Delta Force (series)

[Mighty Midget]

I remembered a game my nephew had years ago. It was one of the first Delta Force games. I remember it was pretty decent at the time but now I wonder: Would it be worth it to get one of the D.F. games? I prefer varied missions where you are the master, not games where you are on a ride trying to hang on. As an example: I saw D.F. Black Hawk Down and I hated that chopper ride where you basically just had to fire at anything that moved while praying to god the pilot knew what he was doing. In contrast, I love Hitman CN 47 for the exact opposite: There it's entirely up to you where, when or if to strike.
The A.I. should be good, but it's not really a must. I can enjoy killing idiots just as much as killing elite forces.
Graphics wise: The screenies of the first D.F. wasn't too bad. Of vourse, in FPSs graphics do add a touch, but I don't mind the graphics of the first D.F.

My PC specs (just for the record): Pentium 2.8 GHz dual core, 2GB RAM, GeForce 7500LE (sucks), XP/Vista

Any of the D.F. games you want to recommend based on these preferences and specs?

[Blood-Pigggy]

Delta Force 2 is my favorite.

And yes, Black Hawk Down is far different from the others, it's more of a generic war shooter.
In relation to freedom in your objectives, Delta Force (the first two) it's pretty flexible, just don't expect Operation Flashpoint.

There's a lot of extraction missions, stealth, firefights, and long distance gun fighting.
The graphics may not look that bad in screens, but those are usually compressed and the pixels don't stick out as bad. They're voxel graphics, so if you're picky about a game's looks in relation to what came out at the time, it's pretty bad. You can pretty much run any of them with those specs dude.

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention Delta Force: Xtreme STAY AWAY FROM IT, the revisions it makes to the game isn't really all that necessary and only serves to water it down (it's a remake of the original).

[Mighty Midget]

Nice! Thanks, BP :ok: I'll check it out. About the screenies, I know, but they will do the job well enough.

[Blood-Pigggy]

Just make sure you saw my edit about Delta Force: Xtreme.

[Mighty Midget]

Hmmm... Seems the D.F.2 won't run at all in XP (ISO in Daemon Tools/PowerISO), only in my WIn98 Virtual PC, but there the speed is atrociously slow and the game is completly unplayable.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Seems Daemon Tools didn't like this ISO and that it messed it up for PowerISO as well. I re-booted and started up PowerISO and got the installation working, but XP still doesn't like this game.

2nd EDIT: Ok, I got it to work under XP, just don't ask me how. Nice game, and I remember it was the very same my nephew had.

3rd EDIT: I seem to remember, however, that you could manipulate the teams, either by orders or by setting waypoints and such. I haven't found any of that.

[Blood-Pigggy]

Try downloading the manual.
http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.420

[Beltona]

Ah yes i remember delta force2 with it's totally different polygons graphics. I thought it was pretty good only the A.I. sometimes isn't very smart. If you are sniping people away they would start running blindly around and not seeking any cover. From there on it was shooting them down one after the other.

[gregor]

i made an awesome campaign for DF2 playing as Spetsnaz. it had it all. sniping missions, helicopters, air insertion, "random" artilery strikes, boatrides, stealth (you have to love that grass) etc, etc. then one day i though i already had it on CD so i deleted it. later on i found out i actually didn't put it on CD yet. :wallbash:

it's actually amazing what you can do with that engine and how simple it is. they even managed to simulate tank fire there...

anyway yeah deltaforce is preety much rambolike straightforward shooter. However there is a patch available that turns the game into Co-op. to play with your friends and family. and another thing is that there are custom made maps available which allow a bit more movement. the whole i dea of CQB in those shanty towns was good but execution is bad. i mean why do i need to stay on the misison else game over. howabout if i climb on that hill to have a better look of the enemy ?!?! bah... nice graphics though only you are restricted too much in the way you do the mission.

anyway as i see the whole series moved into large scale online "team" combat.

[Mighty Midget]

Ok, after failing and failing and keeping on failing this rescue mission, I looked up to a walkthtough. The secret: Do NOT let your fellow commandos (who are running like possessed cheetas) get IN FRONT of you. You will then fail the mission. EXCUSE ME? What the bloody hell is that all about? What's next? Follow the invisible path or you'll die? This is nothing short of unbelievable and I can honestly not for the life of me figure out what the programmers' idea was here. One BIG thumb down to DF2. :wallbash:

[gregor]

huh?! i do not recall any such mission with this specific problem. anyway i hate rescue missions in all games cause usually the person you should rescue is very dumb and has tendency to run into enemy fire.

anyway once you create your own mission you can easilly see why things are as they are. there are trigger areas and if you do not step into them then things do not happen. as a result for example convoy won't move until you step in certain place. so for official mission follow the waypoints. only a few can be made roaming arround free.

oh and the commando team that is with you is also triggered. so maybe if you do not trigger them they stay behind you, you can then clear the area and then trigger them.

btw is the mission "rescue a downed pilot"?

but if you make your own mission (which is very easy) you can do as you like.

despite getting help from your "team" DF2 is still best played alone. and the main missions are not really that connected.

huh?! i do not recall any such mission with this specific problem. anyway i hate rescue missions in all games cause usually the person you should rescue is very dumb and has tendency to run into enemy fire.

anyway once you create your own mission you can easilly see why things are as they are. there are trigger areas and if you do not step into them then things do not happen. as a result for example convoy won't move until you step in certain place. so for official mission follow the waypoints. only a few can be made roaming arround free.

oh and the commando team that is with you is also triggered. so maybe if you do not trigger them they stay behind you, you can then clear the area and then trigger them.

btw is the mission "rescue a downed pilot"?

but if you make your own mission (which is very easy) you can do as you like.

despite getting help from your "team" DF2 is still best played alone. and the main missions are not really that connected.

[Beltona]

Yeah i remember something similar it is as the game wants you to run your legs off, I myself had a few times i kept on failing missions while i even wasn't beginning to shoot. After a while i got so frustated i just ran into the enemy's camp and shot everything up without dying:P. Then i got mission succesful.

[Mighty Midget]

Gregor: Yeah, it was the damne pilot alright. I then ordered the other teams to HP, and rescued the pilot before allowing the teams to carry on, only ALPHA had obviously mistaken the halt for a trip to a pub or something. He never cared about the mission anymore. Bastard didn't get to the chopper, and now he's walking home. Serves the bugger right.

The mission where you're supposed to kidnap an officer still annoys me though and I haven't been able to figure that one out. Also, now I'm on a stealth mission to rescue some unlucky souls. Problem is I'm spotted the moment I land and the order to panic is given right away. Seems to me the team behind this game never heard the word "tweaking" before, or "beta".

[gregor]

well units have thier vission. mostly it's 180 degrees circle or sometimes a quarter of circle (you can even make a full one giving them eyes on the back :-O).

i think i know which mission is that. you will have to go over the ridge in front of you.
drop and lie to the ground (you can glide a bit with parachute). the use binoculars to see if patrol can spot you. sneak past them when they are not looking your way or use silencer to pop them from the grass. then go over the ridge. and slowly move in to their base (clearing the area of soldiers). if this is the one i think it is some "friendlies" will join the fight and turn the attention away form you (still a hard mission). needs a lot of sneaking and use of silencer.

anyway i suggest not following waypoints all the time. sometimes this has to be done just so the events can be triggered, but sometimes it's better to use a totally different route.

[Hatsen]

Delta Force 2 was AWESOME! :D
And as the other says, you shall NOT follow the route :P

[Burger Meister]

I owned Delta Force 1 and Land Warrior, actually I still have the original boxes and cds w/serial keys. I liked delta force 1 alot, but I didn't really get a chance to play land warrior too much, all I know is that they were both fun. If you like tactical based games, may I suggest Operation Flashpoint. I would run on your pc and it is a really good tactical shooter based on a fictional conflict between USA and USSR during the cold war.

[Morrin]

If you are interested, Ghost Recon is one of the best wide space tactical shooters I've played. Rocks in coop!

I also played Operation Flashpoint so so so long ago and I loved that aswell. People prefer it a classic too!

[Burger Meister]

Thanks for mentioning that... ghost recon rocks too!