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Milos
07-11-2004, 09:19 PM
Everyone knows how good are the lotr movies, and how good is music in them.

So I was wondering does anybody knows where to find good soundtracks from two towers and the return of the king.But not some crappy ones, I need the good ones. :help: :help: :help:

Eagle of Fire
07-11-2004, 11:01 PM
You can bet you can purchase a CD of the music of the LotR movie, so helping you get what you are asking is extremely illegal. Anyone trying to help you on this forum will get their post erased on sight.

And let's not even talk about copyright... Not the same thing for music than for abw games at all!

Milos
07-11-2004, 11:08 PM
I know that is not same for abandonware and for music, but I found on site that goes something (...lycos...)soundtracks for the first movie and site is big and seems that they are having no problems puting it for free download.

mouse31e
07-11-2004, 11:11 PM
There's plenty of lord of the rings soundtrack cds on ebay at the moment some for quite good prices (certainly much less than the price I paid in the shops when they first came out!).

They shouldn't be able to unless they have made some agreement with the copyright owners.

I can't see Time Warner giving up the chance to make a profit. Sorry, but it probably is illegal.

Milos
07-11-2004, 11:54 PM
Is MP3 illegal?

mouse31e
08-11-2004, 01:01 AM
That depends.

If it is released by the record company or copyright owner then it's legal, but most mp3s on the internet are illegal copies. Copyright law does not allow you to make any copies of any music, without the publisher's permission, unless it is for private, personal use.

I hate it but it is the law. :not_ok: :not_ok: :not_ok:

Eagle of Fire
08-11-2004, 04:27 AM
Exactly.

Puffin
08-11-2004, 06:06 AM
Well, I might be going a bit :ot: , but few weeks ago, the Icelandic police arrested few guys who were sharing a lot on oDC and DC++. And they closed down the icelandic hubs. So yeah, downloading mp3's is in most cases illegal <_< :(

I used to have the soundtracks from the first and second part of LOTR, but somebody stole it from me :ranting:

Eagle of Fire
08-11-2004, 06:11 AM
So yeah, downloading mp3's is in most cases illegal
As long as it is not a mp3 you ripped yourself from one of your own CD you already own and it's copyrighted, it's always illegal.

Funny to see that it takes an example like you talked about for people to realise it's against the law... :rolleyes:

mouse31e
08-11-2004, 08:22 AM
There was a court case in the UK about a month ago where an ISP were forced to hand over names and addresses of ten internet users suspected of sharing music through Kazaa and similar programs.

It's worrying cause it means you are no longer anonymous when you are online (if you ever were!). :not_ok:

Morrin
08-11-2004, 10:03 AM
The _mp3_ itself is not illegal if it doesn't inlcude anything illegal. :)

Puffin
08-11-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Gekko@Nov 8 2004, 11:03 AM
The _mp3_ itself is not illegal if it doesn't inlcude anything illegal. :)
Well, you are breaking the copyright. Which is illegal.

What I meant by "most cases", is that if the mp3 is put there by somebody else than the right-holder. If I hold the copyright of a song (or whatever), and I put it on the web myself, it's legal. But if I buy the LOTR soundtrack, and put it on the net (and unfortunately, I don't hold the copyright for that LOL ), then it is illegal ;)

Ioncannon
08-11-2004, 07:33 PM
mp3 is a type of compression, like wma, or ogg.

I don't like sharing files. Its a waste of time and bandwidth. I only dl from kazaa. Even then I am to lazy to anyway. Still RAA can't do much in Canada (from what i heard)

Rogue
08-11-2004, 07:45 PM
Can't you buy it on the street for couple bucks??? (like most of software and dvd)

Sean
08-11-2004, 09:19 PM
an MP3 is not illegal...

Commercial MP3's are illegal there are many free mp3's from underground artists and other orginizations...

Milos
08-11-2004, 09:34 PM
I cannot buy it on the street because my sheeting country is sucking up to european union so we can be in europe in 2065(random number).
So piracy is very punishable by law, and there are no dealers on the street. :wall:

Freakin' politicians. :ranting:

Guest
08-11-2004, 09:40 PM
So?

You can shop in Sarajevo. :D

Problem is that not many did lern to shop in Bosnia. :angry:

Milos
08-11-2004, 09:57 PM
I heard that some people from Belgrade that are receving stuff from satelite net are selling at Bosnia.But it's not like across the street, it's about few hundred kilometers.

Stroggy
09-11-2004, 03:03 PM
Are you people so poor, or just too miserly?

Just buy the damn CDs in a store like I did!
CD quality guaranteed!

FreeFreddy
09-11-2004, 03:16 PM
My nephew might still have this CD, hmm... :whistle:

Milos
09-11-2004, 04:18 PM
Actually we are very poor.Original game is third of our month sallary.

So you see how we are poor, and now they abandoned piracy, but I have a friend that is receving games and stuff over satelite internet and he gives me for free :D

Rogue
09-11-2004, 04:51 PM
So try to recieve pucking :blink: MP3 over satelite too. :bleh:

Stroggy,
their goverment made record of 4 wars (if we count thing that happend in SLO war) in less then 7-8 years. Add to that sanctions, NATO bombing and you'll get picture.

But there is an old frase in my country: 'they got what they were looking for'

FreeFreddy
09-11-2004, 05:05 PM
Or in Germany (translated): Who seeks that finds.

Yamcha
09-11-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Puffin@Nov 8 2004, 07:06 AM
Well, I might be going a bit :ot: , but few weeks ago, the Icelandic police arrested few guys who were sharing a lot on oDC and DC++. And they closed down the icelandic hubs. So yeah, downloading mp3's is in most cases illegal <_< :(

I used to have the soundtracks from the first and second part of LOTR, but somebody stole it from me :ranting:
Well in Greece the police caught an english man.He was 3 months in prison JUST FOR BUYING illegal copy of an album.As for the mp3 you can find someones on the official sites on the artist.some of them are 30 sec :not_ok: others are full and free for download :ok:

Puffin
09-11-2004, 06:19 PM
Yeah, and then you can sometimes find copies with annoying peeps every few seconds :blink:
But then they are usually legal.

Rogue
09-11-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Nov 9 2004, 06:05 PM
Or in Germany (translated): Who seeks that finds.
Kid Rock , Only God Knows Why:

You get what you put in,
And people get what they deserve.

Sebatianos
09-11-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 9 2004, 06:03 PM
Are you people so poor, or just too miserly?

Just buy the damn CDs in a store like I did!
CD quality guaranteed!
Well,...
You must understand a few things about buying the 'original' stuff:
- people spent their MONEY for more importaint things - things you need to live!
- there are some distribution problems;
- Piracy and the black market were treated (and still are) very differently from what you're used to;
- and: It's not illegal if you're not cought - attitude!!!

That was the way people were thinking and used of doing things (and somehow it actually worked) for decades. BTW what do you think abandonia downloadable's were at first? Do you think they were cracked by their owners just to say - hey, we won't sell this game any more, so we'll crack it for you, so you don't need the manual either?!?!
They were illegal at the time the game was still sold, that's why they're cracked, but now, that the game is abandonware, it really doesn't matter anymore!!!

Rogue
10-11-2004, 01:52 AM
And how that relates to LOTR CD?

Most people from the balkan likes idea of cheap (on the street, black market) software, movies, videos. That is one of the reason most of computer software never got translated in our language, because nobody did not pay retail price for it.

Stroggy
10-11-2004, 06:11 AM
Hey, If I found a store actually selling the old games I'd want, I'd buy them.
I recently bought Red Alert and serveral other old games while I could have just waited for them to be uploaded to the site.

I believe a cd is, according to economy, in the Secundary Needs sections: cultural necessities.

That means a TV, a cdplayer (+cd, ofcoarse)

Primary needs are: house, food and clothing.
If any of you are from Zimbabwe or the Darfur region I'll offer my humble apologies.

But if you have enough money to sit at your computer (secundary/tertiary need. tertiary needs are luxury items, computer is somewhere between both of them. Differs from country to country) and download illegal music or abandonware or the last Bush-mocking flash movie on a modem... then I assume you're not some hobbo who sits in the street with a cardboard plaque in front of him saying "cat got tongue, need money. Have mercy"

I just asked somebody on msn who is from Serbia.
He claims that, while a lot of cds are not available for the average consumer, recent big-titles (be they movie soundtracks or the latest album of some large-chested heroin-shooting popqueen) are available....

which is more than you can say about abandonware

Rogue
10-11-2004, 12:52 PM
Strogy,
it is diferent to get used software and to get blackmarket's pirate software.

We are talking about new stuff, like $5.00 for windows, office xp, macromedia (all tools), etc.

Not to mention about new games, movies, cds....

Stroggy
10-11-2004, 03:31 PM
yes.... your point is?

Eagle of Fire
10-11-2004, 04:00 PM
I think his point is quite clear. Why waste hundred of $ buying Windows XP if you can get it for 5$ at the corner of the street?

Sebatianos
10-11-2004, 04:02 PM
The point is:

SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T CARE FOR THE LAW OR FOR THE INTELECTUAL PROPERTY OF OTHERS (don't even care if someone is doing something they like - and makes a living of it - actually stealing from that person)!!!

Yamcha
10-11-2004, 04:13 PM
The other point is that sometimes you'll have to give 300$ for something other then Win XP.In Bulgaria the salary is about 200-300 $ a new game for PS2 is about 60$ a new game for PC is 50$ now you see why the pirate market is more developed into the poor countires.In Belgium where you have 3000euro salary you have no problem of giving 60 for a new game

Sebatianos
10-11-2004, 04:21 PM
Look, I know what you mean!
It's not like I have only legal stuff.
If it comes down to this, I ALSO HAVE ILLEGAL THINGS.
I do understand, I do use it, I do brake the law.
But I'm not looking for excuses!
I do it, that's that.
Marcedes Benz is also very expencive (not only in Bulgaria, or Serbia, or Slovenia, or Germany - for that matter) and you can buy stolen cars at low prices from some guy at the corner too.
Both is wrong, both is illegal, but with cars, people are a bit more realistic, because you know it's been stolen and someone is looking for it. With music, movies and software - it's not stolen - it's only copied illegaly!!!
But it is very much the same!!!

Rogue
10-11-2004, 04:46 PM
Good point Sebatianos!

I understand that software prices are too high, especially in some poor countries like my origin country, Bosnia.

But it is ironic that people in these ‘poor’ country have access to software (OS, business software and games) that here cost fortune and I don’t think is very cheap.

For example, macromedia suite (dreamweaver, homesite, fireworks, flash…) cost here over $1,000.00 while in Bosnia friend of mine got a copy for about $2.50 dollars.

I mostly pay, or somebody else pays for my stuff (company) that I use to develop, but if I had to pay it my self, I would not work or have programs which somebody can get for 10 bucks on the black market.

TheVoid
28-11-2004, 02:19 PM
Seen this has gone far off-topic, though starting an interesting one, I think it doesn't belong to "Your Music" anymore. Therefore, if you have something else to say about this, start a new one in the Blah Blah forum.

The Topic is closed, go in peace.


*amen* :angel: