Scaler to whatever you really want (some scalers will slightly improve the images' appearance, but it's at the cost of the processing power - "normal" will work just fine, "none" if you prefer no mucking around with the display)
windowresolution to whatever you want the window size to be. I ran quite a few games under windowed mode in 800x600 resolution no problem.

[dosraider]

By the way is that your computer screen shot running holiday island, the one in your previous post??? how did u make the holiday island window appear bigger? or u just resized the jpg file for the post ??? thanks....
No resizing whatsoever.
Windows 3.11 res is set to 800x600 256 colors but:
in dosbox conf 'windowresolution' is set to 1024x768 so dosbox stretches the 800x600 to a 1024x768 window.
There are some pro and contras using that method, for my personal taste it's ok, and it gives me max compatibility towards games, decide for yourself what you want.

[denim]

No resizing whatsoever.
Windows 3.11 res is set to 800x600 256 colors but:
in dosbox conf 'windowresolution' is set to 1024x768 so dosbox stretches the 800x600 to a 1024x768 window.
There are some pro and contras using that method, for my personal taste it's ok, and it gives me max compatibility towards games, decide for yourself what you want.

I set to cpu cycles to 18000 and cycle up and cycle down values to 500 and 1000 respectively. but there's no good change in the performance... Still lags the same way. I extended the dosbox memory in the configuration file from 16 to 32. But that doesnt help either.

[dosraider]

No resizing whatsoever.
Windows 3.11 res is set to 800x600 256 colors but:
in dosbox conf 'windowresolution' is set to 1024x768 so dosbox stretches the 800x600 to a 1024x768 window.
There are some pro and contras using that method, for my personal taste it's ok, and it gives me max compatibility towards games, decide for yourself what you want.
Take a look at the image....it will explain.......
http://j.imagehost.org/t/0356/dosbox1.jpg (http://j.imagehost.org/view/0356/dosbox1)

My current video driver is S3 864 1.41B5 800x600 64K colors Large Fonts.
I changed to this driver hardly 30 mins ago...Before that i was running windows 3.11 on S3 864 1.41B5 800x600 32K colors Small Fonts.
seems like no problem with the drivers or may be problem with all of the listed drivers.
Search the differences.
@800x600 256 colors the burden on the CPU is much lesser then 800x600 64K/32K colors.

in dosbox conf 'windowresolution' is set to 1024x768 so dosbox stretches the 800x600 to a 1024x768 window.
Great advantage: you get a 1024x768 window but W3 is running@800x600 256, much lesser impact on the CPU.
Notice: that is the windowresolution that dosbox will give you, NOT windowsresolution.
Whilst the aspect ratio stays on a normal 4:3, no distorted view.

Also: what's all that crap running on the background?

I get the feeling I (and others) keep repeating ourselfs over and over, you seems to have a hard time reading what we tell you.

[Unregistered5126478124]

now i've been hunting this game for ages, i read every post and guidelines, and still i can't manage to get this game working, i am slightly getting used to dosbox, but i have no idea how to set it all up with "ISO" ? etc etc etc, i'm using windows 7 and i have the CDrom for this game.

[Himmler]

if it's an iso file, you must mount it as a virtual drive with daemontools or alcohol120%(or smth like that)

[The Fifth Horseman]

Check DOSBox readme.
If you have the actual CD and it's working, you just have to mount the CD drive (same as mounting the root of any other drive in DOSBox, except you add -t cdrom ).
If you have a CD image (ISO, BIN and so on), you can mount it using the IMGMOUNT command. It works almost identical to the regular MOUNT command for CD drives, except you have to specify the location of the image file instead of specifying the drive to mount.

[Unregistered5126478124]

Check DOSBox readme.
If you have the actual CD and it's working, you just have to mount the CD drive (same as mounting the root of any other drive in DOSBox, except you add -t cdrom ).
If you have a CD image (ISO, BIN and so on), you can mount it using the IMGMOUNT command. It works almost identical to the regular MOUNT command for CD drives, except you have to specify the location of the image file instead of specifying the drive to mount.


i did try mounting it, however it doesn't launch the game, any command i gotta use to launch it ?

[Unregistered5126478124]

i did try mounting it, however it doesn't launch the game, any command i gotta use to launch it ?


alright, so now i got mounted my CDromdrive (E) to the D-drive on DOS.. i typed dir, to get a list of possible install options / setup stuff... i typed SETUP and i got a note saying "This game requires microsoft windows"... help :>

[Mighty Midget]

What I wonder about is: The game page says the game is compatible with XP and VDMSound but not DOSBox! Can someone tell me if this is an error or if it has to be run under XP/VDMSound, and if it can be run under Win7?

[dosraider]

Runs perfect without any glitch in dosbox 0.73+W3.X

A complete howto set W3.x up in dosbox:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405

Ahwell, as I have some free time:
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Advisable is:
Get the CD image
Allow VfW (video for windows) to install in dosbox/W3.X
All works fine, intro/outro movies, sounds/music, news, etcetera etcetera... blah blah blah.
alright, so now i got mounted my CDromdrive (E) to the D-drive on DOS.. i typed dir, to get a list of possible install options / setup stuff... i typed SETUP and i got a note saying "This game requires microsoft windows"... help :>
It's a Win3.x game, if you want to run it in dosbox you need to install Win3.x in dosbox first.

What I wonder about is: The game page says the game is compatible with XP and VDMSound but not DOSBox! Can someone tell me if this is an error or if it has to be run under XP/VDMSound, and if it can be run under Win7?
Do as you want, but personally I even won't try to run a Win3 or Win9x game on a modern OS.
The last thing I want is some ol'applic installing obsolete DLLs and whatever/whatnots on my new stuff.

[Mighty Midget]

Methinks the Win 3.x _detail_ there might be the answer ^^

[The Fifth Horseman]

i did try mounting it, however it doesn't launch the game, Standard behavior. DOS wasn't big on autoruns and plug-and-play, and neither is DOSBox.

alright, so now i got mounted my CDromdrive (E) to the D-drive on DOS.. i typed dir, to get a list of possible install options / setup stuff... i typed SETUP and i got a note saying "This game requires microsoft windows"... help :>
Try DOSBox set up with a copy of Windows 3.x . That seems to work just fine here.

[dosraider]

... i am slightly getting used to dosbox, but i have no idea how to set it all up with "ISO" ? etc etc etc, i'm using windows 7 and i have the CDrom for this game.
Also, if setting up dosbox 0.74/Win3.x or VPC MsDos/Win3 it too complicated, and that's for all those on Win7, 32 or 64, you can get VirtualXP mode for Win7 (free) from MS, this game runs in the Win7/VirtualXP mode soft.

Note: you don't need to set up XP, you can download a 'ready to run' XP VHD directly from MS.
More info if needed:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

However keep in mind, running W3.x games in WindowsXP mode on Win7 is matter of error and trial, many will run and many won't, after all, WindowsXP mode isn't developed with gaming in mind.
The best way to run W3.x on a modern OS is still the combination Dosbox 0.74/W3.x.

[Unregistered5126478124]

Also, if setting up dosbox 0.74/Win3.x or VPC MsDos/Win3 it too complicated, and that's for all those on Win7, 32 or 64, you can get VirtualXP mode for Win7 (free) from MS, this game runs in the Win7/VirtualXP mode soft.

Note: you don't need to set up XP, you can download a 'ready to run' XP VHD directly from MS.
More info if needed:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

However keep in mind, running W3.x games in WindowsXP mode on Win7 is matter of error and trial, many will run and many won't, after all, WindowsXP mode isn't developed with gaming in mind.
The best way to run W3.x on a modern OS is still the combination Dosbox 0.74/W3.x.

Now the question is where to get the W3.x as it doesn't seem to be freeware?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Um, Google?

[Unregistered5126478124]

Um, Google?

Good point >.>

[Skunk the Hunk]

Hi, guys.
Thanks for the help with the errors, the patch and the new file did the trick. Can now run on XP without any of those bugs.
But I'm still not able to save games, any hints (except installing windows in dosbox)?

[dosraider]

..... any hints (except installing windows in dosbox)?
http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=25293

[Skunk the Hunk]

http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=25293

Dude, that's sweet. A little tear of nostalgia just by seeing the old 3.11...
But even running the game via win3 doesn't help for saving games, though - so I'm still just about as far with the original problem.

[Skunk the Hunk]

But even running the game via win3 doesn't help for saving games, though - so I'm still just about as far with the original problem.

Jesus Christ lord allmighty. Sorry for my stupidity. Just have to press ENTER when saving...

Thanks for the tip regarding the win3, though - that'll solve some issues I have with other games!

[unodos]

Hi, guys. I've spent about 2 hours scouring forums and reading&following tutorials. This is my first time installing a DOS game. I've tried to install this game on both Boxer and dosbox but neither works. I don't know whether I've skipped some steps but I don't have much exp running codes and the such.

On both boxer and dosbox i get the same message that "this program requires microsoft windows"

What am I doing wrong? I'm operating on Mac os x 10.5 and using boxer (latest version)

First game I looked up when I found out about dos through a youtube video. Holiday Island was my childhood! Thanks in advance for your help!

[zirkoni]

...
On both boxer and dosbox i get the same message that "this program requires microsoft windows"
...
Obviously, the game requires Microsoft Windows :hihihi:

I guess your best option would be to install Windows 3.x in DOSBox and run the game there. Or you can just download the preconfigured Win3.11 here.
(http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showpost.php?p=409548&postcount=2)

[dosraider]

Hi, guys. I've spent about 2 hours scouring forums and reading&following tutorials. ......On both boxer and dosbox i get the same message that "this program requires microsoft windows" ...
What am I doing wrong?
You didn't read some post above yours:

http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=25293

And as you're on a Mac, yes, that also works on a Mac.
I repeat: it works.

[63M1N1]

hey all

could you please upload a version with setup.exe form win 3.1?

all the HI that i've downloaded (abandonia, CGN...) don't have a original setup.exe and i can't istall HI in win 3.1 dosbox

thank you!

63.

[The Fifth Horseman]

No need to install it. Just start that copy of Windows. Main -> File Manager . Navigate to holiday.exe and run it from there.

[63M1N1]

No need to install it. Just start that copy of Windows. Main -> File Manager . Navigate to holiday.exe and run it from there.

i guess if it was that easy i would figure it out by now :/

it's giving me the MCI error, although i've applied the patch and filename.dat. is there anything else i should have done?

could anyone upload a working version and end everyone's sufferings with trying to make the game work? it's just less than 40mb.

thank you in advance

[The Fifth Horseman]

it's giving me the MCI error, although i've applied the patch and filename.dat. is there anything else i should have done?According to some of the earlier posts in this thread, disabling ingame sound and/ or speech seemer to work for them.

[63M1N1]

According to some of the earlier posts in this thread, disabling ingame sound and/ or speech seemer to work for them.

hi!

is there a way to do it without accessing the game? i've tried deleting the sound and speech folders, didn't help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx4WHayG1WQ

[The Fifth Horseman]

Hm this is very odd.
Try this: http://depositfiles.com/files/nx6690jm5
It's a copy of the game and of the Windows 3 setup I've successfully ran it in.

[63M1N1]

Hm this is very odd.
Try this: http://depositfiles.com/files/nx6690jm5
It's a copy of the game and of the Windows 3 setup I've successfully ran it in.

thank you

freshly installed win u gave me (cool desktop pic :)), tried to play the game, same errors appeared.
tried fixing the filename.dat (removing spaces), didn't help.
tried with that .jar file the german guy provided, didn't help.
copied all file names from grafik folder to filename.dat (case sensitive), didn't help.
deleted folders with sounds... guess :p

but THEN i've deleted the folder with movies, and this is what happens


http://s14.postimage.org/l52bvszi9/hicd.jpg


i've checked all the .dat files, i've found - none containing names of the movies.

so... hmm... don't know what to do next (but to give up...)

[The Fifth Horseman]

Okay, I've finally managed to reproduce your problem.
The package I've posted already contains a solution, as I will explain in a moment.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8541/krnl386000.png


This appears when running Windows using Windows\win.exe . Am I correct that this is how you started both the copy you have installed yourself and the copy from my package ?

That merely starts the GUI, without loading the sound drivers. I've included a file named windows.bat , which you need to run to start Windows with the proper driver complement.

[dosraider]

so... hmm... don't know what to do next (but to give up...)
Seems you screw up big somewhere.
Downloaded Fifth's file, unzipped with 7zip on my dosbox virtual C: , ran dosbox, input windows, select 'main', select ' file manager', browse to holiday dir, double click on holiday.exe et voila, runs as a charm.

So yeah, maybe give your dosbox version, mount lines and inputs, and what you use to unzip the files, do you have the needed subdirs...???
With more info someone must be able to figure out where you go wrong.

Once again: Fifth's file is 100% working.

To be complete, this is the dir structure you need, yes, all of them:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/2492a6182506324
Must all be in your dosbox virtual C folder root.

[Edit]Seems Fifth is a faster typist than I am.......

[yoga]

[quote=Skunk the Hunk;424578]Jesus Christ lord allmighty. Sorry for my stupidity. Just have to press ENTER when saving...


:smile2:
Ha ha ha
Great!!

:OK:

Do not worry I did the same or similar mistakes also...
...and every human.

Enjoy!!!

:headslap:

[63M1N1]

windows.bat


it worked! :)

thank you so much!

[aliezzedine1]

Hello everyone, I downloaded Holiday Island last night and I used the infinite credit cheat which would give you 4 billion dollars in credit (ctrl+shift+alt+g). Anyway, I built this super island with tens of hotels and hundreds of luxury housing installments and a very sophisticated communications network. I sat and waited for construction to be completed, I've been waiting two days now and the date inside the game has not changed. April 29. It seems it is stuck there and it will not budge? Is this normal? Does the game speed up sometime later? What should I do ?

[denim]

Hello everyone, I downloaded Holiday Island last night and I used the infinite credit cheat which would give you 4 billion dollars in credit (ctrl+shift+alt+g). Anyway, I built this super island with tens of hotels and hundreds of luxury housing installments and a very sophisticated communications network. I sat and waited for construction to be completed, I've been waiting two days now and the date inside the game has not changed. April 29. It seems it is stuck there and it will not budge? Is this normal? Does the game speed up sometime later? What should I do ?


Hi....check in the Game Options. There is a game speed bar to increase/decrease game speed. That should do the job!

[Lovetohack]

I was searching the internet for this game 64-bit version and came up with this link:

http://www.boerse.bz/boerse/spiele-angebote/pc-spiele/1386287-holiday-island-addon-pc-win7-64bit-ready-energizer.html

It's in German btw.

I couldn't access the download link at all. Can someone check if the game really do work on 64-bit w7? And if it is possible, can someone upload the file here?

[doyo]

Wow! Some people are talking about one of my favs! Holiday Island xD

It's a pity, that the game ends after you've played (round about) 50 years. If someone has an idea to continue playing the game - this would be awesome!

:D

[Unregistered6767676]

still having lots of problems, cant get new buildings to appear despite trying everything on this list. :mad: also get error files when doing sabotage and such ... help!
i can't remember in which scenario the new buildings and atractions appear..can you help me?

[Valper]

Hi, I downloaded the game but doesn't work on W7.

I tried use DOSbox, but when i mount the game and launch "holiday.exe", it tell me "This program is a Windows 16-bit executable."

I don't understand, DOSbox is a program for simulate a 16 bit, no ??

So it's me doing it wrong ?

[The Fifth Horseman]

I don't understand, DOSbox is a program for simulate a 16 bit, no ??

So it's me doing it wrong ?
DOS is not Windows.
DOSBox only provides a DOS environment, this game needs a 16-bit Windows environment.

The good news is, it's possible to run a 16-bit version of Windows inside DOSBox - see this thread: http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=27770

[Valper]

The good news is, it's possible to run a 16-bit version of Windows inside DOSBox - see this thread: http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=27770[/QUOTE]

I tried to follow your guide with NC (and the game Dolls). It's working.
But with Holiday Island, always same error.

I put W3 in C:\oldgames.

I must install W3 with DOSBox or just unpack it in the folder "oldgames" ?

And if i need install W3 by DOS, how ?
When i launch "windows.dat" with NC, i'm on desktop like : http://zupimages.net/up/14/47/z6f9.png
And DOSBox say : http://www.zupimages.net/up/14/47/15uy.png

Huuuu i'm lost

THX for taking the time for help me (and sorry for my english and my "bad level" computer)

[Valper]

Okayyy it's working !

(sorry for double post but i can't delete it :o )

I put the Holiday's game, in the W3's folder.
Launch W3 with DOSBox and launch Holiday there !

Thank You so much for your help and your work (guide) !

Have a nice day,

Bye :)

[supertrini]

Looks cool..I assume this is only in German?