Worst Game Ever

[Rogue]

Master of Orion 3 was my biggest disappointment! :not_ok: :angry:

I liked first two games, but third one was just so strange and bad, that same day I uninstalled it. :ranting:

What are yours big disappointments? :blink:

[The Niles]

Destiny. Cost me 100 Gulden at the time and it was the worst Civ clone ever made as well as the worst game ever released. Never bought a game afterwords without reading a review before buying. Unfortunately even reviews are sometimes wrong as in the case of Master of Orion 3.

[Chef Boyardee]

My biggest disappointment with a game was definitely Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic. I couldn't play the game for literally more than 10 minutes because it was so ridiculously bad. I had such high hopes for it since the original Age of Wonders was one of the few games that I revere as a true classic. Oh well.

Worst game ever, though. I'll have to think about that.

[Dream]

Civilization 3 (though proper name should probably be Civilization 3: Milking the Cash Cow)

[Stroggy]

Pfff
if you want franchisemilking try C&C Generals.

Its not exactly a bad game as such (thats why I'm not saying its my worst game ever... still need to think about that) but its awefull as a C&C game... because its all but a C&C game

[Dream]

I mean look at it:

"Hey Buck we need some game, we ran out of money"

"Sure let's make a sequel, everybody's doing it! Why should we be creative when we can just act like every gaming company?"

"Ok humm...civilization?"

"Yeah great idea, we'll give it a new name, change a few graphics, include lots of corruption, little detail in AI levels add some bugs and voila it's done!"

"Buck, you're genius"

[Stroggy]

yes.
I think the worst game i ever played was Enter the Matrix.
And if that wasn't enough my brother was tricked into buying that piece of excrement aswell. So we both paid twice for the same bad game.

I tried to like it. I tried not to look at the glitches, I tried to think the movies made up for the lack of everything else.. didn't work.

Another game which is sadly also a very bad game was the last Tomb Raider.
I really liked it at the beginning, but after a while, after falling through a wall into a gaping black hole (talk about clipping errors) I decided the game wasn't that great.

But i think Enter the matrix is still the undefeated champion.
I wouldn't go so far as to say its the worst game ever made. its just the only game where I really felt robbed. I really didn't get my money's worth.

[gregor]

SIM Earth ------- it dissapointed me....

[VegaB0nd]

STROGGY has a point... i was hoping Enter the Matrix would be good, seeing that the movie was pretty good n all... it was depressing seeing the action look so bad for a movie that looked so good... there are still many other crappy games, but none i can name from the top of my head...

[FreeFreddy]

A game that disappointed? Hmm, let's think... Usually I buy games that I know are worth it too. Ah, I got it.

Wizardry 8 - now this is a game where I awaited continued fun from Wizardry 7. I didn't get as much as I hoped. I mean, ok, there were loads of new weapons, and monsters, and spells... And you could import some items from previous Wizardry to this one. There was only one thing that annoyed, but it was the most important one.
In Wizardry 7 you can avoid random battles by saving a game before and reload if you wasn't in the mood to fight. You can even let the number of enemies in the pre-determined battles vary that way. In Wizardry 8, this isn't possible. You can save the game so far away too, you meet the enemies, you reload the game, you get the same enemies. Every time! :wall:

At the beginning it's ok yet, but when you get further and your weapons are with luck only those from Wizardry 7 or even the provided cheap ones from this game's beginning, and the enemies have much life, and they become every time more, this can kick the patience out with time... And the enemies come pretty often. And you can't avoid those battles, only if you run and even then they might be still there when you come back. :ranting:
This annoyed me so much that I stopped playing the game when I reached the place where those weird squirrel people live high in the trees and near them the rattkins. It became boring then and I abandoned the game. And you know what? I didn't regret it. I never wanted to play it again. Sad, but better save the nerves for better made games... :rolleyes:

[Eagle of Fire]

Civilization III is better than the second part in every aspects. The original Civilization was better than Civ II, and I am very happy that they made Civilization III. The best so far.

The worse game I ever played yet (and I actually bought) is MoO III. Heroes of Might and Magic 4 is also extremely weak but not enough to beat MoO III.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 22 2004, 02:05 PM
Civilization III is better than the second part in every aspects. The original Civilization was better than Civ II, and I am very happy that they made Civilization III. The best so far.
This is very true. They fixed all annoying things from first two, and they made it look much better and more interesting. In the first one it was just matter to get couple of important wonders including Leonardo’s workshop and you beat the game. In this one battle system is much more realistic. (Yes, sometimes weaker can prevail!) :D

And most importantly, there is nice and easy to maintain building queue! :ok:

And MOO is really terrible, but I paid anyway only couple box (used ones). :whistle:

[FreeFreddy]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 22 2004, 08:05 PM
The original Civilization was better than Civ II, and I am very happy that they made Civilization III.
And I thought that Civilization II was better than Civilization... :eeeeeh:
What did Civilization 1 have that Civilization II didn't have then?

[aaberg]

I think Stroggy is right about, Enter the Matrix beeing a crappy game. I also used money on that piece of crap.

But it is not the worst game I have ever played. The worst game I have ever played is Might & Magic 9. :not_ok: Bad graphics, bad story, bad engine, BAD EVERY *dirty word* THING. And I used money on that one too. I'm not suprised 3DO went down, when they made that piece of sh*t.

[Havell]

Also from 3DO, let's not forget the Army Men series. I didn't waste any money on them but I have a friend who spent over ?200 on loads of the games, I still laugh at him LOL

[aaberg]

My littlebrother bought one of those games.. they whern't the best games ever made, no doubt about that.

[Fawfulhasfury]

The GC verion didn't have so many glitches, making it the better version of Enter the Matrix. I actually liked it, but not as well as the movies.

[Sebatianos]

My biggest disapointmens (besides Destini - since I think Picard said a mouthfull with that one) was Afterlife (not really a bad game - but I expected much more from LucasArts).

[Rogue]

I even forgot that I own that piece of sh*t?! :D

Install - try to play - don't know what I am doing - read the manual (usualy last solution) - try again - did not like it - uninstall - and put CD away... LOL (make a small minus for lucas arts...

[Eagle of Fire]

What did Civilization 1 have that Civilization II didn't have then?

It's the other way around, it's what CIV II had that Civilization did not have. Nothing was worth the time needed to complete CIV II while you could easily beat a game of Civilization in one afternoon.

CIV III is better, more complicated, and make it worth the time to take several days (if not weeks, at the huge world - I love to play that settings with all civilizations at once) to complete a game.

I personally consider CIV II as an experiment which leaded to the third part. But it's nowhere good enough to beat the first and nowhere as great as the third in any aspect.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 22 2004, 10:24 PM
What did Civilization 1 have that Civilization II didn't have then?

It's the other way around, it's what CIV II had that Civilization did not have. Nothing was worth the time needed to complete CIV II while you could easily beat a game of Civilization in one afternoon.

CIV III is better, more complicated, and make it worth the time to take several days (if not weeks, at the huge world - I love to play that settings with all civilizations at once) to complete a game.

I personally consider CIV II as an experiment which leaded to the third part. But it's nowhere good enough to beat the first and nowhere as great as the third in any aspect.
Maybe not - but Civ II is still the best Civ in my opinion!

[Rogue]

I would not say (I misunderstood the first post) that civ 2 is not better then civ1.

They did a lot with civ2 (same as they did later with civ3). Units, cities and all new look, and nothing beats the wonder movies in the second part (You got filling you really accomplished something).

Gold version (available on this site) had also multiplayer, and if you check civfanatics site, you'll see why civ 2 was much better then civ 1. Custom scenarios and all different mods, custom units, etc.…

I would say that every new civ game was better then prior game, and I hope that atari will not screw this up, like it did on couple of other games.

[Unknown Hero]

And I thought that Civilization II was better than Civilization... icon_dubious.gif
What did Civilization 1 have that Civilization II didn't have then?
Haven't you played all three games? Or you don't have your own opinion. :sneaky:

My greatest dissapointment was Medal Of Honor: Allied behindault in singleplayer!!!!

Here are few weaknesses of this game (I played on the highest difficulty):
- you can't kill a dog with single shot of shot-gun
- enemy soldiers show up from nowhere
- when a sniperist is shoting at you, he will hit you if you turn your back to him, but if you don't and still strafeing, there is a big chance he will miss you (on later levels snipers hit almost every time)
- if you come closer to enemy soldier (from the back of course), and keep moving around him, he can't hit you!

Instead of playing MOH:AA, play Call of Duty: United Offensive! Awesome game!!!! :ok:

Also I was disapointed with Warcraft III (you are killing a single pebehindant ten minutes).

I like Army men! I saw my friend playing, but I never played it!

@Havell
You can't judge a game that you haven't playe yet! Don't forget it! I disliked Tony Hawk's pro skater, but when I once tried to play it I liked it! :ok:

[Havell]

I've all almost all of the Army Men games, the first one you play is fun for five minutes (At least it is if you didn't pay for it) and after that and all of the other games are shockingly poor.

[JJXB]

umm... i'd say enter the matrix was very bug-ridden (gfx especially) and that was with the patch (pc version). and if you want milking a cash cow, i'd say the sims franchise is the king of cash-cows. c&c generals is ok, just not as good as tiberian sun (i have yet to get hold of red alert 2) halo was a dissapointment on pc (gearbox did a crap conversion, which i was surprised with considering the quality of HL: opposing force) but the worst game i have played is fallout tactics (a bit too much deviation from the fallout universe - especially as you could have deathclaws and mutants in your squad)

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by JJXB@Nov 23 2004, 12:57 AM
umm... i'd say enter the matrix was very bug-ridden (gfx especially) and that was with the patch (pc version). and if you want milking a cash cow, i'd say the sims franchise is the king of cash-cows. c&c generals is ok, just not as good as tiberian sun (i have yet to get hold of red alert 2) halo was a dissapointment on pc (gearbox did a crap conversion, which i was surprised with considering the quality of HL: opposing force) but the worst game i have played is fallout tactics (a bit too much deviation from the fallout universe - especially as you could have deathclaws and mutants in your squad)
First about Halo: I think the game isn't that bad! My friend finished it, and he says it's good! I also liked stunning graphics!

Secon Fallout tactics: Everyone is saying that this game is crap, so I didn't (and I wont) play it! About having mutants and deathclaws in your squad, you can have them even in fallout 2!

[JJXB]

what i mean about the mutant and deathclaw remarks is that the brotherhood of steel only accepted humans before tactics as far as i know. thats what i mean about the deviation from the fallout universe. i own halo on pc and its a good game no doubt, just gearbox didn't do that well in converting it (its not very well optimized on pc coding-wise)

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by JJXB@Nov 23 2004, 01:09 AM
what i mean about the mutant and deathclaw remarks is that the brotherhood of steel only accepted humans before tactics as far as i know. thats what i mean about the deviation from the fallout universe. i own halo on pc and its a good game no doubt, just gearbox didn't do that well in converting it (its not very well optimized on pc coding-wise)
Yeah, Brotherhood of Steel only accepted humans (and robots), but I meant that you can have in YOUR party deathclaws and mutants.

I think we are little bit :ot: !

[Rorture]

Civ3 isn't all that bad. It hs some great new features, such s the expanding territories that join together, making your empire seem as if it really is a state, not just a loose collection of cities.
But it did disappoint me on some levels, such as the world map. I enjoyed this feature in both civs because I used to get a kick out of conquering the 'real' world and imposing my own fundamentalist regime upon it. But in civ3, you get the world map, but there are no set locations for the tribes top start in. (I played the romans, and I began the game in alaska - wtf???!!!!)
But the worst game I have ever played would have to be icewind dale. I could believe that piece of tripe!! I was expecting a BG style game (since I ws a huge fan of that game), with an engrossing storyline, the ability to explore and find heaps of interesting encounters and an awesome combat system. All I got ws the latter, over and bloody over again. The game was linear as hell, and the storyline did not make any interesting jumps while I played it (I think the latest, before I ripped it out of the cd drive and threw it in the direction of one of my friends, whom hated it) was that an ancient evil is stirring again and threatens to take over the world. They could have just as easily said, 'Okay, yourt name is now frodo, take the ring to mount dhoom and cst it in the fire, or else, bitch', it would have made no god-dmn difference.
BG opened up a whole new world of possiblities for DandD games, offering an engine that could be used for countless campaigns in all the different worlds. Icewind Dale swalloed that possibility and farted it down the drain. (Lucky Planescape tournament and BG2 are still keeping the dream alive, when are they going to make a Dragonlance version of those games?)
I'd best stop now though, I copuld write a bible-sized book on how much this gae pissed me off (mainly because it cost a good twenty dollars that I could have spent on beer!)

[Morrin]

Hitman: Contracts was a quite disappointment. It lacked the great story that the first two had. It even lacked demos after some missions that was quite unacceptable.

[Sebatianos]

Oh, I also hope no-one of you ever plyed this little muck: HEARTS OF IRON!

[The Niles]

Originally posted by Rorture@Nov 23 2004, 05:09 AM
Civ3 isn't all that bad. It hs some great new features, such s the expanding territories that join together, making your empire seem as if it really is a state, not just a loose collection of cities.
The borders were a nice adition but tha should have been added in Civ2 and might have even been in Civ already. Comming in Civ3 is was too little too late.

Icewinddale was not Baldur's Gate I know. It had too much combat in it I agree but it is far from the worst game ever. The music is some of the best and the fact that they released a free expansion for it on the internet is awesome (even if you need to heart of winter expansion in order to play it).

[Iron_Scarecrow]

It's hard to pick a "worst game ever". But games that I have played and disliked are:
Diablo
Mafia
Hiden and Dangerous (willing to give it another go though)
Fellowship of the Ring (official game)
Age of Empires

These are just a couple off the top of my head. There are probably more.

[Rorture]

On icewind Dale: The music can be a great as it likes, but the game still sucked.

[The Niles]

Originally posted by Rorture@Nov 23 2004, 11:22 AM
On icewind Dale: The music can be a great as it likes, but the game still sucked.
There are many who disagreed, including me. In any case there is no way it is the worst game ever.

[Rorture]

It's like a sexy baywatch star. Gorgeous on the surface, yet shallow on the inside.

[bohor]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Nov 23 2004, 07:32 AM
Oh, I also hope no-one of you ever plyed this little muck: HEARTS OF IRON!
I have to dissagree with you... hearts of iron is not that bad game...

[Sebatianos]

Well I hated it at least (although I generally love strategy - WW2 related games - most of them are at least playable if not good - some are even great).

[Titan]

Now.. Heroes of Might and Magic 4 SUX! HUMONGOUSLY!

Seriously.. Removing level the double set of creatures for each dwelling was the first error..
Then the list continues..

Hear someone complained about the corruption in Civ3..
I think it's an improvement.. in civ2, you just expanded like crazy under monarchy, buildt temple everywhere, and the went to communism or democarcy, and corruption was solved.. Civ3 is harder.. just that..

[wormpaul]

:not_ok: Hmmm..

Worst game ever: Postal 2

That game just sux :not_ok:

[Yamcha]

It's definetely :sick: Heroes IV.This game sux.I'm waiting to see V

[wormpaul]

Indeed...

Hopefully it will be released ever...(and not like Duke Nukem Forever)

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Rorture@Nov 23 2004, 11:22 AM
On icewind Dale: The music can be a great as it likes, but the game still sucked.
I don't think it sucks... but I do think it was and still is overhyped.
After giving it a second try I still think most quests are shallow and boring.
There are a few good ones, but they don't make up for the rest.

The main story is dull and static. The rather large jumps in time after each episode made the world even more static.

I do hear there is a good multiplayer. But I was looking forward to an RPG, not a multiplayer game (what are they called... those games like everquest and such)

[JJXB]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 23 2004, 03:02 PM
:not_ok: Hmmm..

Worst game ever: Postal 2

That game just sux :not_ok:
i thought postal 2 was funny (nuthin like using a cat as a shotgun silencer and burning the marching band with petrol can and lighter :D) im warped, i know :D
but postal 2 had so much humor value in it, just some levels were damn hard! (the burning library in paticular)

[Caged]

I know it isn't a dos game, but my feelings must be known about Unreal II: The Awakening.

The gameplay kicked behind. Lots of nerve wracking action, but the ending completely blew! You, flying away in a pod, your crew dead. Just an awful way to end a game...sheesh

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 23 2004, 05:03 PM
Indeed...

Hopefully it will be released ever...(and not like Duke Nukem Forever)



DUKE NUKEM FOR(N)EVER!!! :roflol:

[wormpaul]

Duke Nukem Ever??

:roflol:

[Unknown Hero]

DUKE NUKEM?
:roflol:

[Eagle of Fire]

Duke?
:roflol:

[wormpaul]

Duck?? :roflol: :roflol:

This is getting stupid...or already was...but let's go back Ontopic :angel:

[Tom Henrik]

THANKS!

[wormpaul]

Now i Know a new WORSE GAME:

RISKY WOODS....

I was supposed to review it...but this game really sux.....totally no fun gameplay, lot of bugs and most of all: Frustrating trial&error gameplay :not_ok:

[Havell]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 23 2004, 10:29 AM
It's hard to pick a "worst game ever". But games that I have played and disliked are:
Diablo
Mafia
Age of Empires
I must disagree with these three, Diablo was as addictive as hell and groundbreaking in it's time, Mafia is just plain GOOD, the storyline and acting was impeccable and the gameplay was tense and exciting. Age Of Empires was the first game I ever bought and I was hooked for months.

[Eagle of Fire]

Well then I must disagree with you on your disagreement on Diablo and Age of Empire. ;)

[Ioncannon]

I have to disagree with diablo and Mafia. I loved Mafia, though that race mission was so hard I cried :cry:

[Fawfulhasfury]

All time worse game is without a doubt Curse of Enchantia. :tomato:

[Ioncannon]

getaway was bad game, not the worst but bad.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 23 2004, 03:02 PM
:not_ok: Hmmm..

Worst game ever: Postal 2

That game just sux :not_ok:
Are you crazy. I had a brilliant time playing that. Especially freaking out the elephants and making them trample everyone. And shoving the nozzle of the shotgun up the cats arse. And when you get kidnapped and dressed as a Gimp. LOL LOL LOL LOL

Brilliant.

Absolute best absolutly.

[evilded]

Worst game ever was Total Annihilation: Kingdoms...

The first game is Totally wicked, but the second was Total letdown

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Fawfulhasfury@Nov 23 2004, 11:55 PM
All time worse game is without a doubt Curse of Enchantia. :tomato:
I agree its a bad game, but I won't call it THE worst.

I also have to disagree with Diablo Mafia and Age of Empires.
I was hooked to Diablo and Age of Empires. I loved playing it together with friends, thinking out tactics in Age of Empires. Or fearing a boss in Diablo, only to find out it was a pushover.... and then to get flooded by minions.

Mafia was like being in a very good movie. The levels were fantastic. The graphics were amazing. The acting was all together very good.

[Eagle of Fire]

The problem with the (early) Age of Empire is that it was really the player with most priest who won. Bring everybody on your side and attack their city with their own units! Yay! :blink:

Red alert was also a bad game. Nothing new from the prequel (the original C&C, which was really a gem) and in multiplayer it was really the one who would manage to get the most tanks as soon as possible who would win... Now that's nice strategy! :rolleyes:

Diablo is nothing more than a Rogue like clone but with graphics. An average game, around 3 on 5.

[The Niles]

That's the trouble of all the C&C titles. After the origional not an ounce of game-play was added.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

About Diablo I'm not really into RPG's. I liked Dungeon Seige because you couldn't get lost or sidetracked. I liked KotOR because it was Star Wars. And they are the only two RPG's I have played through to the end. So Diablo wasn't really my thing. I tried really hard to get into BG2, but it was hard and I got sidetracked so many times, and I was drawn to cheats so I just had to give up in the end.

Mafia I didn't really like the gameplay. The graphics were good and the acting was also very good. I just didn't like playing it.

Age of Empires, well I enjoyed it for a week but then it just got boring, could never finish a game, just took too long.

Red Alert was the first RTS game I ever played, and I enjoyed it quite a lot.

And I really liked C&C Generals.

[Eagle of Fire]

About Diablo I'm not really into RPG's.

For the X time people, DIABLO IS NOT A FREAKING RPG! :ranting:


That's another rather successful attemp from game makers to confuse people and add genres to their games only to boost sales. :angry:


Picard: I agree. The original was really good tough. I remember playing it for a stupidly high amount of time, and it may be the game I played most with (closely followed by Xcom and MOO).

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 24 2004, 09:20 AM
For the X time people, DIABLO IS NOT A FREAKING RPG!* :ranting:



Who cares. I didn't like it that's all that matters.

Also didn't you say yourself that and RPG means to have your character improve by increasing your stats. Isn't that what you do in this game?


Found in the Dune thread under your name.
RPG are commonly refered as games in which you can make your character evolve with stats.

[Eagle of Fire]

To have a true RPG, you need to play the role of someone and go thru a story. However, even if there is hints of RPG in Diablo it's only for about 5% of the game. It is so little that you can't clame Diablo to be a RPG.

It's a Hack and Slash, Action packed, Dungeon Crawler game. But the ever incredibly intelligent game industry, seeing that it would be too long to say a genre (and that none of those were really popular) decided to say it was a RPG.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Doesn't Diablo have a story?
Don't you play the role of the character you choose?

[Razor2]

Red Alert was quite good, both 1 and 2.

The worst game ever was Moo3, it is still a mystery to me, how they could screw such a good concept, after Moo2 being so brilliant (the best game of genre ever).

By the way RR3 was also quite bad, mostly because of the technical bugs, was really happy I only payed 4 Euros for it.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Razor2@Nov 24 2004, 10:13 AM
Red Alert was quite good, both 1 and 2.

The worst game ever was Moo3, it is still a mystery to me, how they could screw such a good concept, after Moo2 being so brilliant (the best game of genre ever).


Wich game is MOO??

[Rorture]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 24 2004, 10:12 AM
Doesn't Diablo have a story?
Don't you play the role of the character you choose?
But you don't get to do much about the story. Just kill the bad-guys. That's not what Rpg's are about.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 24 2004, 10:28 AM
Wich game is MOO??
Mastor of Orion. Even I knew that.

But you don't get to do much about the story. Just kill the bad-guys. That's not what Rpg's are about.

Alright I'm convinced now. But thinking back now Dungeon Seige was sort of like that, just kill the monsters. Does that mean it isn't classed as RPG either?

[The Niles]

Master of Orion AKA MoO.

Great game great genre and MoO3 killed it.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 24 2004, 10:31 AM
Mastor of Orion. Even I knew that.


Doesnt suprise me at all..

I already thought you were really smart :Brain: :Brain:

[Rorture]

No, dungeon siege is a crppy diablo rip-off with jazzed up graphics

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 24 2004, 10:58 AM
Doesnt suprise me at all..

I already thought you were really smart :Brain: :Brain:
You're too kind Worm. But I'm not that smart.

But I liked Dungeon Seige.

[Morrin]

EA games mainly are goddamn boring, like Need For Speed series (except for the first one). They just suck!

[Unknown Hero]

I think they are good! Especially Underground 2, which is so real! And the graphics are just awesome!!!
Put all details to high, turn on everything available in options, go drive and turn on nitro! --- enjoy!

[wormpaul]

NFS Hot Pursuit was really great...

Had a great time with a friend of mine playing 1 the bad guy...and the other the cop :ok:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

All racing games suck.

[Eagle of Fire]

You definetly never played Stunts.

[The Settler]

I`m not sure what the worst game I ever played is, but one thing is for sure: ITS NOT CIV3!!! :wall: Why Civ 3 is even mentioned in this post is beyond my imagination.
Civ 3 is the best strategy game ever, no doubt about it. And if you don`t like strategy I can understand that the game is 2 slow, 2 massive, 2 long lasting and 2 much thinking for someone, but to put it in this post is to kick Sid Meier in his face!
:wall:

Come on SID!!! :kosta: Make Civ4, and we no it will be even better than the first 3 games :cheers:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 26 2004, 09:21 AM
You definetly never played Stunts.
Was that the motorbike game. I liked that one. And I liked Micro Machines. And some offroad one were you could pick up money bags. I guess my post was a little spontaneous due to all the crappy modern racing games.

[TheVoid]

Stunts is not a motorbike game. It's a great game where you are a stunt (with a car :sneaky: ) and have to go through different stunt toys such as loops and jumps. The great feature, apart from the graphics which where stunning at the time (3D cars), is the possibility of creating your own tracks. The opponents where also fun, each of them had his own personality, favourite tracks and weaknesses (Except for Skid Vicious! :ranting: ). Good, good game.

Racing games are great, expecially when you can play them with a steering wheel.

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 26 2004, 05:35 AM
All racing games suck.
try death rally or ignition

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Nah.

But whats that motorbike game that's like the offroad one but with motorbikes. I thought it was called stunts.

[The Niles]

I'76. Great game with lots of atmosphere. Too bad the sequal was so bad.

[FreeFreddy]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 26 2004, 06:35 AM
All racing games suck.
You should definately try out the game Re-Volt. I also don't like racing games that much, but this game is awesome. It's not a serious racing simulator or something, instead you race in the remote-steered toy cars in their tiny perspective of the world. And steering just with a keyboard is almost nothing to do - totally easy. ;)

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I have Re-volt. But I don't feel like playing it.

[wormpaul]

Why do you get it then>??

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Someone gave it to me.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by The Picard@Nov 26 2004, 03:43 PM
I'76. Great game with lots of atmosphere. Too bad the sequal was so bad.
Indeed....love the strange characters in the game :ok:

[Dream]

Originally posted by The Settler@Nov 26 2004, 11:11 AM
I`m not sure what the worst game I ever played is, but one thing is for sure: ITS NOT CIV3!!! :wall:* Why Civ 3 is even mentioned in this post is beyond my imagination.
Civ 3 is the best strategy game ever, no doubt about it. And if you don`t like strategy I can understand that the game is 2 slow, 2 massive, 2 long lasting and 2 much thinking for someone, but to put it in this post is to kick Sid Meier in his face!
:wall:

Come on SID!!!* :kosta:* Make Civ4, and we no it will be even better than the first 3 games* :cheers:


Did you ever played civ 1 or 2? Have you ever played say, Call to Power?


Civ. 3 has:

Dumb AI
Bugs, lot of them
Amount of corruption beyond belief, absolutely stupid.
Brings nothing new, (Mainly that!) it's clearly cash cow milking.
+You have to watch AI moves. I *dirty word* hate that, it just takes too long...
Small diversity in AI levels. Either too dumb or cheating.
And list could go on...

Best strategy game ever? Yeah right...how many strategy games have you played?

[Dream]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Nov 22 2004, 07:05 PM
Civilization III is better than the second part in every aspects. The original Civilization was better than Civ II, and I am very happy that they made Civilization III. The best so far.

The worse game I ever played yet (and I actually bought) is MoO III. Heroes of Might and Magic 4 is also extremely weak but not enough to beat MoO III.
Actually the game I liked most from these series was Call to Power. I buyed no. 2 and maybe is it just me but it looks like it's worster than no. 1 :crazy:

[punch999]

RED ALERT A BAD GAME!!!!!!!
i can agree with u that it had so little improvments from c&c but still it had so much tht C&c didnt, like tht hottie tanya

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by punch999@Nov 26 2004, 08:29 PM
RED ALERT A BAD GAME!!!!!!!
i can agree with u that it had so little improvments from c&c but still it had so much tht C&c didnt, like tht hottie tanya
Still had a lot of fun with this game....

Tiberian Sun was much more a Worse game!! (except from the in game movies...they got a nice actrice :sneaky: )

[Eagle of Fire]

Did you ever played civ 1 or 2? Have you ever played say, Call to Power?


Civ. 3 has:

1)Dumb AI
2)Bugs, lot of them
3)Amount of corruption beyond belief, absolutely stupid.
4)Brings nothing new, (Mainly that!) it's clearly cash cow milking.
5)+You have to watch AI moves. I *dirty word* hate that, it just takes too long...
6)Small diversity in AI levels. Either too dumb or cheating.
And list could go on...

Best strategy game ever? Yeah right...how many strategy games have you played?

First, I played all Civilization games and the first game I personnaly bought (around 14-15) was Colonization, which is a sequel to Civilization (but not really in the same way). I played Civilization and CIV III to the death and I own CIV II on my playstation. I know of what I am talking about and I experiemented all the games we are talking about here.

I can assure you that:

1) The AI is far from dumb at higher level (I always play at Regeant level because I don't like to have the computer "cheat" on me on the higest levels). The only noticable case of stupidity from the computer is when they start a war with obsolete units. However that's usually either because they are too far to reach you in time or because they did not get to war from a long time and never build new units. This is, up to a point. kind of realistic.
2) I never encountered a bug in CIV III. I would be glad that you can even tell me one.
3) The point of the corruption is that you don't own half of the planet and manage without a problem to get all your cities running top notch. And it is very realist. It also bring a very big dimention to the management part of the game. That's a big plus on my side.
4) If you can't manage to spot what is different in CIV III than you are plainly blind. Just the cultural border is such a big improvement, you just can't miss it. In a lot of my games I managed to grap cities (and sometime even almost entire civilizations) to my neighbors simply by concentrating on developing culture in the border cities first. No need to say that it often brought some wars along but that's surely not a bad point. Second to that, everything on that game is candy for the eye. I'm usually not keen on new graphics, but they managed to improve the isometric view even better than in CIV II. The whole world (maximum size) is also very huge. The games I prefer to play is on the huge map with all civilizations starting at point 0. I am pretty sure that you could not play 25 civilizations at once on CIV II. I could also continue but I hope you get the point.
5) You can turn the options off so you don't have to see your ennemy moves. But it would be clearly stupid. You would need to tell me how you wish to be able to counter an ennemy invasion without seeing them move first... I don't think I would be able to.
6) You can bet it wasn't better in the previous versions.


So I still say CIV III is superior in all aspect to CIV II. And that Civilization is still supperior to CIV II. I would not play CIV II if I could be playing the first one.

[TaloN]

Z:Steel Soldiers

I BLOODY LOVE the orginal Z (reminds self to make post for request) but this remake in 3d was awefull. lacked the catoon ness of Z, the hiliarity as your grunts blew each other to pieces. and above all, the tenseness!!

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 26 2004, 09:35 PM

Tiberian Sun was much more a Worse game!! (except from the in game movies...they got a nice actrice :sneaky: )
The movies are the only reason i played Tiberian Sun and TS:Firestorm.

[Unknown Hero]

As this thread is about to change the name into "Civilization - heaven or hell" I decided to open a new poll!
Take a look! (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=1640)
:ok:

[Danny252]

The worst game I've ever had is probably...(think think think think think)
Oh yeah
Stronghold:Crusader
All it was was Stronghold with new graphics and 8 new units with a few different names for the AI...

[punch999]

look one huge thing u say tiberian sun had good movies well ra2 had the complet oppisite bad fake russian accents,every thing about the movies where bad

[Rogue]

So I still say CIV III is superior in all aspect to CIV II. And that Civilization is still supperior to CIV II. I would not play CIV II if I could be playing the first one.

Eagle of Fire,
I agree with most you say about Civ3, but can't understand that you think civ 1 is better then civ2. In which way is better?

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by punch999@Nov 27 2004, 04:20 PM
look one huge thing u say tiberian sun had good movies well ra2 had the complet oppisite bad fake russian accents,every thing about the movies where bad
I agree RA2, like C&C Generals, isn't worth the title of C&C.

[cheesegrater]

In my opinion...

Worst games:

Fly!
Midtown Madness 2
FIFA 99
FIFA 2000
FIFA 2001
FIFA 2002
FIFA 2002 World Cup
FIFA 2003
FIFA 2004
EURO 2004
SWAT 2
Empire Earth
Mortal Combat Series
Destruction Derby Series
Need For Speed Underground Series
Diablo (I'm sorry I tried to play it because of all the hype and it was garbage - killing skeletons in dugeons = stupid)
Interstate 82

Games that make my blood boil:

Counterstrike
Runescape
Little Fighter
Any Ricer Game

I liked Red Alert and Red Alert 2. Nothing wrong with them in my opinion, excet the story in Red Alert 2 has kinda stupid - Romanov? Ugh. However, they did keep up the 2D tradition - I like to see that - I hate 3D strategy games. Yuri's Revenge was okay, I liked the new units, especially - Boris.

Also, I played Hearts of Iron. I never really gotten into the game, but the concept seemed pretty cool. It was very confusing and time consuming though.

The following games I liked in the NFS Series: NFS 1, NFS 2, NFS 3, and NFS 5. The rest was crap. I played NFS 2 the most because it was my first PC game. I liked all the cool cheats, and surprisingly there were hundreds add-on cars to NFS2!!! NFS 5 was the most well-done NFS game. It was also the most realistic, however at the same time it was arcade. It had a good mix between sim and arcade. The only bad thing is that if you don't like Porsche, there is no point. Also the hot pursuit mode could have been better. However, it's still my favorite of NFS.

NFS Underground is terrible. EA is merely exploiting human stupidity. Why the hell would you want to drive a Dodge Neon in a game??? Are you retarded?

Interstate 82 takes the cake for the worst sequel.

All FIFA games are an insult to Football (football as in soccer) fans. FIFA 98 Road To World Cup was the last decent FIFA game.

Thats all I can think of right now.

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by Anubis@Nov 27 2004, 06:10 PM
So I still say CIV III is superior in all aspect to CIV II. And that Civilization is still supperior to CIV II. I would not play CIV II if I could be playing the first one.

Eagle of Fire,
I agree with most you say about Civ3, but can't understand that you think civ 1 is better then civ2. In which way is better?
I open a new thread (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=1640) and you still post here!?!!? :not_ok:

[punch999]

what do u mean makes ur blood boil

[The Settler]

Did you ever played civ 1 or 2? Have you ever played say, Call to Power?


Civ. 3 has:

Dumb AI
Bugs, lot of them
Amount of corruption beyond belief, absolutely stupid.
Brings nothing new, (Mainly that!) it's clearly cash cow milking.
+You have to watch AI moves. I *dirty word* hate that, it just takes too long...
Small diversity in AI levels. Either too dumb or cheating.
And list could go on...

Best strategy game ever? Yeah right...how many strategy games have you played?

Ofcourse I`ve played Call of power.... liked a lot, but Civ3 is better. I`think I`ve played a big part og the good strategy games available, even tough there are many excellent ones, Civ III is superior to them all.

Wish there would be made an sequel to Colonization! :)

[Rogue]

We moved discussion about civ to other topic (comparing them all)

I really would like to hear about these bugs. I might not know for them as I got gold edition, which already got 1.27f update. So question would be if you have right updates?!

Also call to power was junky civilization which I did not like much. Nice trade route idea… Colonization is OK game, that I used to play a lot on Amiga.

[Maikel]

Manhunt. It just sucked, They stirred up the bandwagon with their gore to achieve a lot of press coverage, but in the end, the game downright sucked.

[Schabernakel-anbeter]

the worst game i played was "planer3"
20€ that was definetly to much.
the first part was quite good but the 3. really sucks

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by Maikel@Nov 29 2004, 02:53 PM
Manhunt. It just sucked, They stirred up the bandwagon with their gore to achieve a lot of press coverage, but in the end, the game downright sucked.
First I liked Manhunt, but as I moved further I realised what a crap that game is!

And it's really high violent and should be forbidden!

[N17R0]

I'm with everyone who is against RA2. That game drove me up the wall. And don't get me started on the expansion.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by N17R0@Nov 29 2004, 06:46 PM
I'm with everyone who is against RA2.* That game drove me up the wall.* And don't get me started on the expansion.
You like daggerfall and you dislike RA2?
Have a cookie :ok:

And it's really high violent and should be forbidden!
I don't think games should be forbidden. Not even that Lebanese game where you go into Israeli cities and start a shooting rampage.
People should be free to buy what they want and face the consequences.

Usually a game where the main pillar is controverse is a bad game.

[Unknown Hero]

I think people should have their freedom to buy what they want, but in this case I would make an exception!

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Unknown Hero@Nov 29 2004, 07:41 PM
I think people should have their freedom to buy what they want, but in this case I would make an exception!
Why?
I haven't played it myself (I'm not into that kind of games) but is it really that bad.

Know that I'm against censorship. Censorship only awekens intrest.

[punch999]

censoring somthing just gets more ppl to attemt to get hold of it however they can

[bjbrains2002]

Worst game ever has to be starship creator, the game was basically a sit and wait for your ship to do stuff, most boring game I have ever played.

[punch999]

yeh i hate slow games like that

[wormpaul]

Also a worse game:

Asterix - Operation Getafix"

That one just wont run at any pc :not_ok:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

How can you say its the worse if it doesn't run on your computer. :blink:

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 30 2004, 08:37 AM
How can you say its the worse if it doesn't run on your computer. :blink:
Dont get me wrong..

It runs on my PC only so incredible slow that i really felt like :cry: at that moment...

That's why it was for me a :not_ok: game ....

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Yeah I hate it when you get games like that.

[Morrin]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy+Nov 26 2004, 04:02 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FreeFreddy @ Nov 26 2004, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Iron_Scarecrow@Nov 26 2004, 06:35 AM
All racing games suck.
You should definately try out the game Re-Volt. I also don't like racing games that much, but this game is awesome. It's not a serious racing simulator or something, instead you race in the remote-steered toy cars in their tiny perspective of the world. And steering just with a keyboard is almost nothing to do - totally easy. ;) [/b][/quote]
:blink:

Re-Volt is definetly the one of the last racing games if you are bored of racing games IN MY OPINION so please don't attack me. :) The best racing game _ever_ (again, in MY OPINION) is carmageddon! Absolutely hilarious fun!

[wormpaul]

Carmagedon wasnt really a race game....

Not in the traditional way of the word...it's more a shooter on wheels..

But Carmageddon 1 missed really some structure and difficulty...to be honest: It was a funny game but not that classic good as some people keep telling me (talking about my friends now...they love that game also)

[N17R0]

Carmageddon 2, oh so much fun I had with that. Somebody will probably blast me for saying this, but I actually do not like Need For Speed Underground. I think with how amazing racing physics have gotten with so many other chains, EA could figure out how to make a car drive...well....like a car.

[punch999]

nfs underground wasnt tht bad it was just tht horrible clean version of tht song
:sick: :Tom:

[wormpaul]

NFSU wasnt that bad...

Only i didnt like it...way too "Cool" in the wrong way...

[Unknown Hero]

NFS Underground looks like it was made by movie Fast and Furious!
BTW it's great - superb graphics and perfect car additions (vinils - :Brain: )

[Unknown Hero]

NFS Underground looks like it was made by movie Fast and Furious!
BTW it's great - superb graphics and perfect car additions (vinils - :Brain: )

[I_Wanna_Be_A_Pirate]

hmm worst game.. its recent.. very recent one game that had the crapest ending ever and didnt even half equal all the hype that went with it...the prequal was revelutanary...but the sequal completely flopped in my opinion, its nothing compared to the greats like doom 3 and its only saving grace was the wonderful physics engine and the C :max: :max: l gravity gun. i think you all must know the game im talking about HALF-LIFE2!!



it sucked i want to shoot the ppl who oraginised the plot cos they did jack all :sniper:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I haven't played it yet but want to at least try it out.

But Carmageddon was one of the best racing games I ever played. It seriously is a classic. :ok:

[evilded]

Half-life Blue shift. Not 'Worst' game, but i beat it in like an hour and a half. I mean, I spent 20 bucks for that? :not_ok: Boo

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I finished Sum of all Fears in about 30 minutes. It may have not been Sum of alll Fears, but it was a Tom clancy game based on one of his books.

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Dec 1 2004, 11:34 AM
I finished Sum of all Fears in about 30 minutes. It may have not been Sum of alll Fears, but it was a Tom clancy game based on one of his books.
Sum of fears isnt that bad...

Only the book is much better...

Only doesnt have that much link with eachothere...so maybe it isnt fair to compare them to eachother....

[N17R0]

Half-Life 2...HAHAHA
Gabe Newell is such a moron with his whole Steam system.

[JJXB]

if there was just 2 things that valve had done wrong it would be:
1: releasing that crappy steam system (i quit playing half-life 1 because of it)
2: making hl2 reliant on steam.
if you want to see my full rant on steam, go here:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic...p=160978#160978 (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=160978#160978)

[cheesegrater]

Originally posted by punch999@Nov 28 2004, 04:36 PM
what do u mean makes ur blood boil
I hate them so much, that I cannot stand watching somebody play them. When I see somebody playing those games it pisses me off.

------------------------------------

NFS Underground :sick:

- horrible, ugly cars, WTF? Honda Civic, VW Golf, and Dodge Neon??? wtf? i can drive those cars in real life, also there is stupid clown paint with dragons in bright green, oversized wings, fart-can mufflers - i rather die than drive a car like that

- crap car handling, unrealistic, super arcade, NFS1 had better car physics, crash model is garbage, it's like boxes on wheels colliding

- horrible level design, they are all dark cities and look the same, traffic is muck

- popular music soundtrack to add to the "coolness"

- when you use nos the screen blurs? wtf?!!!!

Overall: Driving 4 cylinder shitboxes with retarded upgrades that makes it a pseudo-sports car with retarded spoilers, pain, and fart-can exhausts in dark cities, while liestening to rap, using nos and having the screen blur and then crashing into a traffic car and effectively simulating a box to box collision.

This is a game for 14 year olds easily influenced by the media. EA exploiting human stupidity. It's funny how the media can make anything "cool". Ricers are not cool, that 1.5 litre engine will explode and the 2 tons of ugly plasstic trim, white rear headlights, wing, and hudge exhaust will not make you go any fast - you'll only look like a clown. Oh yeah, and lets not forget the automatic transmission - that is the most standard equipment for these people who think they have a sports car. At least now we can easily see all the dumbasses in society. When I drive and I see a ricer I am tempted to crash into it on purpose.

-------------------------------------------

This is what sucks about new games. Developers are no longer creative. When games were young there were tons of innovative concepts that are no longer existent. Now, the only think they do is incorporate the latest society trend into a game with graphics, but crap gameplay. I liked when games didn't rely on graphics, but on gameplay.

[N17R0]

AMEN! :D

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Dec 1 2004, 01:18 PM
Only the book is much better...

I own the book. And am planning to read it in about 10 years.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow+Dec 2 2004, 05:15 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Iron_Scarecrow @ Dec 2 2004, 05:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-wormpaul@Dec 1 2004, 01:18 PM
Only the book is much better...

I own the book. And am planning to read it in about 10 years. [/b][/quote]
Really. Same goes for me and the Tolkien books :)

[TaloN]

Counterstrike 1.6

1.5 was GODLY

1.6 is like wrapping it in bubble wrap and making it cuddly.

it sucks

ill only use steam to play DoD,DoD:S and HL2

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by Stroggy+Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stroggy @ Dec 2 2004, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Dec 2 2004, 05:15 AM
******QuoteBegin-wormpaul@Dec 1 2004, 01:18 PM
Only the book is much better...

I own the book. And am planning to read it in about 10 years.
Really. Same goes for me and the Tolkien books :) [/b][/quote]
Yeah I treid reading them once, but they can be very boring at parts. I gave up about 700 pages into the Fellowship of the Ring.

[Stroggy]

I finished the first book but eventually gave up halfway through 'The Two Towers'

This reminds me, that last Dune game (the fps) was a pretty bad game aswell I recall.

[auhsor]

Sure the Lord Of The Rings was awesome... the books I mean. Only the chapter 'The Counsil of Elrond' if I remember correctly in the first book was so boring and long. Most of the rest of it was great. And the movies were great too... But we are supposed to be talking about games here.

So um worst game huh... I don't know if I can think of any, as I don't generally go out and buy/play games without reading reviews.

Well ok, I will say DeusEx 2: Invisible War was really quite a let down after the first one. It had been dumbed down into a console game and it ran like a dog, even with the lowest settings. Sure it was alright, but I was expecing so much more.

Oh and I agree with cheesegrater about the whole marketting to 14 year old kids who are easily manipulated into thinking things are 'cool'. I am sick of that. I am just generally sick of the whole gangsta/hip hop/hotted up cars/bling whatever culture.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Originally posted by auhsor@Dec 3 2004, 12:06 PM
Oh and I agree with cheesegrater about the whole marketting to 14 year old kids who are easily manipulated into thinking things are 'cool'. I am sick of that. I am just generally sick of the whole gangsta/hip hop/hotted up cars/bling whatever culture.
I agree too. Hip Hop sucks. Rap is crap. I met these two guys at a party last night. They aussie to the bone but they dress like full gansta bro LOL . And they were singing to all the crappy rap and hip hop songs, and everyone hates them. Just looking at them pissed me off. :ranting:

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by auhsor@Dec 3 2004, 12:06 PM
Sure the Lord Of The Rings was awesome... the books I mean. Only the chapter 'The Counsil of Elrond' if I remember correctly in the first book was so boring and long
ONLY that?
No there were far more boring parts.

"we shall endeavour on this quest... but first we shall sing a 3 page long ode to some elf with a long name"

The second book was good right up to the fall of Isengard. After that (the entire Frodo and Sam part) was dull. very dull.

anyway, just wanted to say that.

moving on...

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I gave up at Lothlorien, just after they exit the caves. BORING!!!!!

[Stroggy]

You mean after Moria? The first movie does get boring after that aswell.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Yeah Moria. I couldn't remember the name. Mordor kept popping up in my head and I new that wasn't right.

But the thing about the book is it seems ten times longer than that part in the movie did.

[Stroggy]

Tolkien enjoys detail. He stretches the events by droning on about the sky and the leaves and the sun and the cold and so on and so forth. And whenever the story begins to progress Tolkien inserts one of his (poor) poems to thicken the book just a bit more.
In the movie these details were visual and most of these poems and dreams were left out. But even then it was still quite boring.

Tolkien is by no means a bad writer. Its just that the enjoyable scenes are stretched thin. You must endure a lot of boring text to reach an enjoyable part.
Much like with the Dune books. In my opinion the entire part between the Harkonnen assault on Arrakeen and the arrival of Paul and his mother in the Sietch was boring. And the entire part between the sietch and the fremen attack on Arrakeen was dull aswell.

Some people, however, find these highly detailed poetic/philosophical parts more enjoyable than the fast-paced parts. And so it all boils down to taste. Much like with worst game ever. Some think all racing games are terrible while other find playing racing games a highly enjoyable activity.

I for one can't stand football games, yet each and every year a few new football games are released so obviously there is a market for them.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I hate nearly all sports computer games. Only one I ever enjoyed was fifa soccer on the sega mega drive 2.

Stroggy you seem interested in fast paced books. Have you read anything by Matthew Reilly?

[Stroggy]

No. I'm currently reading Dan brown because of its fact-paced style.

I'll look into Matthew Reilly.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Oh you should. He's great. But his last book about hover car racers is good but it isn't as good as his previous book. Mainly cause no one dies. :crazy:

[Stroggy]

yes that hovercar book looked strangely out of place and didn't appeal to me s much as his other books :blink:

thanks.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Apparently The Hover Car book Started as a serial you could download off the internet. But then he decided to put it all together into a book. But it is deffinently not like any of his others, although it does have the same fast paced action. I read it in less than a day.

[Bankrupt]

Must say that sim city was a BIG disapointment jup I hated it it was so Boring, Boring with big B.


I have played many build city games but this sucked it made me crasy :wall:

[Rogue]

Is there something wrong with your signature? :D (I have this option turned off, but checking your profile was a bit interesting :D)

[Ioncannon]

a bit to.... BIIIIGGGG with a capital B

[Bankrupt]

Its changed ukey