Stroggy's Doodles

[Stroggy]

There are a few classes where my mind goes on stand-by
I note everything said but don't really pay attention.
My main mind wonders off into some dark and creepy place.
What I find there, I draw.

This usually happens during religious classes, or hebrew classes when we're (that is to say, the teacher) is discussing some overly sweet happy story.

This is what happened during Religious Studies whilemy teacher was droning on and on about what a great guy Abraham was

Religion (http://www.elacole.com/public/Strogannov/Relsmall.jpg)

Freud would have a fieldday with me

[aaberg]

Wow... You are really insane :w00t: .

Nice drawing though. I really like the stair-labyrinth place, gives me associations to classic nightmare themes. Nice job. :ok: ...more please...

:D

[Stroggy]

heh.
I make a lot of those.
I remember a year or so ago.
A teacher of mine was talking about how his mother was dying of cancer and so on and so on.
So I started drawing this Esher-like maze/waterfall
and he kept talking, and I kept drawing.

Eventually I had filled up 3/4 of a page with this huge... thing.

A few days later he picked up all the books to see if we had answered all the questions.
I had answered all questions and all pages were clean except that one page
He drew a HUGE '!?' beside that drawing.

I'll try and find it.... sadly i have no idea where that book is

I found another one
Its old and not at all that great.
Bridging The Gap (http://www.elacole.com/public/Strogannov/scan0003.jpg)

[Sebatianos]

:ok: I really liked the first one :kosta: , but the link to the other one doesn't work :help:

[Stroggy]

How odd
works fine for me and my friend... and its on the exact same ftp as the first one :blink:

[Sebatianos]

O.K. I guess 19th time is a charm.

I think your first one was better. I could not help but notice that you really like stairs! Trying to get up in the world (or chalenging everybody to try and reach your high standards).

Sigmund, eat your heart out! :max:

[Stroggy]

you, the first one orginated out of actual boredom.

Actually if Freud would be doing the analysis he'd say something about sex.
He always does.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 31 2004, 09:19 PM
Actually if Freud would be doing the analysis he'd say something about sex.
He always does.
Not always, just whan he's analyzing middle-class bored frigid women. But if you want it that way, no problem:

De stairz, dhey leed up, so dis meens you feel de need for a part of your body to rise up. Hmm, how very interesting. :whistle:

[Stroggy]

Has Freud ever made a theory that isn't connected to sex?

[Sebatianos]

Well, he's theories weren't really about sex, but if it weren't for him, we'd all blush here at the mere mentioning of the s word. He just basically said, that the urge is the main force that keeps you going (just look at the people - it's true for at least 80% of them), so you should not repres this feeling (like they did prior to his findings). So in fact he started a sexual revolution by saying that it's O.K. to have sexual urges. But later on he was too sure of this theory and excluded all other options, which was his biggest mistake.

So, have any more cool drawings?
I especially liked the reference to communism in the first one, the sickle looking like a part of a machinery. :ok: :ok: :ok:

[Stroggy]

Yes I know about the Uber Ich, the Ich and the Es.
I'm just saying the man went a bit too far.

But I do agree, he changed the society immensely.

Don't know if this will work, but try this image:
Image (http://tinypic.com/fa0t1)


I'd register at Photobucket.com
but due to works on the site one can only register between a certain timelimit.
I passed that timelimit by about 5 minutes.
i'll have to wait till tomorrow.

The Hammer and tooth Wheel are actually from a book i've been planning to write.
I've got the plotlines all worked out, now i just need to put it on paper.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 31 2004, 10:26 PM
The Hammer and tooth Wheel are actually from a book i've been planning to write.
I've got the plotlines all worked out, now i just need to put it on paper.
Not only does he draw cool stuff, but he's also a fellow writter! Maybe we should have a section on literature - the stuf people wrote themselves?

But back to the latest pisture, damn, the building on left (buy stuf) really reminds me of someone I know - I mean, the building has a face (the tilted window did the trick I guess)! :kosta:

[Sean]

Nice, do you always draw with pen? (only looked @ 1st imaged as im on 56k)

I suppose ill have to post some of my hand art as my computer stuff is being ignored. Oh well!

[Stroggy]

Heh, I wish.
The only stuff I've actually written down was for a modification for a game which probably won't ever be released.
Pity since it was quite good stuff,.
The game was set in an early medieval world, so I mirrored my writing to actual writing of the time: good/evil, not very friendly towards women.


The book, if I ever write it, will be quite a hefty read.
I already wrote the main story once, but wasn't entirely pleased with it (it lacked political depth)
It numbered about 500 A4 pages.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Magic@Oct 31 2004, 10:59 PM
Nice, do you always draw with pen? (only looked @ 1st imaged as im on 56k)

I suppose ill have to post some of my hand art as my computer stuff is being ignored. Oh well!
I used a simple blue 'bic'
http://horasnegras.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/bic.JPG

I prefer to write with a pen.
But to really get that depressing delapidate feel I prefer to use your average cheap discardable BIC.

I've also created some works using Paint and Photoshop.
Theya re going to be used on a site.
Sadly my friend, who owns the site, is currently a bit depressed, so he isn't updating it.
And thus I can't show you any of my new works I made using the computer

[Sean]

Ok,

I will be looking forward to
A) Your computer work
B) Peoples explanations for ignoring my computer work but commenting on yours!

Magic!

P.S
This post is probably a weird one as im in another of those funny moods!
Back to the funny farm i go!

[Tom Henrik]

Great work Strog. You really have a good eye for details. Keep it up, and become sane.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Nov 1 2004, 09:43 AM
and become sane.
What?
and deny myself the sweet pleasures of the natural opium of my brain?

Silence, fiend!

[Stroggy]

Well to cheer up my friend I converted two comics I made into a movie.
the pictures are still and there aren't any voices.
But there's pianomusic in it... played on my very own piano by... me.

first one is only 262 KB and the second one is 410 KB
If anyone is interested.

i'll probably add some voices once I've got the hang of it

[Sean]

Where do we find these?

[Stroggy]

Currently I've been having some problems finding a good place to store them... eversince my old FTP account got deleted.
I've backed up most files like signatures, pictures and avatars on photobucket. But I have no idea where to place all my other stuff like photoshop files and those two 'movies'

So currently you can't find them anywhere.

I could send it to you, the new version with my voice is 421 KB big

[Sebatianos]

MOVIES? Now you really got me interested!

[Stroggy]

basically just slides with music and voices.
Its like calling a puppetshow theater.

[Maikel]

I would recommend some perspective practices for your drawings. It would make them a whole lot better.

Even if it's ment to have an off perspective, You still should draw perspective lines so you can amplify it's ''offset''.

Anyway, good luck :)

[Stroggy]

My perspectives are odd because I want them to be odd.
give them some sort of nightmarish medieval perspective avant-la-lettre

[Sean]

Maybe when you have time you could draw and post a drawing in perspective?

[Stroggy]

sure, but due to a very annoying artteacher I had who forced perspective drawing into our pictures I've kinda grown a hetered towards real perspective drawing

[Maikel]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Nov 2 2004, 04:31 PM
My perspectives are odd because I want them to be odd.
give them some sort of nightmarish medieval perspective avant-la-lettre
Okay, well anyway , Still you can amplify the effect of weirdness with a good use of perspective.

depths will look deeper , and twists will look....twistier ;)


Concept art (http://www.conceptart.org)

Lot's of inspiration here.

[Sebatianos]

How deeply twisted is that?
Just go with what-ever feels right for you Strrog.
The best art was done by talent, not by learning. If you just learn a technique and apply it to all you wanna do, you just end up making the same thing only with different motives. Where's the inovation in that? Where's the soul in that? Where's the art in that?
Don't turn art in a mechanical process!

[Stroggy]

I finally found some screenshots of an adventuregame I was working on a few years ago (it had somehow ended up on my dad's computer)
It was called The Final Curtain. It was composed out of free stock images and images I photos I took myself. It was played from a first person perspective since:

1) drawn characters wouldn't fit the touched-up photographic backgrounds
2) I was too lazy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview.jpg

[Reup]

Looks good :ok:
Are you planning on finishing it?

[Stroggy]

Hah, no.
I got stuck creating a sound-puzzle in which you need to repair a musicbox tube so that it plays the correct tune. The sound puzzle is an integral part of the game and with it just failing miserably I just gave up on the game.

Perhaps I'll upload the original little tune I wrote for it (after all the trouble I went through i couldn't stand lsitening to it, but appearently I couldn't get myself to delete it)

[Reup]

Geh! I have the same sort of thing with a couple of .xm's I made 10 years ago. I've heard them so many times, I can't stand them anymore, but deleting them seems... wrong somehow...
Btw. what kind of engine did you use? Or was it more like AGS?

[Stroggy]

My brother was helping me program it from scratch, we had some very basic scripting ready.. it was nowhere near done.

[Stroggy]

Here is a somewhat older picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview3.jpg

I think the stronghold in the picture is actually in England.
EDIT: and I just noticed that, when i created it, I forgot to capitalize the S in Schloss.

[Stroggy]

The end of the first act in Rome, Italy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview4.jpg

[Tulac]

These are really great screenshots, it's a shame for this project to go to waste though...

[Stroggy]

Thanks.

Another reason I had to stop was that I was running out of stock pictures. The backgrounds were easy enough to get... but characters were another things.
They had to fit the role, I had to have atleast 2/3 of them on the picture and I had to extract them from the backgound (which isn't easy) so i was quickly running out of characters.

[Flop]

Yeah, it looks like it would have been a really good game, and I would definitely have played it. Too bad you don't plan on finishing it. :(

[Stroggy]

here is a picture of the Musicbox puzzle of doom.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview5.jpg

[Flop]

Where did you get all the pictures? I'm thinking of both the characters and the background. Did you find them on the internet or did you take them yourself?

[Stroggy]

As I said, some were stock images, others were taken by me.
I took pictures from inside the Hilton in Antwerp, The Rock (a keep in Antwerp near the river) and a lot of street shots of little streets in Antwerp, my goal was to put all these little streets together into a fictional little town situated near the German-Belgian border.
I'll see if I can find a picture of one of the streets.

The characters were quite difficult to obtain, most were carefully extracted from free stock pictures, for others I had to visit costume websites and hope they had some good examples (I think I got the priest from there) I don't think that is all too legal, but it was just a small free game I was designing, and if other free adventuregames could use sounds from Half Life (7days a skeptic) I figured I wasn't really doing any harm.

[Flop]

I have to say that I'm very impressed with those pictures, and in fact I think I might try to do a similar project, once I have some free time. I've always wanted to try to make a game, but have been discouraged by severy severe limitations on my drawing skills. :)

Also, that style of adventure game appeals immensely to me, as I'm of the opinion that many of the best adventure games ever were made by Legend, who used a similar style in most of their games (although mostly drawings instead of photos).

I have a friend who's a professional photographer. If I could convince him to help me out, I might be able to pull off a decent game. I already have a few basic plot ideas that I've toyed with in my head for years, but never really tried to seriously develop.

Thanks for that bit of encouragement. Hopefully something decent will come of it. :bye:

[Stroggy]

I always thought my style resembled that of Gabriel Knight II.
But I'm glad I convinced you to try your luck at it.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/MichaelZym/preview6.jpg
This is a retouch of a photo I took myself, it's of a famous street in Antwerp called the Cogels-Osylei, it is known for its spectacular jugendstil houses.

[Flop]

Yeah, I thought of GK2 as well, when I saw your pictures, but I'm assuming your game didn't include FMV. :D

Actually the houses on that street look a bit like the house my grandparents lived in, and they were from Antwerp. They died long ago, though, so my memory is a little hazy.

[Stroggy]

I was going to include small cinematics at the introduction of a new area later in the production... but I never got that far.