A Movie I Made

[Stroggy]

A short and strange movie I made a few weeks ago.
disregard the fact that its episode 3, episode 1 and 2 were just my first attempts.
They contained no animation (just stills with text and some music)

I dare you to guess where the music is from!

anyway, without further delay, I present to you:

A Zymler Cinematographic Production.

Written by: Michael Zymler

Directed by: Michael Zymler

Shallow III : The Tube (http://users.pandora.be/michzym/episode3.WMV)

[Wael]

Riiight...

Have you ever considered therapy?



I liked it though...

But I´m insane,
so that recudes the value of my opinion.


/are the voices supposed to sound like that?/

[Stroggy]

Heh, I'm quite distrurbingly normal in real life.

Thanks for your opinion

Since my voice sucks I recorded my voice and then reversed it, to give it that weird sound
:D

[Wael]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 02:14 PM
Heh, I'm quite distrurbingly normal in real life.

Thanks for your opinion

Since my voice sucks I recorded my voice and then reversed it, to give it that weird sound
:D
Normal?
Glad you can realise that it´s disturbing,
there´s still hope...

-And the voices,
well they fitted it perfectly-

-Btw,
the film was quite dreamlike,
in a good way...

[Stroggy]

well since i'm still very new and the mediums used weren't really made for what I used them for the movie isn't exactly as i had intended it to be.
For example I think the ending was way to abrupt.

But I've learned from my errors and have started work on Episode IV: Aerial Escape

[Wael]

Waiting to see it...

[Stroggy]

will take me some time since i've got a lot of work these days

[Wael]

There´s no hurry...

[wormpaul]

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

Looks really funny :ok: :ok:

[FreeFreddy]

It looks like some South Park, just little crazier yet. LOL

[Sebatianos]

HEY!
It's the long awaited movie premiere of STROGGY!
I'm glad you decided to put it up here - it's MENATLLY DESTURBING.
Keep up the good... weirdnes!

Unfortunately I won't be able to put up any of my stuff (way too long).

[Wael]

How large files?

[Sean]

Hey stroggy is your material offensive?

if so ill have 2 watch when nobody around eh!!

[Stroggy]

well these first two aren't offensive.

Episode 1 (http://users.pandora.be/michzym/episode1.WMV)

Episode 2: café au lait (http://users.pandora.be/michzym/episode2.WMV)

[FreeFreddy]

Heh, now what should I say... Weird. :whistle: :D

[Rogue]

They got some special doctors for this kind of things... LOL LOL LOL

[Stroggy]

yes yes, I know its weird.

But what about the rest?
Should I increase the ammount of details? (most of them do get lost due to the poor quality of the video, so it would be pointless to add them)

Should I make it longer? (I spent atleast 3 days making episode 3 and it only lasts a few seconds)

Here are my ideas:
Currently I am using Photoshop to make since in .gif while this is works gifs are meant to be used as smaller animation in avatars and signatures, not movies. I then use a low end program like Windows Movie maker to stick the gifs together and add sound.
I add sound by recording my voice and then reversing it.

While this obviously works, I get the feeling I'm using a lot of different mediums to achieve an effect for which one would usually use another program.

So I think my efforts are better spent learning Flash and creating movies in there.
This greatly increases detail and lowers filesize, ofcoarse I've heard its a totally different medium compared to the programs I'm using now.

anyway, thats what I think

[Rogue]

Try to use FLASH ;)

I missed this: 'So I think my efforts are better spent learning Flash and creating movies in there.'

Totally agree!

[Stroggy]

Now if I could only find a store in Belgium selling Flash :blink:

[FreeFreddy]

I wish you good luck with Flash then... :rolleyes:
It's so damn difficult and complex, I gave up the first moment I saw the shareware version of some Flash MX. :eeeeeh:

[Unknown Hero]

Hey, I think you moved it somewhere, cuz I can't open that link!

[Wael]

So it seems...

[Stroggy]

Try again.

I've heard Flash is difficult...

But I think I can muster the brainpower to learn it

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Wael@Nov 11 2004, 07:47 PM
How large files?
The first movie is 450M (24min) and the second 1.3G (68min).
That's the advantage of being a teache at school (you can get the kids to play in a movie you want to make - too bad we only have a lousy VHS-C camera, so the qualiti is just horrible - almost unwatchable).

[Unknown Hero]

"Movie error"

"This movie has performed an ilegal operation, and will be shut down! For more information contact the movie producer!"







Just jokeing!

[Unknown Hero]

WHAT 450MB AND 1GB!!!! ARE YOU CRAZY! I COULDN'T DOWNLOAD IT EVEN IF I HAD ADSL!

[Stroggy]

that is quite a hefty download, indeed.


That's the advantage of being a teache at school you can get the kids to play in a movie you want to make
After Dutroux, police in Belgium would be knocking down your door just for saying that :)

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 08:53 PM
So I think my efforts are better spent learning Flash and creating movies in there.
This greatly increases detail and lowers filesize, ofcoarse I've heard its a totally different medium compared to the programs I'm using now.
From my experiance, but I only used this for editing, it's very easy (and you can geti it for. free) to actually use Virtual Dub. Don't know if you're familiar with the program. It's simple and you can use it together with paint (just asics). Just make all the frames you want and put them together in a movie (you must only calculate how many frames must be the same - 25 frames are 1s of time - so just make 25 copies of a frame and you have 1 s. of time covered). You can also add music with this and put the movie into an avi format. Not the best way I guess, but it is for free!

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 09:30 PM
After Dutroux, police in Belgium would be knocking down your door just for saying that :)
Nah, I'm not into child pornography.
One movie is about Death - who came to Eart and killed a girl, to do the house choirs. The girl's soul had to come back on earth to solve the murder and hired some detectives, but because Death shouldn't kill for its own selfish reasons anyway, the soul was alowed to return to her body and the detective nearly got a stroke. Thinking she would die, Death came to claim her, but because It was punished, it had a cute teddybear instead of the scythe and trhey all had a good laugh).
The other one I'd rather not talk about - it was wierd!

[Stroggy]

yes, and none of us make weird movies :D

[Wael]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 07:51 PM
yes, and none of us make weird movies :D
NOT with happy endings...

[Stroggy]

Mine had a happy ending.
After fleeing the cops, the friends arrived in Cuba and they both had a good laugh.

-fin-

[Wael]

Laughing is good.

Repeat a dozen times,
and think of the meaning of this post.

[Stroggy]

What are you up to?

[Wael]

//post deleted as meaningless rambling//

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 09:51 PM
yes, and none of us make weird movies :D
Weird as in - 26 kids - one riding a motorbike, and one scene where they throw a guy in a well. Beside that, there's really nothing else going on (for about an hour - they just talk about what they'd like to do during their summer-brake).

[Wael]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Nov 11 2004, 08:30 PM
Weird as in - 26 kids - one riding a motorbike, and one scene where they throw a guy in a well. Beside that, there's really nothing else going on (for about an hour - they just talk about what they'd like to do during their summer-brake).
So it differs from most of the weirdness by being weird in a different way.
But what´s so bad in that...

A shame that it´s size is what it is.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Nov 11 2004, 08:30 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Nov 11 2004, 08:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Stroggy@Nov 11 2004, 09:51 PM
yes, and none of us make weird movies* :D
Weird as in - 26 kids - one riding a motorbike, and one scene where they throw a guy in a well. Beside that, there's really nothing else going on (for about an hour - they just talk about what they'd like to do during their summer-brake). [/b][/quote]
sounds like a book I had to read for hebrew

[Sebatianos]

Hope you're next movie isn't in hebrew, I'm a little rusty at languages I never could speak!

[Stroggy]

my next movie is in english, and the voices are the same old gibberish.
But this time i've also got two friends, so there is a difference in tone (which was severely lacking in my previous movie)

[FreeFreddy]

Great! I'm looking forward to more sarcasm... :sneaky:

[Stroggy]

sarcasm?

[FreeFreddy]

The one I noticed in your movies. At least something of it. :sneaky:

[Stroggy]

Well my movies started out as a portrait of how stupod modern series are.

if you are quick enough you saw that the title of the series is 'shallow' written like 'friends' (with coloured dots between the letters)

But somewhere along the creation of episode 3 my mind wandered into some nasty twisted and dark corridors of my mind.

I still need to tackle obvious ethnic minorities, they are ever present in TV-series these days:

Hi i'm Will, i'm afro-american/asian/jew hear me how I make wisecracking jokes about my customs and beliefs for your entertainment
hahaha!

[Maerlyn]

As long as you realise youre just a clone of a clone, good luck.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Maerlyn@Nov 13 2004, 07:40 PM
As long as you realise youre just a clone of a clone, good luck.
hmm
correction
i'm making a mockery of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone

[Maerlyn]

Yes, and you'd be the 1000000th person to do so.

Atleast youre doing something, right?

[Stroggy]

everybody is a critic.

Nice to see someone who does have the courage to say something other than 'weird' or 'nice'

[FreeFreddy]

Well, you could hardly call it nice. It looks for really weird. But the movies are well made for the beginning.

[Puffin]

Heh, I really like your movies, Stroggy!!
Can't wait to see more :sneaky:

[bohor]

theyre all cool, a very unique/interesting sense for humor the autor has...
and the 3rd episode is the best of all three.
:ok: keep up the good work, cant wait for the 4th episode!

[Rorture]

Hmm....The blonde guy could be gay.....It's a mystery.....

[Fruit Pie Jones]

No, he clearly says he's not gay on more than one occasion. Why would he lie about something like that?

[Stroggy]

He's not gay.
He's one of those macho types that always gets the girl and spends all day long in the gym working his abs... they're never gay :D

[FreeFreddy]

Of course not... :rolleyes:
They're just lesbians! :bleh:

[Rorture]

I'm a lesbian

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Rorture@Nov 25 2004, 12:02 PM
I'm a lesbian
Cool...

Again another lady on the forum (sorry that i didnt notice that before :tomato: )

[Rorture]

Im actually a man, that was a bad joke

check my profile

[wendymaree]

Phew...hehe

[Tom Henrik]

Originally posted by wendymaree@Nov 25 2004, 01:22 PM
Phew...hehe
Did you say "phew" because of your big crush on him, or because you are afraid of lesbians? ;)

[wendymaree]

Big crush of course

[Maerlyn]

All girls are lesbians after 2 drinks.

[Tom Henrik]

Let's stop the :ot: train here. ;)

[wendymaree]

To get things back on topic...

What I liked about your movies, Stroggy, was that they were original and had power (never boring), power to get your attention and the power to make you think. I l liked the sound effects (voice-over) in the first film because it was effective and alerted you that something mental was about to follow. What I didn't like about the first film was I felt it didn't say anything more than an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon. Some might like shock value just for the sake of it. But I think if you're going to shock, why not give people something to think about as well. Then the film, or whatever, has more going for it, more to offer its audience. The second film did just that - I thought, anyway. I saw it as an interesting twist on the superficial perceptions a few females might have. Instead, you have the guy saying the words and often adding, 'But I'm not gay', which is funny and off-beat at the same time. The third film, cafe au lait , was similar to the second with the guy displaying gay tendencies but dening them at the same time.


You've asked about more details...well, your style is a minimalist one, and I like this because it suits the hard-hitting, no-nonsense dialogue and plot of the films. I think the character artwork could be fine-tuned a little. If you branched into Flash, as you indicated you might be, the results would be awesome. Would be really interested in seeing what you could do with this program.

EDIT
Thought about the first film some more, and it IS funny that beside a 'no spitting' sign there's a decapitated guy. I didn't get this on the first viewing. Hard to tell that he was decapitated. If the head was missing and just a bloodied neck remained , then it'd be more obvious. With great sick humour like this there's no need for extra meaning which I mentioned earlier. *grin*