Supremacy Aka Overlord

[Kosta]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available) (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/283)

[DiamondSoul]

Hmmm... I've never even heard of this... :eeeeeh:

[Eagle of Fire]

Ne neither and that game is next on my "to try" list. Look interesting. :)

[Sebatianos]

It's old!
I wouldn't know of it either, if it weren't for the C64 original!

[IronShemp]

This game is a lot of fun.
I used to play it on my old 7mhz XT with the CGA monitor!
LOL

I never finished it because no matter how large or aggressive I made my army, I could never take the computer's homeworld.

All in all it is a fun game - even more so if you're drunk at the time!
:OK:

[pachoo]

How do I keep from running out of food, especially on my home planet?

I have 3 of those harvester things on the surface of my homeplanet, but I still keep running out of food.

[pachoo]

nevermind i figured it out.

:brain:

[gregor]

a link to manual would be nice with this game. :whistling:

[Deelaan]

:brain: I Haven't seen this game since I was I kid, I used to play it all the time at my uncles on his Amiga 600 - It was so cool back then but I found it quite difficult. Playing again though I was easily able to defeat WOTOK but am yet to try a different campaign. Can't believe it works on a modern computer. :OK: Hope fully I'll be able to finish it now bit a 32 planet system is so hard to manage well... Anyway Awesome game - definately one that was very underated for its time. :cry: :cheers: :OK:

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by gregor@Nov 14 2004, 10:51 AM
a link to manual would be nice with this game. :whistle:
Well if you find one...
But it's not really that difficoult. I figured the game out on my own at the age of 14 (back on the old C64). Just look at where the icons lead you!

[Matheus (SenhorLampada)]

:kosta:

Supremacy.... WE PRAISE YOU!

This game is really fun.... and it's sort of easy to learn how to play...
You can learn how to play it in 1 hour...
But to master it.... it's a LOT harder! :crazy:

I really recommend it for you guys who don't know it yet!

Once I managed to conquer the enemy's Homeworld... but it was DAMN hard...
The enemy plays it DIRTY!

[superrob]

:sos: I would REALLY like a link ot the manual. I loved this game as a kid. Course, i never knew what i was doing. i can't believe i still remember it! Its great! Of course, it'd help if i still knew how to play...

[Guest]

Ookay, i found a site that has a manual, but its on another "abondoned games" site. I would like to know if its okay to post it here, just for the sake of actually having a manual.

[Sebatianos]

Well we don't want to steal stuff from other sites, but if you just provide a link to it, that would be just fine. Thanks!

[Guest_guest]

this game ruled on C64 :)

[Keith]

Man what an awsome game I remember it when I was in the military in '92. I played it on my amiga 500 for hours and hours. Man, my SGT. was pissed when I missed morning formations....

[Petter1979]

A very good old game, used to play this game all the time on my amiga back then, have played it a few times recently. :OK:

[Ricky]

This was the 1st computer game I bought back in 1991. Loved it!! I just never figured out how to exit the game. Does anyone know?

[camieabz]

I've the manual for this. I'll get it scanned sometime.

[Digger]

I played this back in the day and loved it. But now I can't get the ships to take a crew. Any ideas? I can by all the agro ships I want but without a crew they are usless. Pleas advise. beeep@yahoo.com

No emails allowed. ~~arete

[Sebatianos]

When you are in the storage room (the crate icon) you can add a crew to a ship. You'll see a little man icon and a fuel pump icon (yup, the second one is for filling the ship with fuel).

[fiber]

Originally posted by Ricky@Aug 22 2005, 05:45 AM
This was the 1st computer game I bought back in 1991. Loved it!! I just never figured out how to exit the game. Does anyone know?
It's called "REBOOT"! The game messes with the system clock for the timing of the game. :sniper:

[Petter1979]

Originally posted by Ricky@Aug 22 2005, 11:45 AM
This was the 1st computer game I bought back in 1991. Loved it!! I just never figured out how to exit the game. Does anyone know?
think i use CTRL + Q

[Guest]

How do I choose Roland as a sound source?

[P. C. Fulton]

I Loved this game whem I was a kid.
I told my 2nd grade teacher I wanted to be a despot when I grew up, after she looked up the word despot she kinda wigged.

[Liquid Metal]

I have played this game (PC version) over 30 times on my old XT even now on my new computer and I still like it. I have made a document for efficiency rules, if there is a way to upload it to this site, tell me and I will do.

Cheats or Bugs (whatever):
-By changing Tax on each calculation period you can maximize populationgrowth and Income.
-When you have a solar-sat above the second planet for a while and you bring it to dockingbay for scrapping, sometimes you get 30000 energy on the planet.


For those who have difficulties with playing, a few tips:

-A mining (vulcanous picture)vplanet gets extra minerals and fuels
-A life (bush with river picture) planet gets extra population, this planet only needs 3 farms to populate to 29030, these are the most interesting planets.
-A desert planet gets extra energy (not very interesting)
-a advanced planet gives more money per population but is only interesting when you have no more life planets.
-When buying a ship always directly put crew on the ship in the docking bay
-Do not forget the solar-sat in orbit of each used planet with stations
-later in the game the cargoship, solarsats or mining stations could be destroyed in cargobay when not used anymore or when farms or battleships are more needed.
-Tax 40% equal 0% populationgrowth (do this at max population for foodlimit) (without fertility drug (with =51%))



Wotok:
-buy 2 farms on starbase, then 6 solar-sats (in orbit)
-decrease Tax rate so you have more population until population exceeds food production then Taxrate to 40%( for a few moments you can put tax on 100%, do not forget to bring it to 39/40/41 %! or you will lose to many population), then build 4 additional farms for starbase (popmax is now approx 17535). Buy atmosphere processor and terraform new planets.
-When you have more than 5000 population on starbase, start training troops.
-interesting new planets need to be used for credits or for fuel production (1 planet).

When playing fast you can build troops and launch it directly on enemy base, but when the enemy has planets you need to conquer these planets first (if he attacks he will start at the top). Also you need to protect your own planets with troops if you wait to long or when the enemy is stronger (smine, krart, rorn). Normally 4 platoons is enough to withstand 2 or more attacks, it depends also on the suits and weapons the troops are carrying. Renew damged troops by placing new ones on your to be defended planet and taking the damaged ones to the enemy for attacking planets.

-Set agression to 100%, this makes the troops more effective in battle, unless you want to play it hard.-Replace platoons with stronger platoons, and trow the weakest at the enemy, so you build stronger platoons each time. Consider 2 or 3 battleships full of platoons for the enemy planet, 1 for normal planets.

Smine:
-buy 9 to 12 solar-sats until production is done then you can remove those solar-sats which are not in use above a planet for energy, a planet needs 1 energy unit per station on planet surface, the solar-sat produces 6 units on a normal planet, 9 units on a desert planet.
-Buy mining stations for your first or second terraformed planet, you need fuels for your ships. When you get a mining planet (vulcanous picture) place the mining stations there for more efficiency.
-Dont forget to place troops on your planets. Smine is attacking all planets with small troop strength, so protect those planets you wish to keep with 1 platoon. Other planets can be taken by the enemy (retaken for fuel when you want to travel to the enemys base). Build stronger troops and attack enemy planet, even when the enemy has planets, now logistic view is important. Your ships use 50 units fuel per E.D.A. and 100 per launch from planet.

Krart/Rorn:
-You need 2 mining stations on starbase since you need minerals for construction. buy these in between (3 farms,1 mine, 1 farm, 1 mine).
-When you have a mining planet, move the miningstations to the mining planet and bring troops and 3 farms to it. population 8900.

Now you must expand with care. Every battle cruiser must be able to return to a planet in your possession. Attack enemy planets (1 or 2 ships, fully loaded with platoons). If you have new platoons, refresh platoons on your important planets (life planets and in the beginning a mining planet, until the mining drill is upgraded, then move your mining stations to a life planet approx 1/3 and 2/3 between enemy base and starbase)
When platoons get weaker you can consider attacking with 3 ships on one planet.
It is important that you use your platoons well, train intime so you do not lack troops on your own planets. I always take the first 2 or 3 ships with (8 to 12) platoons to attack the enemy planets after they have hold of attacks from the enemy on my own planets, the enemy attack mainly the planet with mining stations on it.

To capure enemy base you need 5 or 6 battleships with troops. In the first raid attack with the troops you wish to refresh. Enemy stops attacking for a while. Then Refresh troops on your important planets and attack enemy with 3 or 4 battleships full of troops. The enemy will stop attacking for a longer moment. Now attack the enemy with 5 or 6 battleships fully filled with platoons. Repeat until enemy has lost. When the enemy captures planets in between, attack those planets on your trip to enemybase and retake them.


I have probably forgotten few things because I play it automatically but maybe these are enough tips to play the game easier.

[Liquid Metal]

Supremacy Calculation sheet (http://www.snertwerk.com/liquidmetal/supremacy/Supremacy_Efficiency_calc.xls)

[irflashrex]

oh man 12 years ago i was :wall: with this old game i thank yall for the opertoonity to :sniper: :rant: rorn i can now leave this obsesion behind find me a woman and start a family :tai: oops did i type that LOL :D well thanks agan bye :hello: :hello:

[roark]

Just thought I'd point out a spelling error in the game description - it's "Reign supreme" not "rain supreme". Thanks.

[Smokey.]

:brain:

This game rules, Me and my mate Azoth (Hi Arron) used to play this as kids on a c64 back in the old days. Best game I ever played.

Smokey.

[Guest_Ian_*]

Hello there.

Did we ever get the link to the manual sorted?

[YoStone]

This game is driving me crazy!!!! I keep buying farms fuiling them to the top, I send 6 solar sats in orbit... but I keep getting - in food storage, even from the start... I try controlling this with tax... but that dosn't help me at all... can somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong???

and yes I'm playing against the weakest opponent, but I can't advance if my population keeps decreasing!!! :wall:
:sos:

[-==3DGuy==-]

Originally posted by Guest_Ian_* @ Jun 19 2006, 07:39 PM
Hello there.

Did we ever get the link to the manual sorted?




I too loved this game years ago! Get the manual in PDF at http://www.the-underdogs.info/games/s/supr...s/supremacy.pdf (http://www.the-underdogs.info/games/s/supremacy/files/supremacy.pdf)

[rorn-stomper]

I played this on my first PC ever and it was addicting. I was thrilled to find the old software and have successfully stomped rorn again.



Tips

Your first purchases should be two energy sats and a farm. Send the sats into orbit, crew the farm, deploy.
Next, purchase another farm and a mine when you have the revenue. Crew and deploy.
Get a third sat up ASAP.
Let your population grow to about 10K, change the tax rate to 40% and let the pop stabilize.
As soon as you have the revenue, buy a planetary format thing and terraform planet1.
Reduce your tax rate to 30% and immediately start building an army. Go for the best armor and weapons, and make sure they are all at 200 units. Your population should just keep up with your army building. When finished, put tax back to 40%.

So far you have a good start. Here's where I exploit the game...

Keep formatting planets. You are only interested in planet3 and planet5 (or whatever first two jungle type planets you end up with - for me it was 3 and 5... yours may be planets 1 and 2). Keep formatting planets just so that when the game causes random disasters, it has a wider selection. On each planet you format, send the money home immediately, crank the tax up to 100% and tax them into extinction. (Kind of like Massachusetts). The only exceptions are planet3 and planet5. Immediately bump them up to 40%.

By the time you are done with planet5, you should have enough money to buy two troops and a troop carrier. Crew the carrier, put the troops on planet3.
Bring the carrier home. Start to build up planet3 by reducing tax. Buy a sat and a farm, crew, and send to planet3. Get a second sat and farm and send it to planet3.
By this time, the enemy will probably have attacked some of your planets. Let them. You want to get two more troops built and get them to planet3 to keep it defended.
When you have planet3 with four troops, three farms and two sats, get the population up to about 25K and lock it in at 40%. Guard at all costs, this will fund the development of planet5.

Send money home, build troops, get farms and sats, repeat for planet 5. Eventually you will get about 25K population on both planet3 and planet5. Save often. If your troop units are wiped out, remember to backfill them. Random disasters occur... if they occur on planet3 or planet5, reload to last save. Yes, it's cheezy, but you want to nail rorn in a few hours, then don't accept setbacks.

Do not worry about expansion. Do not worry about more mines. You might take four more units and wipe out as many nearby enemy planets as possible. Pillage the resources, send the money home, keep some of his ships, delete the rest. You are just hindering his resource flow until you are ready to attack his home base.

At some point in the game, you will be informed that all ships are now nuclear and don't need fuel. See all the grief you saved by playing defensively? Now, if you maintain four units on planet3 and four on planet5, that leaves you 16 full units to attack the enemy base. If you want to drag the game out, you can take 12 units and systematically pillage his planets until your units are dead. (yes, only 12... you want to save 4 units to refresh planet5 because the enemy will attack it nonstop until you hit the enemy base).

When you are done pillaging, or if you decided to skip that, send four fully loaded troop ships to enemy base and attack. You will get wiped, so you may as well send the ships home immediately. I find it takes two more full runs to finish rorn's enemy base off. Just watch the battle, when your units all hit zero, immediately drop your home base tax to 30% and recruit all your units back to 200. Remember to put your tax back to 40%. At some point, you can even ditch the two mines on home base and replace them with farms to get your home population up to about 20K.

Three, maybe four runs at the enemy planet will do it. Guarantee three if you grab another troop carrier and take the troops off planet3 and planet5 on the third run. You will land with about 30K unit strength, and if you've been quick, rorn will still be recovering from your last attacks and should be at about 20K. Remember, after you depleted rorn in the first attack, he doesn't try to attack any more of your planets until he has restocked his armies. If you are efficient at time management, you won't get attacked again after the first time you hit him. It takes about 2.5 million to provision 16 full-strength units each time, so pay attention to the health of planet3 and planet5, send money home frequently.

Hope this helps those who had problems with rorn.

CWB

[Guest_Sebatianos_*]

Originally posted by YoStone @ Aug 20 2006, 04:03 PM
This game is driving me crazy!!!! I keep buying farms fuiling them to the top, I send 6 solar sats in orbit... but I keep getting - in food storage, even from the start... I try controlling this with tax... but that dosn't help me at all... can somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong???

A question about your farming ships:
- do they hava a crew?
- are they on the surface of the planet?
- are they turned ON?
- was there a storm or some other planetary event? Those might turn the ships OFF so they're not producing.

Even with all 6 possible farming ships on a planet and enough solar satelites if the population gets too big (around 40K) you will start running out of food.

Good luck playing.

[Guest]

I remember this game. I had "Overlord" for C64. I was always jealous of the better looking screenshots for Amiga on the back of the box. It was a fun game for the times. One of the last Commodore games we bought probably. I tried playing it again recently and it just seems weird and cumbersome now. I don't know how I ever played some of these games without a mouse.

[broomgrove]

I LOVE THIS GAME!!

Used to play it on my old Atari Falcon - yup I owned one of those beast machines :max: back in the grand old days of 'my Atari is better than your Amiga!' :titan:

Never managed to finish it though so it is great that I will get the chance to play it again.

[guesst]

Just wanted to chime in real quickly. I'm not a big fan o fthis game, but my interest in it is the rotating starmap and animated window. Both of these elements were borrowed-without-asking when Fred Ford and Paul Reich III made Star Control 1. Consequently I've just linked the two so that next time I'm hunting for where SC1 got those elements I can find it.

This seems like a good game, I just can not win even one level.

[Sebatianos]

Can't know for sure, but the moving planets are also present in Star Trek Rebell Universe... and the game was released some 2-3 years earlier.

[Pete Ellerby]

I have completed the first opponent and now my pc is asking me to put supremacy disk 1 into the drive...

Has anyone else had this problem and how do I solve it as I want to kick behind with the secont opponent.

Thanks

[Rogerwilco]

Hello, just found this slice of heaven a week or so ago....

Anyway, if anyone's interested, here's a link that has an illustrated manual on how this game works, along with a savegame editor/cheat

http://www.geocities.com/mikepsr/

[_r.u.s.s.]

thanks for the link

but if it's your site i suggest you to read through this stuff (http://www.w3.org/) before making another website :P

[Hydra]

Each planet has a population maximum:

Farm and Population
Type Farms Max.Pop. Cred Pop/Farm Crd/Pop Rel. % Crd/Farm Rel. %
Base 6 17505 4601 2918 0,263 131,4 767 130,6
Adv 6 17507 5602 2918 0,320 160,0 934 159,1
Mine 4 11743 2348 2936 0,200 100,0 587 100,0
Life 3 29015 5803 9672 0,200 100,0 1934 329,5
Desert 4 11757 2351 2939 0,200 100,0 588 100,1
No farms 0 239 76 0,318 159,0


Let the population total goto that maximum. It depends on the amount of foodships and type of planet.

[Suicide Boy]

An excellent game. "Your Will Be Done" always makes me chuckle; it's one of those badass-sounding phrases that's reminiscent of Duke Nukem, Army of Darkness, and other cult classic games/movies.

The Amiga version has better graphics and sound. Supremacy is from that brief period in gaming (1987 -1990) when the Amiga was all-around better than MS-DOS PCs. After 1990, the Amiga had better sound (unless you had a lot of money to blow on your PC) but inferior graphics, and by 1992/1993, they were almost evenly matched.

[Wicky]

I'm always to have for space conquering games, but... uhm before complaining I will just call it cumbersome.

[Dewfire]

I remember playing this game as a kid, it was named Overlord I think when it 1st came out. Must of changed it for some Copyright reasons, same as the Quest for Glory, I have Hero's Quest on my box :)

I remember the hardest guy I could never beat not matter what, and even the 2nd level guy was tough to crack. Still a fun game to play, and loved the concept.