Abandonia's Copy Of Norton Commander

[The Fifth Horseman]

Did anyone manage to succesfully install that thing on DosBox 0.65?
For me it just keeps giving some "file missing" message.

I'm currently using an older version of NC that I copied from my old DOS machine, but the one on AB seems to be more up-to-date version.

[Data]

got it a futher when using 0.61

[mika]

Rather try use Dos Navigator (http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/dn/index.php?phrase_id=642999). Much, much better.

Someone should probably add it to the utils page on Abandonia too.

[lwc]

I've had no trouble installing it in DOSBox 0.70, but I came here wondering what's the difference between the installation ZIP and the images. I didn't bother downloading the images.

Also, please fix the version in the download page from 5.5 to 5.51. True, only the install.cfg file indicates it's 5.51 and not 5.5, but it's 5.51 nonetheless.

[_r.u.s.s.]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lwc @ May 4 2007, 08:26 PM) 289257</div>
I've had no trouble installing it in DOSBox 0.70, but I came here wondering what's the difference between the installation ZIP and the images. I didn't bother downloading the images.

Also, please fix the version in the download page from 5.5 to 5.51. True, only the install.cfg file indicates it's 5.51 and not 5.5, but it's 5.51 nonetheless.
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well
Originally posted by www.abandonia.com
*.img files can be copied to real floppies
you ll have 'prepared' floppy for instalation on any computer, while the zip is one big file with already installed version (that cant be put in to one floppy)

btw, next time make a new topic, dont ressurect old ones=)

[lwc]

well[/b]
Well, I hope it'll get done...
the zip is one big file with already installed version (that cant be put in to one floppy)[/b]
Escuse me? The zip is an installation just as well only not divided to multiple files.

btw, next time make a new topic, dont ressurect old ones=)[/b]
Think about it, if everybody followed your advise, each game would have 10000000000 topics...

[_r.u.s.s.]

first of all. whats your problem? o_O

second of all, the fact that its divided in to multiple files means, that it can be put on floppes (like i said..) and easily transferred on different computer with floppy drives, where one big file cant be sticked.

and that thing about topics.. games discussion and troubleshooting is something different. read the rules, -iwc-, no ressurecting after 3-4 weeks .. and this thread was half year old

[bobson]

What is the point to install it under DOSBox? Is there a chance to "save" installed programs under DOSBox? Or is it just installed and ready to work both under DOSBox and (possibly) Windows?

[jg007]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bob-satan @ May 6 2007, 09:39 PM) 289433</div>
What is the point to install it under DOSBox? [/b]

personally I can see no point at ALL for using norton commander in dosbox. why on earth would you want to do that??????, windows explorer will do your file managment.

heck, I am a real dos fanboy and even I wouldn't bother using it!

just my opinion so feel free to enlighten me

[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jg007 @ May 6 2007, 11:06 PM) 289436</div>personally I can see no point at ALL for using norton commander in dosbox. why on earth would you want to do that??????, windows explorer will do your file managment.

heck, I am a real dos fanboy and even I wouldn't bother using it!

just my opinion so feel free to enlighten me[/b]Well when I was a kid I accidently started a process in the NC and it screwed the harddisk... <_<
I had little knowledge of it, so... ^_^
I think it is a nice tool for maneuvering through DOS (dos box started).
Of course the Windows Explorer will work for file management.
It's maybe a matter of taste.

[The Fifth Horseman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lwc @ May 4 2007, 08:26 PM) 289257</div>I've had no trouble installing it in DOSBox 0.70, [/b]That's because this problem has been specifically fixed - or so I was told.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bob-satan @ May 6 2007, 10:39 PM) 289433</div>What is the point to install it under DOSBox? Is there a chance to "save" installed programs under DOSBox?[/b]
1. Easier management of your games directory.
2. The mounted directories can be written to normally... so once you install something, it stays.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jg007 @ May 6 2007, 11:06 PM) 289436</div>personally I can see no point at ALL for using norton commander in dosbox. why on earth would you want to do that??????, windows explorer will do your file managment.[/b]
I'm surprised you're using such a clunky and inconvenient interface as Windows Explorer. Mind trying out a recommendation for Total Commander?
Back to the topic, Norton has a lot of advantage over your everyday command line, especially if you've got an allergy to frontends.
It's very convenient GUI when your Dosbox games directory gets larger (mine's got over 50 games in it... go figure).

[Japo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 7 2007, 01:20 PM) 289498</div>It's very convenient GUI when your Dosbox games directory gets larger (mine's got over 50 games in it... go figure).[/b]
I use the /W parameter for the DIR command. (If there's no DOS prompt it's not the same nostalgic relief for me. :P ) Actually I add the following line to the autoexec part of dosbox.conf:

SET DIRCMD=/P /W

Whatever parameters you put in the DIRCMD environment variable will be in force every time you use DIR. (At least the /O parameter from DOS 6 is not understood by DOSBox.) If for once you don't want one of them to be in force, add the parameter with a minus sign, for example «DIR /-P».

Bob, I'm pretty sure you can write whatever you wish onto your mounted drives (hard or floppy, that is non-ROM) and it will remain written to your real hardware drives regardless of the method used. I remember having created files within DOSBox using EDIT.COM copied from DOS 6.2. And if you think about it, otherwise saved games wouldn't work.

[bobson]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 7 2007, 01:20 PM) 289498</div>
2. The mounted directories can be written to normally... so once you install something, it stays.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Japofran @ May 7 2007, 04:53 PM) 289521</div>
Bob, I'm pretty sure you can write whatever you wish onto your mounted drives (hard or floppy, that is non-ROM) and it will remain written to your real hardware drives regardless of the method used.
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I haven't thought about it this way ... :tomato:

Most time spent with emulators was C64 and GBA - there was nearly no way to put anything to disk (apart from saved games). Now i understand the topic about Win 3.11 under DOSBox (or was it DOSBox under win3.11?)

To play games i use my old-school laptop - that is why i underestimated DOSBox.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mika @ Nov 23 2006, 02:01 PM) 268391</div>
Rather try use Dos Navigator (http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/dn/index.php?phrase_id=642999). Much, much better.
[/b]
This one is not my favourite ... It's easy to use with mouse, but keyboard is the best way to control PC :bleh:

[Data]

I use the DIRCMD feature + tab completion.
in 0.70 if you type "cd" and press tab it will even start with directories instead of executables.

NC is nice, but because of the incompatiblity with the runtime modifiable configuration features I don't use it.

[jg007]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 7 2007, 12:20 PM) 289498</div>
I'm surprised you're using such a clunky and inconvenient interface as Windows Explorer. Mind trying out a recommendation for Total Commander?
Back to the topic, Norton has a lot of advantage over your everyday command line, especially if you've got an allergy to frontends.
It's very convenient GUI when your Dosbox games directory gets larger (mine's got over 50 games in it... go figure).
[/b]

sorry 5th! , looks like I'm just having a go at you today :), I always find windows explorer or even just opening directory windows pretty easy and my abandonware directory also has 50 games :P

I always used to use xtree gold and was a big fan of that a loooong time ago but I just don't but as said personall I find windows ( and ocassional dos command line ) fine for everything I need to do and why install another program when the built in works fine ?

[Icewolf]

Ahh, one of my favourite thread types!
People with huge experstise are discussing what program serves what purpose best.
And then they discuss [what happens when] and [but if you wanna do xyz].
^_^
Go on guys, no offense! I always find it very entertaining. :ok:

[The Fifth Horseman]

why install another program when the built in works fine ?[/b]
TC has a bucketload of features your Windows Explorer doesn't, like operating on tabs (you can have as many open as you like, and the directories they're opened on are stored upon leaving the program), integrated multi-renamer, built-in ZIP packer/unpacker (that is far superior to the one in Win XP, and you can configure TC to use other external packer/unpacker software like WinRAR automatically), FTP client... and that's just a fraction. The thing is like a swiss army knife.

When I had to use the Windows Explorer for a couple hours after reinstalling WinXP last year, the lack of TC's features made me feel like handicapped.

[jg007]

like operating on tabs (you can have as many open as you like, and the directories they're opened on are stored upon leaving the program)[/b]

windows??, although I have to agree that it won't store them :)

integrated multi-renamer [/b]

you can do that to an extent in explorer

built-in ZIP packer/unpacker (that is far superior to the one in Win XP, and you can configure TC to use other external packer/unpacker software like WinRAR automatically)[/b]

I have explorer configured to use winzip anyway

FTP client... and that's just a fraction. The thing is like a swiss army knife. [/b]

okay, got me there but I don't really do much FTP uploading and all dowloading I do through IE ( yep not even firefoxed :tai: )

as is the usual case all depends what you are doing and your preferences although I could not see any benefit to using one specifically for dosbox

[bobson]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 11 2007, 12:52 PM) 289905</div>
When I had to use the Windows Explorer for a couple hours after reinstalling WinXP last year, the lack of TC's features made me feel like handicapped.
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After reinstalling system first thing to do is to set-up network, second - install TC!
And all the drivers can be installed. Install one, copy it from "to do" folder to "done" with just one button. No need to use mouse, everything is clear and simple!

jg007 - time is money, drag&drop is no money :bleh:

It's more conveniant in Windows, but under DOSBox I do not use NC for now - I use TC under Win, and I type everything. As you said - it's all about preferences :ok:

[The Fifth Horseman]

windows??, although I have to agree that it won't store them[/b]
Pretty much so, except all the tabs are in one vertically split window. That results in much less clutter both onscreen and in your taskbar.

you can do that to an extent in explorer[/b]
Tell me Explorer can do that:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4930/tcrenamervb0.png

I have explorer configured to use winzip anyway[/b]Yes, but TC can also be configured to pack/unpack other archive types - the level of integration is such that they could just as well be natively supported, since after you set the paths to the archiver executables, you can open RAR, LHA, ACE (and a few others) from TC directly, just like ZIP.

[_r.u.s.s.]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bob-satan @ May 14 2007, 09:46 AM) 290183</div>
jg007 - time is money, drag&drop is no money :bleh:
[/b]
use key shortcuts :bleh:

[lwc]

Ah, rules or no rules, I made this topic live again (would it really make you feel there's more harmony in the world if you had multiple topics for this program?). I still like some admin to fix v5.5 into v5.51.

[_r.u.s.s.]

harmony? did i close this topic? no. :)
i let you know that there s such a rule for the future

[Japo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 14 2007, 02:33 PM) 290217</div>Tell me Explorer can do that:
...[/b]
You can do that at the command prompt in Windows, and already could in old DOS with no need of any additional tool. :bleh: